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GAF, did I get raped?

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Alienous

Member
You're victim blaming pretty hard right now.

Very clearly let me state that it isn't my intention to blame any victim. I'm not placing any of the blame in this event on the OP. None. I hope that is understood.

I'm saying that debating the course of action in reporting a rape to the police shows how these events are, sometimes, not taken as seriously as they need to be by many of the involved parties. Again, I'm not blaming the OP for anything. It should be reported.
 

ishibear

is a goddamn bear
I'm so sorry that happened to you. You were indeed raped by that girl and I encourage you to seek help from law enforcement.

You did nothing wrong here. You told her no yet she still took advantage of you. She needs to be held accountable for this. Rape is wrong, no matter who does it, male or female, they need to be charged for it.
 
Very clearly let me state that it isn't my intention to blame any victim. I'm not placing any of the blame in this event on the OP. None. I hope that is understood.

I'm saying that debating the course of action in reporting a rape to the police shows how these events are, sometimes, not taken as seriously as they need to be by many of the involved parties. Again, I'm not blaming the OP for anything. It should be reported, ideally.

Well the fact that you implied someone isn't serious enough about it if they don't report was completely insulting.
 

Horse Detective

Why the long case?
This story made me contemplate how some of my former friends would have reacted if I were to tell them that something similar had happened to me. I can't be entirely sure, but I have a feeling that the reality would have been fairly disturbing.
 

Messi

Member
You said no, she did it anyway. Thats rape. Sorry this happened to you. But take the advice others are giving to you here.
 

Tenck

Member
What's troubling is the "I guess so" replies. Not even going to start with the "I can't be raped by women" one.

Sorry it happened to you OP.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
OP, it seems like you're struggling with a lot of the same feelings that are, unfortunately, common following sexual assaults (i.e. confusion and shame). You don't have to have anything figured out right now, but it might help you to find a support group with others who have similar experiences.

You are not responsible for her choices and don't let anyone convince you otherwise. Also, it's entirely up to you if you want to report it. You don't owe it to society or whatever, you have the right to pick the course of action that's best for you.
And even if you don't want to report it, you can still talk to your doctor about this (and you absolutely should, if you're having these initial feelings of confusion/shame. Have them give you a referral and have a follow up, if only just as a precaution to check if you're going to have any trauma from this. They are required to report rape statistics, but no personally identifying information, and are not required to inform the police themselves unless certain procedures are performed (rape kits, signs of battery, or if the individual reporting the rape is underage, mainly)

Basically, don't bottle it up inside. Find someone to talk to. And I don't know how much you plan to stay in contact with this girl, but she seems to realize she may have fucked up. If you're comfortable bringing it up with the girl, you might want to talk to her about it, as well, if you're not going to pursue legal action.
If only to make it clear that, yes, she did rape you, and yes, you are dealing with it, and no, you probably won't be pressing charges. But even if you don't press charges, you should make sure that she knows exactly what she did, by explaining it to her in blunt terms, 1 on 1. So that you both can bury this thing, maybe even make an arrangement to pay for counseling of some sort, and so that she can learn from her mistakes, even if she won't have to be punished for them.

It's up to you, though.
 

Alienous

Member
Well the fact that you implied someone isn't serious enough about it if they don't report was completely insulting.

I apologize to you, and the OP, if it was interpreted that way. Sincerely. That wasn't my intention.

I'm not saying the OP isn't serious about it, just that all acts of rape should be reported regardless of severity. But obviously it's the OP's call.

I really hope you understand it isn't my intention to insult anyone.
 

javac

Member
A lot of people don't want to report things like this and I understand why. People want to just live a normal, simple life and not have the burden of this on their shoulders. Reporting it is admitting that you were indeed raped for many, an acknowledgement of what happened. People just want to go asleep in times like this and act like it never happened, wishing they could turn back the clock and go back to being normal.

These are normal feelings and are shared with people who are raped. People can feel tainted, and violated in times like this. But that's normal. You need time and space and you most importantly need to come to terms with that fact that it wasn't your fault and you're still you. Nobody can take that away from you. You Maybe feel like people will look at you differently after this, and that's hard. Just stay strong and realise that it gets better you can and will continue to live a normal life. Don't blame yourself and don't think coming to terms with what happened is weak or whatever because a lot of people don't understand how it feels.
 

Seth C

Member
She wanted to have sex and you said no, she proceeds to have sex with you anyway.

Yeah it sounds like you were. She took advantage of the state you were in and did what she wanted regardless of you not consenting.


I'm sorry this happened to you.

While I agree with you his no sounded might have sounded more like "I don't want to do anything YOU might regret in the morning", in which case she thought he was only saying no for her sake, despite wanting it himself. She still shouldn't have done it but I dunno, I can understand why she wouldn't have thought he was saying "I don't want this". On the other hand I can understand why he would feel like he had been raped.
 
I apologize to you, and the OP, if it was interpreted that way. Sincerely. That wasn't my intention.

I'm not saying the OP isn't serious about it, just that all acts of rape should be reported regardless of severity. But obviously it's the OP's call.

