The zip image came after Ryce leaked his roster, unless I'm misunderstanding.
Wait, really? I could have sworn I saw an old source on this on Reddit from a few months ago but now that I'm trying to find it I can't so you're probably right
The zip image came after Ryce leaked his roster, unless I'm misunderstanding.
There's FOUR FEMALE CHARACTERS IN A ROSTER OF 38
Good thing they put Winter Soldier in there instead of Black Widow /s
I could blame this on Marvel but the Capcom side is equally bad at female representation.
It's kind of ironic to be saying it given my preferences, but why does it matter? Probably the majority of the characters I'd want to see (especially on the Capcom side) are female, but this idea of 'representation' is stifling to creativity.
We don't need to fill some dumb quotas of x number of x group of people in a game like this. We just need the best, most compelling possible characters.
Like, I don't want Blade just to fill some quota of 'gotta have a black dude'. I want Blade because he's an awesome character.
There's FOUR FEMALE CHARACTERS IN A ROSTER OF 38
Good thing they put Winter Soldier in there instead of Black Widow /s
I could blame this on Marvel but the Capcom side is equally bad at female representation.
I don't know who to trust with respect to leaks anymore. Especially when some seem to be synthesizing information from other sources which may or may not be valid. Ryce only got partial information and presumed the total was one more than he knew, I guess?
If this file leak truly was posted pre-E3, then it's somewhat hopeful if these characters are also playable:
Dormammu
Ghost Rider
Venom
Winter Soldier
Frank West
Haggar
But that means that also leaves one more Capcom character to even out the roster at 17 a piece (for a total of 34). Would that be Grandmaster Meio?
Also, are those enough to counteract the roster-based hatred of this game? It would never be enough unless people got something MvC2-like TBH. But 34 is pretty close to the 36 for Vanilla.
Furthermore, why is that Arthur folder 2 and a half gigs? Even with all those different armors he has, seems like a lot if you stretch it out to the cast (and rest of the game). Uncompressed at this point?
Also I doubt Ultron Omega is this because we're missing an Omega model, but it would be interesting if he tossed Sigma aside and fused with Omega from MMZ:
There's FOUR FEMALE CHARACTERS IN A ROSTER OF 38
Good thing they put Winter Soldier in there instead of Black Widow /s
I could blame this on Marvel but the Capcom side is equally bad at female representation.
It's so weird because Marvel has recently been pushing a lot more female and PoC representation in their comics. Characters like Ms Marvel, Squirrel Girl, Black Panther, and Luke Cage are really hot right now but are missing from the base roster (Black Panther being released as month 1 dlc seems almost worse somehow).
It really does look like they took a look at the current MCU and then took out all of the women and PoC characters (Falcon, War Machine, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch). Then for some reason left Nova in? (I'm actually cool with that tho, Nova is awesome). Captain Marvel and Gamora almost seem like token inclusions. I can't really tell if this was a Marvel directive or just what Capcom thought would be most popular, probably a mix of both, people point to some "marvel ban" but tbh the MCU is more popular right now to a wider audience and more relevant than xmen are so it makes sense Capcom would focus on those characters if they wanted to appeal to the widest audience.
It's a real shame that so many factors of this game seem poorly thought through. It actually looks great to play from early looks. The biggest shame is that the brand new characters that didn't have their assets and movesets ported over from MvC look the best and most interesting to me (Thanos looks fukin sick). It makes me wonder what the game could have been with another 6 months to a year of dev time and a focus on introducing new characters and remaking old ones rather than just copy-pasting from the prior title.
This was a great and emotional speech btw.Bill Roseman, the head of Marvel Games, gave a 20 minute impassioned speech about the need for diversity in games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_7M93WRFng&feature=youtu.be&t=1704
I suspect they just let Capcom select whoever they wanted.
I really really don't have a problem with talking about DLC pre launch. It shows they plan on supporting the game once it's out and gives me new characters to be excited about once the game has released.
Did I miss something how did we get to 38 characters? Even with the rumor dlc leaks for the future like venom and frank west that doesn't add up.
28 of ryce + zero
6 newcomer dlc including sigma and bp
2 ??? In frank west and venom
Did the zip link have others I missed?
I'm going to playing around with the rumored leaks, and merge them together.
Marvel
Iron Man
Captain America
Hulk
Thor
Hawkeye
Spider-Man
Thanos
Ultron
Captain Marvel
Rocket/Groot
Gamora
Nova
Doctor Strange
Potential Marvel Character
Venom
Ghost Rider
Dormammu
Capcom
Ryu
Chun-Li
Mega Man X
Zero
Morrigan
Jedah
Chris Redfield
Nemesis
Arthur
Firebrand
Spencer
Monster Hunter
Dante
Strider
Potential Capcom Characters
Mike Haggar
Frank West
Capcom DLC
Sigma
Marvel DLC
Black Panther
Winter Solider
Boss Characters
Death
Grandmaster Pluto
Dahren Mohran
Ultron Sigma
Shelved Character?
