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[Boke1879]

Yea, when I read that the first time I just shook my head.

How about plug and play.

I honestly don't know why they can't allow for older sticks to just work but part of me believes it's just Mad Catz just trying to sell PS4 sticks

 

[ZarKryn7]

I don't know why people only blame Sony for this. Like most people said, each party has their own fault on this.

And also, are people really concerned about SFV? Sony is only producing it. Capcom is developing it, not other ocean. *facepalm* my god. You people...

 

[dmr87]

I don't know why people only blame Sony for this. Like most people said, each party has their own fault on this.

And also, are people really concerned about SFV? Sony is only producing it. Capcom is developing it, not other ocean. *facepalm* my god. You people...

All three parties are to blame, as mentioned several times. And personally I'm not worried about SFV.

 

[Kriken]

Good job Sony, you cheaped out on THE tournament standard edition by hiring Other Ocean to port it. You reap what you sow

 

[Passive Assassin]

glad i didn't buy a ps4 stick for evo. another time hori ps4 vlx!

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

How do you figure this? Why would the mod community have anything to do with sf5 coming to PC?

It doesn't take much to figure out where Capcom got the idea for the alternate costumes in the SFIV games from, generally speaking. Some of them are directly based on alt outfits and ideas from the mod community.

It's a pool of inspiration for them, and they'd be dumb to cut off the well, so to speak.

 

[CountBlack]

glad i didn't buy a ps4 stick for evo. another time hori ps4 vlx!

Me too.. I was on that madcatz site about to push the button

 

[jediyoshi]

It doesn't take much to figure out where Capcom got the idea for the alternate costumes in the SFIV games from, generally speaking. Some of them are directly based on alt outfits and ideas from the mod community.

MODS INVENTED THE ALTERNATIVE COSTUME
-GAF 2015

 

[TheSeks]

I honestly don't know why they can't allow for older sticks to just work but part of me believes it's just Mad Catz just trying to sell PS4 sticks

It's not. It's Sony locking their hardware down due to that USB service dongle "hack" on the PS3.

 

[vg260]

I honestly don't know why they can't allow for older sticks to just work but part of me believes it's just Mad Catz just trying to sell PS4 sticks

That is all on Sony. They lock out USB controllers as a security precaution. It's been explained by the Lab Zero guys here.

 

[synce]

Despite all this I bet they made a huge profit off the PS4 version already, so I don't know if Capcom's exactly hurting. It is embarrassing though

 

[MasterCheeze]

As long as the stream setup has all of the costume DLC I'll be happy.

 

[vg260]

This once again highlights the need for a reasonable digital refund policy.

 

[reynal1287]

I don't know why people only blame Sony for this. Like most people said, each party has their own fault on this.

And also, are people really concerned about SFV? Sony is only producing it. Capcom is developing it, not other ocean. *facepalm* my god. You people...

Capcom and Sony had to make sure the port was in excellent condition. I'm sure sf5 will be fine, but this mess makes people worry.

 

[Skilletor]

It doesn't take much to figure out where Capcom got the idea for the alternate costumes in the SFIV games from, generally speaking. Some of them are directly based on alt outfits and ideas from the mod community.

It's a pool of inspiration for them, and they'd be dumb to cut off the well, so to speak.

Lol. That's a huge stretch. Huge.

 

[Big Green Anus]

I'm happy that Capcom and Evo did the right thing.

So disappointed with Sony with this situation and can't have give people refunds for the "ultimate version" of the damn game!!

 

[Boke1879]

That is all on Sony. They lock out USB controllers as a security precaution. It's been explained by the Lab Zero guys here.

Do PS4 made sticks work fine?

 

[Condom]

This once again highlights the need for a reasonable digital refund policy.

Yup. Should be illegal to not be able to return bought products, I don't see how it can't be done on closed systems like the PS4/Xbone.

