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Zenless Zone Zero ༺*|OT|*༻ Gotta Waifu 'Em All ♡(੭´͈ ᐜ `͈)੭♡

Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Looks like ZZZ was nominated for Famitsu Dengeki Game Awards 2024 in several categories. 👀

Online Games Category​

  • Genshin/COGNOSPHERE
  • Zenless Zone Zero/COGNOSPHERE
  • Final Fantasy XIV / Square Enix

Action​

  • Astro Robot/Sony Interactive Entertainment
  • Stellar Blade/Sony Interactive Entertainment
  • Zenless Zone Zero/COGNOSPHERE

Game App Category​

  • Gakuen Idolmaster/Bandai Namco Entertainment
  • Zenless Zone Zero/COGNOSPHERE
  • Pokémon Trading Card Game Pocket / Pokémon
Winners will be announced during a livestream on March 15.



 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
What a bunch of horrific DPS checks, timers and inflated to absurdity HP bars. GTFO with this bs HoYo!🖕

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Spyxos

Member
What a bunch of horrific DPS checks, timers and inflated to absurdity HP bars. GTFO with this bs HoYo!🖕

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Phew, I thought for a moment that they were completely overdoing it. I did get through it. But like the 2-3 weeks before, I notice every time how the HP grow extremely. Without Miayabi, the whole thing would be very exhausting.

Got Soldier Anby in Hard pity. And it is the first time that a limited Agent feels weak. Yanagi even not in optimal teams feels significantly stronger. Maybe I'm playing her wrong or she's completely dependent on Trigger, but she seems very weak to me.

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Looks like ZZZ was nominated for Famitsu Dengeki Game Awards 2024 in several categories. 👀

Online Games Category​

  • Genshin/COGNOSPHERE
  • Zenless Zone Zero/COGNOSPHERE
  • Final Fantasy XIV / Square Enix

Action​

  • Astro Robot/Sony Interactive Entertainment
  • Stellar Blade/Sony Interactive Entertainment
  • Zenless Zone Zero/COGNOSPHERE

Game App Category​

  • Gakuen Idolmaster/Bandai Namco Entertainment
  • Zenless Zone Zero/COGNOSPHERE
  • Pokémon Trading Card Game Pocket / Pokémon
Winners will be announced during a livestream on March 15.






ZZZ and Astrobot as action games... WuWa would make more sense.
 
Phew, I thought for a moment that they were completely overdoing it. I did get through it. But like the 2-3 weeks before, I notice every time how the HP grow extremely. Without Miayabi, the whole thing would be very exhausting.

Got Soldier Anby in Hard pity. And it is the first time that a limited Agent feels weak. Yanagi even not in optimal teams feels significantly stronger. Maybe I'm playing her wrong or she's completely dependent on Trigger, but she seems very weak to me.

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I don’t quite have my S0 Anby built up yet, she’s almost there. I will put her through the paces this weekend and see how she’s does. Haven’t touched the resets on deadly assaults or anything yet, just been busy.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Phew, I thought for a moment that they were completely overdoing it. I did get through it. But like the 2-3 weeks before, I notice every time how the HP grow extremely. Without Miayabi, the whole thing would be very exhausting.
They did. I got through it too, but it's a bunch of BS regardless.

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Got Soldier Anby in Hard pity. And it is the first time that a limited Agent feels weak. Yanagi even not in optimal teams feels significantly stronger. Maybe I'm playing her wrong or she's completely dependent on Trigger, but she seems very weak to me.
Do you have her disc set (x4) + Crit Rate one (x2)? The old ones don't work for her just like they didn't for Evelyn. She basically has two attacks, the regular one when she dashes a lot from all sides and attacks multiple enemies and the one when she throws double blade with AO, but if you don't have the energy, she can still do stuff with this attack. I've played her with the Qingyi and Seth team and even though she was great, I think she really needs to trigger disorders and for that you need a member with a different element on the team and with all 3 passives activated - I haven't used Yanagi or Alexandrina with her so idk how well these two work with her. She's not the best against enemies not weak to electric damage unlike Miyabi though, but she's also not a void hunter.
 

Spyxos

Member
They did. I got through it too, but it's a bunch of BS regardless.

