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[IbizaPocholo]

Windows 10 security: Microsoft reveals 'Secured-core' to block firmware attacks

The new layer of security is for high-end PCs and the first Windows 10 'Secured-core' PC is the Arm-powered Surface Pro X.

www.zdnet.com

Microsoft these days is also a hardware company and it's taken DRM-hacking lessons learned from the Xbox and applied them to the Windows hardware ecosystem under the new 'Secured-core' initiative.

The overall approach is derived from Microsoft's experience in preventing people from hacking its Xbox gaming consoles.

"Xbox has a very advanced threat model because we don't trust the user even in physical possession of the device. We don't want the user to be able to hack the console to run their own games," said Weston.

"Also, when you take it out of the game domain and you put into the real-world physical domain, you want the same guarantee that an attacker cannot access your code and data. We took our own learnings and worked with silicon vendors to develop a strategy to deal with advanced threats."

 

[phil_t98]

Windows 10 security: Microsoft reveals 'Secured-core' to block firmware attacks

The new layer of security is for high-end PCs and the first Windows 10 'Secured-core' PC is the Arm-powered Surface Pro X.

www.zdnet.com

Microsoft these days is also a hardware company and it's taken DRM-hacking lessons learned from the Xbox and applied them to the Windows hardware ecosystem under the new 'Secured-core' initiative.

The overall approach is derived from Microsoft's experience in preventing people from hacking its Xbox gaming consoles.

"Xbox has a very advanced threat model because we don't trust the user even in physical possession of the device. We don't want the user to be able to hack the console to run their own games," said Weston.

"Also, when you take it out of the game domain and you put into the real-world physical domain, you want the same guarantee that an attacker cannot access your code and data. We took our own learnings and worked with silicon vendors to develop a strategy to deal with advanced threats."

As soon as it’s hackable then people abuse that with playing pirated games. No company wants people to have the ability to play pirated games on their system. Sony will probably have the same stance on this so it ain’t realy an issue.

 

[lynux3]

As soon as it’s hackable then people abuse that with playing pirated games. No company wants people to have the ability to play pirated games on their system. Sony will probably have the same stance on this so it ain’t realy an issue.

PlayStation 4 has had an ARM processor on-board that performs the same level of security since day one. It's ARM TrustZone.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

How dare they.

 

[nikolino840]

PlayStation 4 has had an ARM processor on-board that performs the same level of security since day one. It's ARM TrustZone.

I think it's work...never seen hacked consoles in this gen

 

[TLZ]

I think it's work...never seen hacked consoles in this gen

PS4, Wii U and Switch have all been hacked.

 

[Von Hugh]

What a bunch of assholes.

 

[CyberPanda]

Lol. Good luck because hackers will always find a way. They adore the challenge.

 

[Alx]

I suppose there's a lot less incentive to hack the Xbox when anybody can switch it to dev mode and run custom software on it already.

 

[Lanrutcon]

I don't have any issues with the exercise, but all they're doing is buying time. If the console is a success, it will draw the necessary talent to break it open.

 

[FranXico]

This is fine, actually. Are peope complaining about THIS?

 

[TeamGhobad]

im taking mathematical cryptography next year this excites me.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

Fair enough, If they dropped support for the system then we can expect it to get firmware not long after but till that day comes I don't mind. At that point you might as well just stream your PC to your TV if you want homebrew and an open environment to piss about it.

 

[01011001]

I suppose there's a lot less incentive to hack the Xbox when anybody can switch it to dev mode and run custom software on it already.

I bet this is the reason why it's not hacked yet.
there are already emulators you can use either with a console set to developer mode, or even easier... through the damn web browser.

so why hack it?

 

[KlickKlack]

I bet this is the reason why it's not hacked yet.
there are already emulators you can use either with a console set to developer mode, or even easier... through the damn web browser.

so why hack it?

lol.... troll?

can you play on it pirated xbox games ? 100% not.

so its not hackt.

 

[mejin]

 

[Son_of_Zardoz]

I mean don't all console makers try to prevent this? Don't understand why this is news or ever would be, regardless of which company it is.

 

[Woo-Fu]

People saying it is just a matter of time don't really understand how piracy works. Managing to hack a console isn't enough. You have to make it trivial enough for endusers and you have to make it relatively reliable and undetectable to the point people don't have to worry about their accounts for it to be a "problem" for the platform holder. It doesn't have to be 100% effective to be cost-effective.

As far as protected-core being something new, it isn't. Stuff like that has existed in the computer space for a long time. Most of you never heard of it because there's been no compelling reason for it to trickle down to consumer-level hardware.

The hilarious bit is where they talk about not trusting the user as being some special initiative. Historically Microsoft's operating systems have been lambasted for having practically no security model in comparison to almost every other operating system. Thanks for finally zipping up your fly, Microsoft, at least on console.

 

[Mattyp]

I think it's work...never seen hacked consoles in this gen

Plenty of PS4 games out there, think it's only version 5.00< below or some shit but. So no newer games possible last I checked.

 

[Caffeine]

every xbox can turn into a dev kit, i'm sure from that mode you could find a way as they say. I personally dont care if people are playing "backups", its the people that mod their consoles like a jtag 360 just to use mod menus in the old cod games. which exists in bc. ps3 and 360 is like every other lobby some dude hacking online. this is also true for old battlefield games.

 

[nikolino840]

Plenty of PS4 games out there, think it's only version 5.00< below or some shit but. So no newer games possible last I checked.

Well... not like the previous gen...i don't know about ps3...but the 360 was famous for piracy...

 

[Stuart360]

So evil and anti consumer by Microsoft.

 

[Caffeine]

Well... not like the previous gen...i don't know about ps3...but the 360 was famous for piracy...

ps3 was hacked when geohot released the system keys. people were running games off external drives.

 

[pesaddict]

Ahh xbox 360 those were the days, Verbatim dvd +r if ya know ya know lol.