 

[Bgamer90]

LOL

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

Yup. Should be illegal to not be able to return bought products, I don't see how it can't be done on closed systems like the PS4/Xbone.

You can get refunds on Xbox One. Easily. That's despite the Ts & Cs saying no refunds.

 

[Truespeed]

This is Capcom's IP and they should have been responsible for the quality control. To do what they did just shows how much they care about their reputation.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

I don't know why people only blame Sony for this. Like most people said, each party has their own fault on this.

And also, are people really concerned about SFV? Sony is only producing it. Capcom is developing it, not other ocean. *facepalm* my god. You people...

People are doing the same with 343 and Halo 5. Halo 4 launched without issues. MCC was outsourced, just like this. Hence, the issues.

 

[Agent X]

Iron Galaxy did Borderlands Vita and it was pretty bad

That might be the case (from what I've heard--I personally haven't tried the Vita version), but there's a big difference between attempting to shoehorn a game like Borderlands 2 onto a less powerful handheld with lots of restrictions, and (supposedly) porting a game like USF4 onto a much more powerful new console with (theoretically) no shortcomings to hold it back.

Iron Galaxy does have fighting game experience. They probably would've been a much better choice to handle USF4. As far as BL2 goes, they probably put up a good effort, considering the constraints of the Vita hardware.

On the other hand, Other Ocean completely dropped the ball here. USF4 should've been a slam dunk. I don't think anyone would've predicted it would turn out so badly. That's probably why tournament organizers were so confident that the PS4 version would be the "definitive" version, before they saw the final product and were (unfortunately) proven wrong.

Of course, Sony and Capcom should have also ensured that it would live up to the hype. It's shocking that they would even consider releasing it in such shoddy condition, with so many flagrant flaws. I hope they've learned their lessons now.

 

[Alaskanbullworm]

Oh god I can hear Olmec saying that in my head

 

[vulva]

Me too.. I was on that madcatz site about to push the button

qq

 

[CO_Andy]

USF4 on PS4 is as much a throwaway game as Omega Mode.

The game probably would of ended up near the release of SF5 had the dev been given more time.

 

[Tripon]

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Such a nice looking stick.

 

[BleedOrange]

There seems to be a lot of short term thinking with these remastered ports.

Hire the lowest bidder, track record be damned.

Perhaps also there is much ignorance and apathy towards technical competence at the executive decision making level. You'd think a company like Sony would be smart enough to hire wise long term decision makers in an arm as critical to its long term success as PlayStation.

From my experience only one studio has demonstrated flawless technical prowess to port one generation up. That studio is Hexadrive. Either them, or get the original developers on board.

I can't stand sloppy or dodgy deals to the least deserving.

Quoted for posterity. There is so much truth in this statement. Software development is so hard, and farming it out to the lowest bidder means getting the lowest tier talent available. It's a slap in the face to every one of us developers that attempts to improve their technical skills.

I have this same gripe with any software company that doesn't do technical interviews.

 

[Ostinatto]

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You can play USFIV on PC with that right?

 

[Edzi]

A comparison of the input lag across versions of the game was posted in the other thread. I figured some people here might be interested in seeing it, so hopefully gilley doesn't mind me reposting it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvUau8jXFCs

PS4 TE2 #1 5.816
PS4 TE2 #2 6.383
PS4 TE2 #3 6.445
PS4 DS4 #1 5.766
PS4 DS4 #2 6.199
PS4 DS4 #3 6.216
PS4+PS3 TE 7.020
360 Madcatz Silent 3.212
360 Pad 3.574
PS3 TE 5.533
PS3 DS3 5.162
PS3 Hitbox 5.287

 

[zeroroute]

Thank goodness! Shame Hexadrive is busy with FF15, but SE might have let them "take a break" and port this.

 

[def sim]

You can play USFIV on PC with that right?

I bet he already had a stick that could do that.