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Do you have her disc set (x4) + Crit Rate one (x2)? The old ones don't work for her just like they didn't for Evelyn. She basically has two attacks, the regular one when she dashes a lot from all sides and attacks multiple enemies and the one when she throws double blade with AO, but if you don't have the energy, she can still do stuff with this attack. I've played her with the Qingyi and Seth team and even though she was great, I think she really needs to trigger disorders and for that you need a member with a different element on the team and with all 3 passives activated - I haven't used Yanagi or Alexandrina with her so idk how well these two work with her. She's not the best against enemies not weak to electric damage unlike Miyabi though, but she's also not a void hunter.
Yes, I am using the new disks. I probably need to practise more with her.
 

Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Not gonna lie, I think ZZZ has one of the best stamina systems out of all these big gachas.

I usually just do 3 minutes of ZZZ gameplay per day during my lunch break for the dailies, and only on weekends I play 2 to 5 hours to do weeklies, events, and new story content if there's any. So, I kind of always have 1500+ backup battery and my regular energy overcaps to 500+ due to stacking the daily coffee.

And now I just finished putting around a 3 hour session where I worked on building my S Anby (unlocked all her talents and upgraded her skills to level 10 with the energy I had stored), then did all the weeklies/bi-weeklies and also progressed through the new events.

So what I'm trying to say is that this game is very time friendly / you don't have to time commit to it all that much and probably one of the big reasons I won't be dropping it from my gacha rotation.
 
Not gonna lie, I think ZZZ has one of the best stamina systems out of all these big gachas.

I usually just do 3 minutes of ZZZ gameplay per day during my lunch break for the dailies, and only on weekends I play 2 to 5 hours to do weeklies, events, and new story content if there's any. So, I kind of always have 1500+ backup battery and my regular energy overcaps to 500+ due to stacking the daily coffee.

And now I just finished putting around a 3 hour session where I worked on building my S Anby (unlocked all her talents and upgraded her skills to level 10 with the energy I had stored), then did all the weeklies/bi-weeklies and also progressed through the new events.

So what I'm trying to say is that this game is very time friendly / you don't have to time commit to it all that much and probably one of the big reasons I won't be dropping it from my gacha rotation.


It should have autoplay of all the challenges you beat.
 
Not gonna lie, I think ZZZ has one of the best stamina systems out of all these big gachas.

I usually just do 3 minutes of ZZZ gameplay per day during my lunch break for the dailies, and only on weekends I play 2 to 5 hours to do weeklies, events, and new story content if there's any. So, I kind of always have 1500+ backup battery and my regular energy overcaps to 500+ due to stacking the daily coffee.

And now I just finished putting around a 3 hour session where I worked on building my S Anby (unlocked all her talents and upgraded her skills to level 10 with the energy I had stored), then did all the weeklies/bi-weeklies and also progressed through the new events.

So what I'm trying to say is that this game is very time friendly / you don't have to time commit to it all that much and probably one of the big reasons I won't be dropping it from my gacha rotation.

Ya the reserve energy being 2400 is ridiculously awesome. Way better then Wuwas 340 or whatever is it, and well… Genshin could never
 
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Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
It should have autoplay of all the challenges you beat.
I think they've been working on some sort of auto-battler for some time now, but I'm not sure when or if they'll add it to the main branch of the game.

Ya the reserve energy being 2400 is ridiculously awesome. Way better then Wuwas 340 or whatever is it, and well… Genshin could never
I'm loving it, man. I can go on a week long break where I only log in on my phone to do the dailies (scratchcard + drink coffee + open video store) since it takes a stupidly short time, and not miss out or get behind on anything.
 
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Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Not gonna lie, I think ZZZ has one of the best stamina systems out of all these big gachas.

I usually just do 3 minutes of ZZZ gameplay per day during my lunch break for the dailies, and only on weekends I play 2 to 5 hours to do weeklies, events, and new story content if there's any. So, I kind of always have 1500+ backup battery and my regular energy overcaps to 500+ due to stacking the daily coffee.

And now I just finished putting around a 3 hour session where I worked on building my S Anby (unlocked all her talents and upgraded her skills to level 10 with the energy I had stored), then did all the weeklies/bi-weeklies and also progressed through the new events.

So what I'm trying to say is that this game is very time friendly / you don't have to time commit to it all that much and probably one of the big reasons I won't be dropping it from my gacha rotation.
Energy storage is great, yes. It's regular 1000 + 2400 in storage which is very easily obtainable, and WuWa has 240+450 cap and it's really bad, considering how little lvl up mats you get for characters, weapons and echoes.
 