Ant-Man
It's kind of ironic to be saying it given my preferences, but why does it matter? Probably the majority of the characters I'd want to see (especially on the Capcom side) are female, but this idea of 'representation' is stifling to creativity.
We don't need to fill some dumb quotas of x number of x group of people in a game like this. We just need the best, most compelling possible characters.
Like, I don't want Blade just to fill some quota of 'gotta have a black dude'. I want Blade because he's an awesome character.
Clearly this isn't the generation of Sakura. I wanted her in SFV and didn't get her and she's not in this either![]()
I only know about the characters I listed a few weeks ago, but I guess it's possible that there are a few more my source doesn't know about. He seemed pretty sure on the number 28, though. We'll see.Where is Ryce? What does Ryce think? WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET RYCE ON THE PHONE?!!
I don't think those characters would work as skins. Venom is immensely larger than Spider-Man and behaves completely differently. Winter Soldier has a preference for firearms -- hypothetically, he could be given something like...Edit: I wonder what Bucky's specials will be since Spencer got that bionic arm super on lockdown... Wait. Alternate costume but with grappling gun instead of just his arm? Might explain the new grenade move? Similar to a premiere skin ala Injustice 2? Venom could be an alt costumes for Spidey?
It's so weird because Marvel has recently been pushing a lot more female and PoC representation in their comics. Characters like Ms Marvel, Squirrel Girl, Black Panther, and Luke Cage are really hot right now but are missing from the base roster (Black Panther being released as month 1 dlc seems almost worse somehow).
It's kind of ironic to be saying it given my preferences, but why does it matter? Probably the majority of the characters I'd want to see (especially on the Capcom side) are female, but this idea of 'representation' is stifling to creativity.
We don't need to fill some dumb quotas of x number of x group of people in a game like this. We just need the best, most compelling possible characters.
Like, I don't want Blade just to fill some quota of 'gotta have a black dude'. I want Blade because he's an awesome character.
It's 2017. If you don't know that DLC is coming and already in production for your retail game, you're willingly putting yourself in a bubble of ignorance.
Here.
I only know about the characters I listed a few weeks ago, but I guess it's possible that there are a few more my source doesn't know about. He seemed pretty sure on the number 28, though. We'll see.
I don't think those characters would work as skins. Venom is immensely larger than Spider-Man and behaves completely differently. Winter Soldier has a preference for firearms -- hypothetically, he could be given something like...
Special Moves:
Electric palm blast (short range beam)
Flying Superman punch
Leaping ground pound punch
Walking machine gun spray
Knife counter
Hyper Combos:
Puts palm to ground and releases several pulses of electricity
Sniper rifle shot
CQC knife combo ending in a big bionic arm punch
Oh, nobody's surprised.
Doesn't mean we have to like or put up with it though.
Like I said: I didn't even outright hate the demo, but seeing that DLC / pre-order ad at the end of it just reminded me how I'd have to commit to more nickle-and-diming if I chose to jump in, and the thought of it just makes me more likely to ignore the game outright.
Wait I thought Ant Man was part of ryce's leak? Why did you list him as shelved?
It's kind of ironic that putting in more POC and women is seen as stifling diversity and "meeting a quota" instead of just...putting in more women and POC.
Wait, it's not ironic. It's fucking shitty.
He hasn't shared his thoughts with me yet, but I think it's worth considering simply for the fact that Dah'ren Mohran, Grandmaster Meio, and a restrained Thanos were listed a week before the new story trailer was released. Those obviously aren't just good guesses.I was wondering what you and your source think about that ".zip leak" if you've both seen it? Does it even seem like there could be shred of authenticity to that "leak", in regards to I guess the visual information/presentation? Probably a dumb question but I'm​ sure you've seen a lot of fakes over the years and you'd probably know whether​ or not Capcom would even compile information in that matter lol.(
This is going to be the Street Fighter X Tekken of the Marvel series, isn't it?
Hypothetically, if Dormammu is in the game, how much did they butcher him?I only know about the characters I listed a few weeks ago, but I guess it's possible that there are a few more my source doesn't know about. He seemed pretty sure on the number 28, though. We'll see.
I don't think those characters would work as skins. Venom is immensely larger than Spider-Man and behaves completely differently. Winter Soldier has a preference for firearms -- hypothetically, he could be given something like...
Special Moves:
Electric palm blast (short range beam)
Flying Superman punch
Leaping ground pound punch
Walking machine gun spray
Knife counter
Hyper Combos:
Puts palm to ground and releases several pulses of electricity
Sniper rifle shot
CQC knife combo ending in a big bionic arm punch
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WWSSNufEFLUDoes anyone have a video of Spencer's level 3? I've only been able to perform it once, but the animation seemed strange to me and I couldn't really tell what was going on. I'd like to take a closer look at it.
Your guess is as good as mine.Hypothetically, if Dormammu is in the game, how much did they butcher him?
Thanks. Yeah, that's a pretty weird animation.