 

[Duxxy3]

A comparison of the input lag across versions of the game was posted in the other thread. I figured some people here might be interested in seeing it, so hopefully gilley doesn't mind me reposting it:

Those numbers alone are enough reason to not use anything other than the 360 version. I don't expect the PS4 version to ever come close.

 

[Justinh]

What if they fix the game before evo?

like others have said, it won't be. But even if by some miracle, it is..

That is correct. No more changes.

Well of course not. Even if it becomes the definitive edition like it was supposed to be, you can't just announce a week before EVO that you're switching to PS4.

Yeah, good point. At least now they won't be under any pressure to release fixes quickly and hopefully they will take their time, however long it takes to do whatever it is they need to do.

 

[supahkiwi]

Rip ps4 USFIV

 

[klee123]

Sony deserves it for cheapening out.

They reap what they sow.

 

[Hitokiri03]

A comparison of the input lag across versions of the game was posted in the other thread. I figured some people here might be interested in seeing it, so hopefully gilley doesn't mind me reposting it:

wow

Gio Corsi
A few of you hardcore Street Fighters out there said that there was minor input lag in the controls of Ultra Street Fighter IV for PS3. Well, don’t worry: We’ve eliminated it to make the PS4 edition the ultimate version on any platform!

 

[erpg]

Sony 3rd Party partnerships keeping the Xbox 360 relevant.

 

[skLaFarebear]

like others have said, it won't be. But even if by some miracle, it is..

Well of course not. Even if it becomes the definitive edition like it was supposed to be, you can't just announce a week before EVO that you're switching to PS4.

 

[vulva]

You can play USFIV on PC with that right?

It does but I already have 2 sticks I use regularly. So this one is just kinda there now.

 

[sturgboski]

See kids. This is what happens when you take the lowest contract bid in order to save money and take advantage of your consumers. You hire a firm that has done nothing but elevate High Voltage Software to Ready at Dawn level in comparison. You then lose credit with the consumers and fight gaming arena by having your version of the game removed from all the tournaments AFTER going to great lengths to make it the exclusive version of said tournaments.

Good job Sony, Third Party group at Sony and Capcom for not giving a shit. What a great week for Sony, you have this failure and then you have Andrew House going "Vita is dead" and having PR trying to lie to the fanbase.

 

[PhatSaqs]

See kids. This is what happens when you take the lowest contract bid in order to save money and take advantage of your consumers. You hire a firm that has done nothing but elevate High Voltage Software to Ready at Dawn level in comparison. You then lose credit with the consumers and fight gaming arena by having your version of the game removed from all the tournaments AFTER going to great lengths to make it the exclusive version of said tournaments.

Good job Sony, Third Party group at Sony and Capcom for not giving a shit. What a great week for Sony, you have this failure and then you have Andrew House going "Vita is dead" and having PR trying to lie to the fanbase.

This is great lol.

 

[JrBaconCheeseburger]

I regret selling my xbox 360 and USF4.

Fuck this PS4 broken BS.

Spoiler

Man that did not go as planned.

 

[BkMogul]

Please, I need to know how this ends!

 

[Renekton]

I wonder what platform did pros like Xian and Daigo train on... X360?

 

[AgentOtaku]

HOLY


.....SHIT

 

[cackhyena]

I wonder what platform did pros like Xian and Daigo train on... X360?

Pretty sure most still run on 360. PC is not where the competition is at. Not in comparison.

 

[Skilletor]

I wonder what platform did pros like Xian and Daigo train on... X360?

Daigo plays in arcades a lot.

 

[Final Verdict]

I haven't been keeping up with this. Is the port that bad? And is it performance problems, or just buggy?

 

[GoonerTRON]

I don't know why people only blame Sony for this. Like most people said, each party has their own fault on this.

And also, are people really concerned about SFV? Sony is only producing it. Capcom is developing it, not other ocean. *facepalm* my god. You people...

Street Fighter may as well be first party. If they gave a shit about it they would of tested it properly.