I really hope you understand it isn't my intention to insult anyone.

I do now we cool. Just sayin' it takes a hell of a lot to even register what happened and because of how society treats victims, reporting it is a whole other can of worms.
 

Horse Detective

Why the long case?
I know we will regret this and you will probably regret this. But... why would this be a joke thread?

Going to play devil's advocate and say that there is a possibility that they don't think the OP should even be considering whether or not sex without consent is rape.
 

jayu26

Member
OP, if you can, you should try to find out if she has a history of this...without going full stalker obviously. People need to be warned about her.
 
Last night I was hanging out with a guy and a few drinks turned into a lot more. He turned on some music and started grinding on me then pulled me into the bedroom; I remember all of that. Then I started to pass out and sort of hunched over him as he kept grinding on me. He pushed me onto the bed and took my pants off. At this point I remember saying, "hey no, let's not do this drunk" and he said it was fine. He grabbed a prophylactic and put it on and attempted to have sex with me while I was on the bed. I was in and out of all of this; only remember flashes of what happened.

Woke up this morning and he apologized for what happened last night.

I feel really weird about this because I'm a girl who doesn't really care too much about getting laid or not. But when I ask a man not to have sex with me and he does, while I'm drunk at that, I feel...I don't know violated doesn't seem to encompass the feeling.

Flipped him and hers.

How does it read now?
 

Fusebox

Banned
"Let's not do this drunk" isn't exactly worded with any kind of finality. I would concede that if she was also drunk then it probably had even less meaning than it already did.
 
While I agree with you his no sounded might have sounded more like "I don't want to do anything YOU might regret in the morning", in which case she thought he was only saying no for her sake, despite wanting it himself. She still shouldn't have done it but I dunno, I can understand why she wouldn't have thought he was saying "I don't want this". On the other hand I can understand why he would feel like he had been raped.

Sounds like it, OP wanted to have sex with her but not in his current state. He probably didn't expected her to do it anyway and probably didn't expected to feel so bad about it.
 

TrueGrime

Member
That's shitty. Yes, that is counted as rape. You said no. I know you mentioned protection but getting tested might not be a bad idea.
 

F0rneus

Tears in the rain
Wow, what a twisted situation. Jeez dude, I am sorry for what happened. This is nothing to laugh about. This IS rape.
 
"Let's not do this drunk" isn't exactly worded with any kind of finality. I would concede that if she was also drunk then it probably had even less meaning than it already did.

He really shouldn't have to say anything. A comatose person is not an engaged and active consenting lover.
 

someday

Banned
Why did you not want to have sex with her? I don't think I could ever be raped by a female since I wouldn't be in an intimate setting with someone that I didn't want to have set with
This is such a terrible post. Two sentences of ignorance.
Thanks, people. I'm not considering any legal action because I'm still trying to come to terms with what happened. I know I shouldn't blame myself but it's hard not to when I take responsibility for my actions so much. I can't help but think that if I didn't get that drunk, this wouldn't have happened.

Because I don't like having drunken sex.
You are in no way responsible for her actions. You got drunk, but under no circumstances ever does this give anyone the authority to have sex with you against your will.


Why should a person drink to the point of not be able to get off the bed?

I'm not putting blame on the op, I'm just asking a general question. As I said in my previous post, report the girl.
You are putting blame on the op by asking that question here and now. You are insinuating that the op's actions (getting drunk) are to blame for what happened.
 

Reule

Member
I'm afraid you were, I'm very sorry. When you have a chance to collect yourself, I'd report it as soon as possible. No one should be taken advantage of.

A lot of people don't want to report things like this and I understand why. People want to just live a normal, simple life and not have the burden of this on their shoulders. Reporting it is admitting that you were indeed raped for many, an acknowledgement of what happened. People just want to go asleep in times like this and act like it never happened, wishing they could turn back the clock and go back to being normal.

These are normal feelings and are shared with people who are raped. People can feel tainted, and violated in times like this. But that's normal. You need time and space and you most importantly need to come to terms with that fact that it wasn't your fault and you're still you. Nobody can take that away from you. You Maybe feel like people will look at you differently after this, and that's hard. Just stay strong and realise that it gets better you can and will continue to live a normal life. Don't blame yourself and don't think coming to terms with what happened is weak or whatever because a lot of people don't understand how it feels.
Good post.
 

Weiss

Banned
But was she drunk too?

Does it matter? Should you not be charged if you kill someone while driving drunk?

OP, I am terribly, terribly sorry for you. This never should have happened, and it absolutely isn't, in no way shape or form, is your fault. If you think you can do it, please report it to the police, and perhaps see a doctor to deal with how you're feeling.
 

Wazzy

Banned
"Let's not do this drunk" isn't exactly worded with any kind of finality. I would concede that if she was also drunk then it probably had even less meaning than it already did.

When someone says no like that AND is already passed out, you stop or else it's rape. There's no gray area here.
 

slit

Member
"Let's not do this drunk" isn't exactly worded with any kind of finality. I would concede that if she was also drunk then it probably had even less meaning than it already did.

So what about him being unconscious? No finality there?
 
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