Deadly assault done
Here’s my teams and stuff

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Pompey actually took me a few tries until I booted solider 11 for Piper… Piper is better then S11 lol

Also bringer took a couple tries as well since I didn’t have Ceaser or Astra so Miyabi had to do all the heavy lifting on her own. Also my Sokaku is still level 50 and not that built up lol, Miyabi is just that good.

The electric boss was a compete joke with Silver Anby, she demolishes it.


I also cleared Shiyu Defense Critical Node, but there’s no point in even posting the images, it was a complete cake walk.
 

Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Looks like ZZZ was nominated for Famitsu Dengeki Game Awards 2024 in several categories. 👀

Online Games Category​

  • Genshin/COGNOSPHERE
  • Zenless Zone Zero/COGNOSPHERE
  • Final Fantasy XIV / Square Enix

Action​

  • Astro Robot/Sony Interactive Entertainment
  • Stellar Blade/Sony Interactive Entertainment
  • Zenless Zone Zero/COGNOSPHERE

Game App Category​

  • Gakuen Idolmaster/Bandai Namco Entertainment
  • Zenless Zone Zero/COGNOSPHERE
  • Pokémon Trading Card Game Pocket / Pokémon
Winners will be announced during a livestream on March 15.




The award show is live and ZZZ won in one of the categories it was nominated. Gonna make a separate thread with all the results.

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Spyxos

Member
Not gonna lie, I think ZZZ has one of the best stamina systems out of all these big gachas.

I usually just do 3 minutes of ZZZ gameplay per day during my lunch break for the dailies, and only on weekends I play 2 to 5 hours to do weeklies, events, and new story content if there's any. So, I kind of always have 1500+ backup battery and my regular energy overcaps to 500+ due to stacking the daily coffee.

And now I just finished putting around a 3 hour session where I worked on building my S Anby (unlocked all her talents and upgraded her skills to level 10 with the energy I had stored), then did all the weeklies/bi-weeklies and also progressed through the new events.

So what I'm trying to say is that this game is very time friendly / you don't have to time commit to it all that much and probably one of the big reasons I won't be dropping it from my gacha rotation.
That's exactly why I play it. You always have 5 minutes here and there and that's exactly where zzz fits in wonderfully. Wuwa was really good, but I just don't have that much time. To achieve anything worth mentioning.
 

Salz01

Member
Trigger seems to be more stun and less dps. At least to me. Anby 0 it’s lots of flash, and wish she was stronger, more like Miyabi. Will pull Trigger just to keep supporting giggle. Outside using her in boss fights, and having an active support character she seems useless.
 

Wonko_C

Member
Deadly assault done
Here’s my teams and stuff

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Pompey actually took me a few tries until I booted solider 11 for Piper… Piper is better then S11 lol

Also bringer took a couple tries as well since I didn’t have Ceaser or Astra so Miyabi had to do all the heavy lifting on her own. Also my Sokaku is still level 50 and not that built up lol, Miyabi is just that good.

The electric boss was a compete joke with Silver Anby, she demolishes it.


I also cleared Shiyu Defense Critical Node, but there’s no point in even posting the images, it was a complete cake walk.
I got 3 stars on two of them except Pompey (I can never get more than one star on Pompey), hopefully I can finish building a decent Burnice before the next DA comes out because it'll be impossible at this rate for me to reach 20000 points due to HP inflation. (I'm ok with just once for the achievement)
 
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I got 3 stars on two of them except Pompey (I can never get more than one star on Pompey), hopefully I can finish building a decent Burnice before the next DA comes out because it'll be impossible at this rate for me to reach 20000 points due to HP inflation. (I'm ok with just once for the achievement)

I think 7 stars is all you need for the poly rewards, so at least you got that.

But yes, Burnice is amazing. Disorder for days.
 

Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Fanservice aside, Trigger has some really great animations. Just look at this slow motion attack move where she partially disassembles her sniper into a handgun. She also seems to have these small thrusters which stabilizes her balance and helps her perform these dope moves she does. IMO HoYo did a banger job with her design, and def going all in on getting her, lol!

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Wonko_C

Member
Fanservice aside, Trigger has some really great animations. Just look at this slow motion attack move where she partially disassembles her sniper into a handgun. She also seems to have these small thrusters which stabilizes her balance and helps her perform these dope moves she does. IMO HoYo did a banger job with her design, and def going all in on getting her, lol!

