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Greg Miller to stream MGSV starting August 23rd; thru Mission 5, intro after release
- Thread starter Love Deterrence
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Of course I knew that and that's why I included the face.
Love Deterrence
Member
Facebook and Twitter, I get. But there are people whining that things may be spoiled on gaming boards like 💁
Spoiler culture has a whole has become really pathetic, if a game is good, it's good. Hell had people say to me before "Why did you read Game Of Thrones, doesn't that spoil the TV Show?" I can still know certain aspects of a story and still enjoy the fuck out of it in the moment. I can go back to a game or movie that might have been spoiled to me in the past, come back it and still enjoy it for what it is.
Stay off the internet if your that scared.
Stay off the internet if your that scared.
CambriaRising
Member
Good for you.
But you don't get to decide whether someone else should care about being spoiled.
AmuroChan
Member
Right on. This is almost as bad as the Trigger warning/safe space culture.
God forbid people want to go into a game in their favorite series almost completely blind. Again it's not as simple as saying "dont watch it" I have no intent on watching this but people are dicks.
I use twitter, facebook, youtube, hell even twitch. All places I'm exposed to spoilers. This will literally be the talk of the town with Greg and his massive audience.
Hell I don't even read reviews anymore because they have a knack for spoiling story elements. They did it with Arkham Knight
samuraidino
Member
The problem isnt about watching it. Its about the assholes who'll watch it and then do their best to spoil the game for others based on the footage they've seen.
Its an incredibly poor and short sighted decision from Greg to do something like this.
Srey Plaughtered
Member
Not everyone shares the same mindset mate. Most of us will simply not watch or read anything about this LP, but many people(not me) have avoided trailers and gameplay footages for months. If this LP ends up putting any spoilers in the wild, it'll waste all their effort.
I get that. A lot of us don't want to be spoiled any more than necessary (trailers and gameplay vids). I've had to resort to twitter mute filters and staying clear of threads on GAF. So many of us are anticipating playing this ourselves. I can't watch someone else play this close to release.
AmuroChan
Member
That's Greg's livelihood right now. I don't think he needs us to tell him how to run his business. Literally every Twitch and YouTube personality would've jumped through fire for this opportunity. I guarantee this will increase his subscribers. PewDiePie didn't get 37 million subscribers because he was scared of spoiling games for people.
Nightengale
Member
Greg Miller has a HUGE audience of diehard fanbase.
This will only help to sell more copies of MGSV.
This will only help to sell more copies of MGSV.
AmuroChan
Member
It's the same argument for the trigger warning/safe space culture. If you are offended by the Holocaust and have spent your lifetime avoiding reading anything about it, should the media simply stop writing about it and should the event be removed from the history books entirely just so your efforts to avoiding it aren't "wasted"?
Greg is also a media personality and a reviewer for this game. He also claims to be a HUGE fan of this series. I would expect someone who says that to at least wait until launch before he uploads his gameplay. I'm just not a fan of this.
And don't worry. I'm pissed at Konami as well.
swearing-circle
Member
Very good point.
Graphics Horse
Member
A Hero's Way confirmed!
AmuroChan
Member
I'm a huge fan of the series. I would've done this. This isn't Greg doing it for no reason. This is a job from Konami. He just started his business. This is a great opportunity for KF and I'm happy they got this exclusive. It's easy for outsiders to say don't do this when their livelihood isn't dependent on streaming content.
So you'd be fine with going into a movie like The Sixth Sense and as you're in line, some random dickhead walks up to you and says "Hey man, Bruce Willis was dead the whole time." and walks away?
Exploratory
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Where can you watch his let's play?
Then we just have to agree to disagree.
Srey Plaughtered
Member
Uh. That's taking it a bit too extreme and I fail to see the connection since MGSV will release by 9/1 and after that spoilers are free to be in the wild. After that it's on the people to avoid spoilers for themselves, and Greg or anyone else is free to post all the spoilers that they wish. It's not about being offended, but the unwritten honor system where you honor the game and it's fans by not spoiling. That's why we have a separate spoiler thread so you know where not to go.
