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The Last Guardian review embargo lifts on December 5th at 7am PST/10am EST/16.00 CET

Mr. Hyde

Member
But the game seems all about the gameplay. It isn't a Virginia or something

It may be story-driven but it certainly doesn't look like story over gameplay

That's an interesting argument. I still consider Shadow of the Colossus one of my favorite video game stories despite being told in such a minimal way. I wonder how The Last Guardian will be compared to that.
 
Just so you guys know I'm not making anything up about the file size:

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Haines

Banned
Is there any impressions possibly spoiler free.

Kind of need to know if this game is an 80 or a 100.

Makes a big difference to my preorder staying or not.
 
The Last Guardian |OT| 人喰いの大鷲トリコ

Yeah, this is the one!
Super clean and simple.

Why is it surprising? The mechanics alone seem like they can offer more variety than anything in Ico or SOTC ever could

I was thinking it'd be quite short because we haven't seen too much of the game (which is good!).

Thinking about Ico though, that's considered short but it still took me about 8-10 hours first playthrough.
If this is longer than that by default then as an SP only game that's a great playtime for me.
 
Is there any impressions possibly spoiler free.

Kind of need to know if this game is an 80 or a 100.

Makes a big difference to my preorder staying or not.

There's a guy who seems legit (reviewer for a Canadian paper) that says it is now his favourite game of all time.

Technical issues, but classic Ueda. If you liked SOTC and ICO, it's a safe bet.
 
Is there any impressions possibly spoiler free.

Kind of need to know if this game is an 80 or a 100.

Makes a big difference to my preorder staying or not.

"Ico was my favorite game ever. Was."

and

"It's now my all-time favorite game."

No big deal.
 
Based on what I have seen of this game so far. I don't know what you mean by variety though?
Trico seems like it'll allow for more versatile gameplay than previous games

Platforming/Climbing on and off Trico
Chases/Sneaking
Co-operative puzzles
Trico as your personal weapon/protector
Dealing with or manipulating Trico's behavior
Trico and similar creatures as an enemy
Special item-specific abilities like the shield
Variations on any of that through gameplay scenarios and narrative
 

Bronetta

Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
The Last Guardian seems like a combination of ICO + Shadow of the Colossus. The teamwork and puzzle solving of Ico combined with the dynamic climbing and traversal of SotC.

I imagine TLG will have some epic setpieces where you're trying to climb around and hold onto Trico while it climbs and platforms around trying to evade either an environmental threat or a bigger enemy.
 

Haines

Banned
There's a guy who seems legit (reviewer for a Canadian paper) that says it is now his favourite game of all time.

Technical issues, but classic Ueda. If you liked SOTC and ICO, it's a safe bet.

Wish I could say I played them.

I wasn't in the gaming bubble so they looked super cool to me but I thought it was just me and they would be bad do I never bothered.

Really kicking myself but now they have aged do much.

Those are certainly glowing impressions.
 

Salaadin

Member
More impressions from an early buyer:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/952634-the-last-guardian/74630690?page=1#18

Net net for day 1 and several hours of play. Overall very positive, suspect range of scores from critics from 7.5 to 9.5. Probably averaging 8.7.

As a fan and long time player of SOTC/ICO, I can easily give this a 8.5-9 based on today's play. Might go a little higher probably not lower, but we will see.

What I can say for sure is that anyone who was a SOTC/ICO fan, it's a definite D1 buy.
 
Q&A from that thread
Is it open exploring like SOtC or more linear like ICO?
Answer:
Mix of both, some open areas, but progression is largely linear

Does the world connect and allow backtracking like MetroidVania?
Answer:
So far mostly straight ahead, not much of a metroidvania vibe

Are the controls responsive (character movement and interaction)?
Answer:
Yea, pretty much an evolution of Sotc

How does the AI and Trico/Boy interaction play in practice, is it intuitive and fluid or is it frustrating?
Answer:
Way better than I expected, going into it knowing it's NPC AI, my expectations were grounded so it over delivered

World textures and general world art, does it live up to expectations?
Answer:
The feel is there, super detailed and Trico is nothing short of a marvel. Graphics are about on par with last of us so late PS3 early PS4