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I'm getting Trigger even if there's nowhere to slot her for me at the moment. She's that cool.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
It's good to see at least 2 more people here who'll be pulling Trigger:messenger_relieved:

I loved her design right from the start since they announced her, hopefully I'll manage to get her - I've like 17 pulls left before I lose or win 50/50, so it's time to start saving for her launch.

Got 4 copies of Pulchra and I'm fine with that, will get the rest at some point, there's no rush.
 

Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Speaking of Trigger, I saw this Bilibili video edit of her on this gacha twitter account, and it made me even more excited to get her.

I just hope the RNG gods are merciful once her banner drops because I want to pull for Vivian as well (I think she's in the 1st half of the next patch). :lollipop_pensive:

 
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Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Btw, it looks like the S Anby & Trigger banner is doing very well in Japan (at least on console), with ZZZ currently ranked #1 on PSN by revenue. It even managed to beat out MH Wilds, which sits at number 2.


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Oh and I expect Vivian's banner to do bonkers numbers based on how well she has been received in the JP community. I mean these engagement numbers speak for themselves (for comparison, S Anby's drip marketing has gotten from 600k to 1.2M views per post).

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Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Finished the story and you know what? This time it didn't feel like they rushed things and character development is great. There's way more dialogue and character interactions (as well as flashbacks) than fights and stuff and I think it's a good trade off for a much better story and character development. But... the Hugo thing... I mean, he's going to be an agent in 1.7 so the end part of the story feels kinda anticlimactic as well as Lycaons words that he's dead for good. Vivian's fanboying over Bell is so adorable and funny, not the least cuz of how genuine it feels and looks, love that part of the story and Vivian is actually a lot more complex than I thought, so Hugo was right by saying that looks can be deceiving. You know, Hugo is not bad at all as a character, it's just that they really should've let him wear his hat and mask at all times cuz he looks way cooler like that than without, I still wouldn't pull him of course cuz I've plenty of Ice DMG dealers, but again, at least it'd make him look cooler. Anyway, the story is great in 1.6, I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's true.

And well...

She's M1 one now 🫲 :messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call: 🫱

I honestly didn't think that I'll win 50/50 this time considering my 50/50 luck is not great, but oh well, the next one sure as shit won't be a win so I hope that I at least get Trigger faster and with all the pulls this update yet to give me.

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Almost forgot to mention. Looks like MCs will for sure become agents at some point, I just hope they'll be older (like Rover in WuWa at least) and we won't end up with lame and boring console interactions like in 1.6's story for the rest of the game's life cuz... well, that would be an awful missed opportunity and a whole lot of nothing.
 
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Cao Cao

Member
Can you not do Deadly Assault without Signature weapon? I only use f2p W-Engines.
I used build from youtube minus signature W. This are my stats:

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Best I could do was 13800 Damage in the Electric one. Do I need to change substats on the discs or W-Signature needed?
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Can you not do Deadly Assault without Signature weapon? I only use f2p W-Engines.
I used build from youtube minus signature W. This are my stats:

Best I could do was 13800 Damage in the Electric one. Do I need to change substats on the discs or W-Signature needed?
You need a lot more Crit DMG (at least 140%) and 70% of Crit Rate at least (you'll get 10% as her passive and you need 80 minimum) to make her work. Here's my SAnby build:

You don't need her signature really, but you need 4 of her Drive Discs and depending on how much Crit Rate you have via sub stats, you can go for Crit DMG on 4th disc instead of Crit Rate. It's going to cost you a lot of energy, disc crafting / farming to get great main and sub stats. Pulchra don't have much Crit Rate (it's basically nothing in your case, despite 130% of Crit DMG she has), but I don't play as her (saving everything for Trigger) so Idk if it matters a lot or not in her case. As for W-Engines, there's not a lot of great F2P options for SAnby, you need a lot of Crit Rate and Crit DMG as I've said to make her work, but there's only one good F2P option when it comes to W-Engines and it's Marcato Desire, if you have it at max lvl (overcklock), good, use it, if not... I'm afraid you have to pay for BP (NECF) to get W-Engine for SAnby.

But honestly.... even if you make an otimal SAnby build, it's just not going to be enough cuz you also need Astra to boost damage as a support and... well frankly a great second DPS like Yanagi with her disorders. DA is one hell of a BS with inflated HP bars and SD as well after refresh a few days ago, so you need all you can get (great characters builds etc) to make it through and get all polys.
 