Mind you I've nothing against Greg, dude is very cool. He'd be even more cooler for me if he'd post his LP on release date.
On the Kinda Funny Games YT page. He's not that bad at playing it really. I just didnt like his approach. I'm sure he was just messing around just for the vid.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Did you even read what you quoted? Because if so that analogy makes no sense.
AmuroChan
Member
I wouldn't like it, but at the same time I can't tell him he's not allowed to speak. He has the right to say whatever he wants as much as I do. If he wants to be an ass, that's his right.
No. Good thing he's only playing the first 5 missions of the game, isn't forcing you to watch the video and isn't going to be revealing ending spoilers anyway.
Please tell me which site Greg is reviewing MGS for.
Edit: HOLY SHIT THIS THREAD IS FULL OF CRAZY.
Greg, you're fine. You do you. I'm out.
samuraidino
Member
Im saying its short sighted because the whole idea behind it is "This will get me subscribers/this is a good thing for me" without really taking into account the effects of what pre-release footage and potential spoilers will cause to the fanbase of a series he himself loves.
It comes across as selfish.
Rei no Otaku
Member
I would. A story is more than a twist with no context.
AmuroChan
Member
I failed to understand this "honor system" when it's Konami who asked Greg to do this. I would agree with you if there was actually some unlawfulness to it, like streaming a game that was leaked or obtaining a game before street date. This is a marketing move by the publisher of the game and they employed a popular online personality to stream the game for them. Sorry, I don't see where I can say this is wrong when the IP owner consented to this. It's their game and they can choose to market it however they want.
He's reviewing it on Kindafunnygames.
Ninja Scooter
Member
It's not his job to protect sensitive people from spoilers. You don't have to watch this. And if someone does, and then in turn uses that information to troll someone and spoil parts of the game for them, that's on them, not him.
AmuroChan
Member
Then so be it. I'm a Patreon supporter of theirs and livelong MGS fan. I have no problems with this.
Jesus Christ man.
When did Kinda Funny start doing reviews?
Are they on metacritic?
Greg's pretty open about the fact that he doesn't review games anymore. They talk about games.
AmuroChan
Member
They're not on metacritic because they don't do written reviews. It's more of a verbal impression of the game. They also don't do scores.
Nightengale
Member
They do reviews, but it's basically a conversational full-game impressions. They're also pretty selective, so they only do stuff that interest them to spend 30 minutes talking about. No scores too.
Omega Kirby
Member
Why? What is his goal? Does he want to spoil the game for others? Unless your 100% certain your'e not going to get the game.
Spoilers never do, I had 3 major GoT plotpoints spoiled in a fucking WWE video on youtube, why? Because 2 dudes got in an argument and 1 had a Joffrey avatar, which then got pushed up to top comment.
Welp, I'll eat crow. That's what I get for getting rid of twitter.
Still though, their reviews are essentially just long-form what they've always done....discuss the games and not give it a score.
Srey Plaughtered
Member
I myself blame Konami for the whole thing. That's why I said I won't watch it myself and that I've nothing against Greg for this. I'm only thinking about people who may end up getting spoiled by it and that's all. I'm not saying it's wrong, just not right either even if the IP holder is the one behind it.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Considering how big Let's Plays have become, I reckon a shit load of people just like to watch games being played and don't care about spoilers. This is for them. It doesn't have to be for you. You have the option of not watching it.
Srey Plaughtered
Member
His goal is definitely not to spoil it for us but it's the people on the internet who don't care about others getting spoiled will.
He probably won't even show that much story stuff, just straight gameplay of missions. Plus he isn't going too deep. I think it'll be fine.
Trigonometrize.
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Discourse over important historical events/contemporary social problems have nothing to do with pre-release spoiler circuses. Nothing.