Is there a clear PS4 Pro benefit?
Answer:
None so far

Is combat a part of the game to the degree of Ico or less or more?
Answer:
It's more about using environmental advantages and Trico as direct damage dealer combat is part of the puzzle, it's a variable and more like Ico than sotc so far

Puzzles, what is the general feel? Types?
Answer:
Mostly environmental with a dash of tactical Trico combat

General sense of replay ability, does it feel like a game that demands multiple play throughs?
Answer:
It's linear, but Trico and the world will be a motivational driver for multiple plays for me at least

How emergent is the gameplay and world, is the game mostly scripted or more reactive and dynamic?
Answer:
It's emergent in the sense that Trico is dynamic and he never behaves quite the same way, beyond that it's predictable in that the areas are preset puzzles
 
Wish I could say I played them.

I wasn't in the gaming bubble so they looked super cool to me but I thought it was just me and they would be bad do I never bothered.

Really kicking myself but now they have aged do much.

Those are certainly glowing impressions.

I remember watching X-Play's review of Shadow of the Colossus and it completely blew my mind. It was the reason I got a PS2 (was mainly a Gamecube person before then). Got ICO a year later and loved it as well.
 

Haines

Banned
I remember watching X-Play's review of Shadow of the Colossus and it completely blew my mind. It was the reason I got a PS2 (was mainly a Gamecube person before then). Got ICO a year later and loved it as well.

Im going to keep my preorder due to these impressions and if i love it enough i can always go back.

My fiance will love it bc of the animal in it. We just played until dawn and the dog was her favorite character. (We own a dog grooming business)
 
I'm excited to see the AI and Trico animations in action. Not many games attempt to do advanced AI and animalistic movement in games usually misses the mark

It's pretty understandable why Ueda is excited for Rain World, and Sony is promoting TLG and Rain World for PSX, since they both focus on complex animal AI and dynamic fluid animations

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Jb

Member
Man now that's it's almost here I'm getting really excited about it.
I don't expect it to be mind blowing the way Ico and SotC were but a beautiful, heartfelt puzzle-adventure game sounds like a great way to end the year.
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Never understood the "I've only seen 3 minutes of the game, therefore it's 5 hours long" thing.

I think the predictions of it being short are all down to the development troubles. People are conveniently forgetting that both Ico and SotC were short too.
 

bigol

Member
The footage has mostly focused on the same section, so I imagine some feel that means the developers don't have much else to show

In FF XV case they showed was 90% of the game environments. I don't know in TLG case what does it mean, i can only hope later game environments will be more varied despite being part of the same area,the ruins. The similarities to Ico are striking though and that game despite being confined into an enclosed area was interesting and varied until the end.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
The footage has mostly focused on the same section, so I imagine some feel that means the developers don't have much else to show

I'd prefer this myself. I get tired of developers blowing their entire load before a game releases. I do want to see something to confirm the gameplay works and the graphics are decent and so on but don't go showing me every area or boss or enemy or whatever. Hell even hide some of the gameplay mechanics from me which is what Titanfall 2 did with its single player campaign. Anyone who has played the game know's what I'm talking about.
 
Re: those Gamefaqs impressions, the guy said he had played for about 5 hours as of last night (and felt like he had only played
about a third of the game
so far) but that he "didn't spend more than 5-10 mins per section unless...figuring out a puzzle"

So playtime might be longer if you spend time missing around with Trico and taking in the scenery and whatnot
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Re: those Gamefaqs impressions, the guy said he had played for about 5 hours as of last night (and felt like he had only played
about a third of the game
so far) but that he "didn't spend more than 5-10 mins per section unless...figuring out a puzzle"

So playtime might be longer if you spend time missing around with Trico and taking in the scenery and whatnot

People love blasting as fast as possible through games when they get them early. Its like a race to see who can beat it first just to tell you how long it took.
 