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Can you not do Deadly Assault without Signature weapon? I only use f2p W-Engines.
I used build from youtube minus signature W. This are my stats:
anby scales off crit damage, so while her attack and crit rate are more than fine, her crit damage is very very low, even a much lower crit rate, ~30-40, but a crit damage over 100% will give you much better results.
Also in deadly assault, it's not just damage that matters, there's also 5000 points that you can gather doing the performance bonus.
 

Pejo

Member
Man I love the way that Soldier Anby and Trigger combine their weapons during different moves of their kit. I think combining weapons is something I loved since I was a kid, and it still produces dopamine for me to this day.

Energy handgun that fits into the sniper rifle to amplify the output. Such a stupid but cool idea, and I live by the rule of cool™.
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Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
It even makes practical sense for close combat where a sniper rifle is useless. I wish she had an Ult where she shoots the gun around to hit multiple targets and then makes a final blow with the sniper shot. She plays real good with SAnby btw which is to be expected.
 

Aenima

Member
I'm getting Trigger even if there's nowhere to slot her for me at the moment. She's that cool.
Im pulling her just for that ass. I'll probably gona use her too cuz i like the concept of off fild stunners. I already gave up about the gameplay aspect of this game, Its turning into pay to win/ targeted to sweatlords. Hoyoverse is fucking scummy, not only they started making some W engines almost mandatory to certain characters they now started releasing duos in the same patch. (Characters that have they skillset to complement another character. Like Evelyn/Astra, S Amby Trigger) While these characters can still work in other teams they are much stronger when placed as a duo in the same team. All this while bloating the enemies health to make it harder to get max scores for the max rewards.

Only thing left for me in this trash is pulling for the characters looks, cuz ZZZ does have great characters with great animations.
 
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I wasn’t planning to pull for Trigger but I might now just because I really like Silver Anby. She’s fun to play, and if trigger makes her better…. So be it.
I’m not 100% but it does look like I’ll be skipping Vivian (is that her name?) and Hugo, so that’s at least like 50 days of saving and because I got Silver Anby so quickly , I still have massive savings more then enough to fully guarantee a character even with a lost 50/50
 

Aenima

Member
I wasn’t planning to pull for Trigger but I might now just because I really like Silver Anby. She’s fun to play, and if trigger makes her better…. So be it.
I’m not 100% but it does look like I’ll be skipping Vivian (is that her name?) and Hugo, so that’s at least like 50 days of saving and because I got Silver Anby so quickly , I still have massive savings more then enough to fully guarantee a character even with a lost 50/50
My only point of reference was a quick read at the skills and using them in story mode. I think in story mode they are at level 55 with lv 55 engines, and skills not maxed. Amby alone took her sweet time to kill the enemies, when was Amby + Trigger in the same team everething melted.

Im skipping Vivian cuz i dont want genshin design character in my ZZZ, so her looks mean nothing to me, but if you care about the meta, i bet shes gonna be very good. The 1st anomaly ether, and ether agents are suposed to be rare releases. Most likelly not gonna beat Miyabi but i bet she gonna power creep Zhu Yuan so hard the poor police girl gonna apply for an earlier retirement.
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Man I love the way that Soldier Anby and Trigger combine their weapons during different moves of their kit. I think combining weapons is something I loved since I was a kid, and it still produces dopamine for me to this day.

Energy handgun that fits into the sniper rifle to amplify the output. Such a stupid but cool idea, and I live by the rule of cool™.
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When my pants start getting too small, I also just unzip and wear them like that
 

Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
My only point of reference was a quick read at the skills and using them in story mode. I think in story mode they are at level 55 with lv 55 engines, and skills not maxed. Amby alone took her sweet time to kill the enemies, when was Amby + Trigger in the same team everething melted.

Im skipping Vivian cuz i dont want genshin design character in my ZZZ, so her looks mean nothing to me, but if you care about the meta, i bet shes gonna be very good. The 1st anomaly ether, and ether agents are suposed to be rare releases. Most likelly not gonna beat Miyabi but i bet she gonna power creep Zhu Yuan so hard the poor police girl gonna apply for an earlier retirement.
Vivian will remember that.

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Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
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Cannot wait to let Viv promote the store and make the rivers of dennies flow. I'm sure it won't be annoying in the slightest for any Random Play customer:messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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