He hasn't shared his thoughts with me yet, but I think it's worth considering simply for the fact that Dah'ren Mohran, Grandmaster Meio, and a restrained Thanos were listed a week before the new story trailer was released. Those obviously aren't just good guesses.
I was just given permission to share this.
Arthur
Chris
Chun-Li
Dante
Firebrand
Jedah
Monster Hunter
Morrigan
Nemesis
Ryu
Spencer
Strider Hiryu
X
Ant-Man
Captain America
Captain Marvel
Doctor Strange
Gamora
Hawkeye
Hulk
Iron Man
Nova
Rocket/Groot (this is how the character was named to me; I'm not sure if it's just Rocket Raccoon with Groot assists or a redesigned character actually called Rocket/Groot)
Spider-Man
Thanos
Thor
Ultron
The Capcom side is missing a character, but it's probably someone like Frank West.
So, I think it's pretty apparent that the internet has been in sort of a fit of denial ever since Ryce supposedly leaked the full roster for Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite, and to be completely honest, you have every right to be, especially since it turns out that this leak is true.
Before I give you anymore information, I should probably give you some insight on how I actually came to know this. I'm essentially what I'd like to call a freelance animator, having graduated from Toronto's George Brown College a couple of years ago. In the years proceeding, I was lucky enough to meet several people in the business, and two of these people happened to work for Capcom USA. The information I have for you, as scarce as it is, is from these guys. Names will be with-held as well as position (for obvious reasons), but these two individuals have indeed confirmed that what Ryce said is true.
You see, the team behind Infinite is fully aware of the fact that Ryce has been leaking information about the game before Infinite even got announced, but simply let it pass because of one singular reason...he's never fully told the truth. They wouldn't tell me anymore than that regarding characters, but in exchange for keeping surprises for later, they decided to give me details on the story mode. Apparently, this information was deemed to be far less important by the higher ups when compared to the actual gameplay and characters of the game, which they chuckled at.
-In terms of cutscenes, the story is around two and a half hours long.
-The story features the option to play through story sections either as a solo character or creating your own team from the characters available. Certain character choices may effect dialogue before and after a fight.
-There are several unplayable characters being created for the use in Story mode, acting as enemy units for the player to fight. The first confirmed ones are the Asgardian soldiers seen in the first story trailer. The second is apparently a Rathalos from the Monster Hunter series.
-All 6 of the first wave DLC characters will be making an appearance in the story in some form, while the only character the player can actually fight is an incomplete version of Sigma.
-Zero is a part of the story mode, Johnny Yong Bosch apparently returning to voice the character. It's not made clear if he's a playable character.
-While Ultron Sigma is the main villain of the story, both Thanos and Jedah play pivotal roles as major antagonists in the story. These are the only unconfirmed characters that the two actually spoke of by name.
-X is the main character of the story mode for the Capcom side, and yes, he does have a voice actor. No names have been given for his English VA, but his Japanese VA is Takahiro Sakurai, his VA from X8 and Project X Zone 1 & 2.
The last thing I was allowed to ask them was in regards to the DLC and how they planned to handle the 6 initial DLC characters. They then confirmed that all the DLC characters would be coming out with two at a time, all of them planned for release before 2018. The first two DLC characters (Who we've already confirmed is Sigma and Venom (Edit: This was a misinterpretation of information. The actual first Marvel DLC character is Black Panther as of 12/06/17. This was not meant to be a confirmation that Venom was coming)) are set to release in early October with the other four following suit. Surprisingly, none of the DLC characters are actually complete at this point, the most a majority of them have so far is a model (which will be used in the story mode).
As for future DLC plans, it's apparently all up in the air. They definitely plan to have some details by the end of the year, but they've confirmed one thing...it will not be split into seasons like SFV. They claimed that the most likely option they're going to go with is themed character packs. They didn't say how frequent they would come out, but they really want to get out as many characters as they can by the end of 2018, especially since the SFV team apparently has some really big plans for 2018 and they need to compete for attention.
And that's it. Despite what happened with Ryce's leaks, the team is still trying to keep information on the roster a secret. Makes me wonder if it's possible that there's more to the roster than Ryce is letting on? Sadly, I can't confirm that, but I can definitely let you all know that they've already got their plans set for 2017. Expect alot at E3.
The slashes they used in Marvel Infinite are more true to his DMC3 appearance FYI.
Currently we have about three rumors or leaks that haven't disproved yet.
1. Ryce Leak - 28 characters
2. Zero, Theme DLC, and Story mode Leak
3. Datamine List
Currently we have about three rumors or leaks that haven't disproved yet.
1. Ryce Leak - 28 characters
2. Zero, Theme DLC, and Story mode Leak
3. Datamine List
Fwiw antman could be above arthur on that third list if it's alphabetical.
There gonna be showing off versus mode on stream today https://twitter.com/marvelvscapcom/status/875016450758463488
hopefully combofiend is there.
This, plus he was explicitly mentioned in both the initial Polygon leak & the Ryce leak. I wouldn't worry too much about Scott.Fwiw antman could be above arthur on that third list if it's alphabetical.