NYmanutd

Member
It would probably score between 85 and 95 but i have a feeling it would be my game of the generation as Shadow of the Colossus was on the ps2 era.
 

akileese

Member
I cancelled my collector's edition. Price is just a bit too high with it releasing a week after FFXV. I do really want to play it but now that the CE's are becoming readily available again I'll wait it out and see if they drop in price. If not, I'll get the regular edition when it price drops. I'm in the same boat as a few people here where I really want the artbook and steelbook, but not crazy about the statue. I'd get it if I could pay $80 for just those two.
 

gfxtwin

Member
Unless Ueda has lost his touch, I'm expecting the massive ruined city to be a place worth soaking in as much atmosphere as possible. Ico was one of those games - like REmake, Bioshock, Myst, etc - where the setting was as much a character as anyone and it felt a lot like a real place that was lived in and had an enigmatic history to everything. You felt like you were there - the birds chirping in the distance, the sound of the wind, the warmth of the sun, etc.

SOTC's sealed off landscape had this as well I think - every ruined city or landmark or structure felt like it was there for a reason, and there was almost an archeological element to figuring out what that reason was and why those places appeared as they do during the game's story (why is the entire landscape deserted? What was the purpose of the giant tower, the various temples and ruins, etc?). If the TLG has that amazing and unique environmental storytelling the previous games had I'll be very pleased.
 
I cancelled my collector's edition. Price is just a bit too high with it releasing a week after FFXV. I do really want to play it but now that the CE's are becoming readily available again I'll wait it out and see if they drop in price. If not, I'll get the regular edition when it price drops. I'm in the same boat as a few people here where I really want the artbook and steelbook, but not crazy about the statue. I'd get it if I could pay $80 for just those two.
yup....with Amazon prime, I usually end up with CE for around $70, but I dunno, it comes out to almost a $100 for TLG...it's pushing it, when i can get the standard version for $48.
 
I think the predictions of it being short are all down to the development troubles. People are conveniently forgetting that both Ico and SotC were short too.

It quite disingenuous of you for the fact that playing them the first time isn't the case. All games are shorter as they apply to all replays since players have been familiar with the level design/mechanics.
 

akileese

Member
yup....with Amazon prime, I usually end up with CE for around $70, but I dunno, it comes out to almost a $100 for TLG...it's pushing it, when i can get the standard version for $48.

I may wait it out and try to snag it with Best Buy. I'm about to have $20 in reward certs so that + 20 percent brings it down to a price I'm comfortable paying.
 
Unless Ueda has lost his touch, I'm expecting the massive ruined city to be a place worth soaking in as much atmosphere as possible. Ico was one of those games - like REmake, Bioshock, Myst, etc - where the setting was as much a character as anyone and it felt a lot like a real place that was lived in and had an enigmatic history to everything. You felt like you were there - the birds chirping in the distance, the sound of the wind, the warmth of the sun, etc.

SOTC's sealed off landscape had this as well I think - every ruined city or landmark or structure felt like it was there for a reason, and there was almost an archeological element to figuring out what that reason was and why those places appeared as they do during the game's story (why is the entire landscape deserted? What was the purpose of the giant tower, the various temples and ruins, etc?). If the TLG has that amazing and unique environmental storytelling the previous games had I'll be very pleased.
I was playing Ico for the first time a few weeks ago and you can tell that Miyazaki must have been taking notes before he worked on Dark Souls. The interconnected map with shortcuts that lead back to places you're familiar with and glimpsing areas in the distance then arriving there later, it's all Ico

(Yes, I know he said Ico led him to getting into game development)
 

Švejk

Banned
So I'm wondering what exactly the Blood reference is on the ESRB rating is referring to. I'm getting TLG regardless, but I remain a bit hesitant to play in front of my 8 and 5 year old because of that. My youngest can be sensitive to blood showing of any type. Would anyone know what specifically the ESRB pinged for Blood by chance? Spoiler tag it if necessary.
 
So I'm wondering what exactly the Blood reference is on the ESRB rating is referring to. I'm getting TLG regardless, but I remain a bit hesitant to play in front of my 8 and 5 year old because of that. My youngest can be sensitive to blood showing of any type. Would anyone know what specifically the ESRB pinged for Blood by chance? Spoiler tag it if necessary.
www.esrb.org/ratings/Synopsis.aspx?Certificate=34594&Title=The+Last+Guardian
Quoted the relevant stuff. The link also has some other spoilery gameplay details
Cutscenes also depict acts of violence and occasional blood:
Trico attacked by spears or swords; Trico bleeding from wounds
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...soldiers sometimes emit blood-like flashes or red symbols when injured.
 
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