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demigod
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Tommy Fisher is not coming back to explain it. If he did he would’ve by now. He even liked your post when you let loose the pics. I’ll take a 1 month avatar bet if i’m wrong
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Kumomeme
Member
im not suprise if sony started to release information after TLOU2 launch in end of MayI honestly think Sony just doesn’t want to overshadow last of us 2 with fully revealing the PS5. Remember Microsoft is trying to get the upper hand for next gen. They have to go all in and start early trying to get back what they lost.. Sony on the other hand still have maybe what is their biggest game of this gen releasing soon. So why not wait till after to do a full press blowout
ps4 still kicking ass for them...one of their biggest game is coming surely they didnt want ps5 to affected ps4's sales. Probably this year is their last spurt for ps4.
Moving on from this
Tommy Fisher
debacle. How likely is it that the ps5 will have a secondary processor for OS functions like the ps4 did. I feel like allocating cores and threads from the CPU for the OS might be a bit of an overkill.
Tommy Fisher
debacle. How likely is it that the ps5 will have a secondary processor for OS functions like the ps4 did. I feel like allocating cores and threads from the CPU for the OS might be a bit of an overkill.BlacknGold_Blood
Member
Did you not read my question?
siekro1983
Banned
Its like 30 pages, and sorry i'm not gonna look.
saintjules
Member
I honestly think Sony just doesn’t want to overshadow last of us 2 with fully revealing the PS5. Remember Microsoft is trying to get the upper hand for next gen. They have to go all in and start early trying to get back what they lost.. Sony on the other hand still have maybe what is their biggest game of this gen releasing soon. So why not wait till after to do a full press blowout
Tbh, I don't think TLOU2 will be eclipsed in any way by the reveal. This game will have its full glory regardless and will have monstrous sales at launch.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Some things You literally just cannot say without getting someone fired and fucking them and yourself over in the process. Another problem is without being direct things can be misinterpreted. It's not just frustrating for you all its frustrating for us too believe it or not. Constantly talking in circles and having people say the dumbest of things and even violate your personal space and attack you elsewhere and not just on gaming forums. It is tiring. I will definitely have information the cycle after this one and I also absolutely will not be sharing anything. Vetting is also difficult because the people passing this information could lose jobs or in some cases actually face legal actions. Then the small handful of people that actually do know something on this forum and probably other sites as well pass information between themselves that probably wont ever be shared. I have said it before some of the people with (actual information) have made this much more bearable for me and I thank them for it. Sony should be releasing everything that everyone wants to hear about and we can stop this circle jerk and you all can get to arguing over a number that will be inconsequential when it comes to differentiating the two consoles.
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Sinthor
Gold Member
I would agree that IF Sony went with the 9.2 TF box they would know MS was going for higher. I mean Microsoft has HARDLY hidden the fact that EVERY SINGLE TIME, they are going for the max performance they can squeeze out of the hardware. So that is not a surprise to ANYONE.
HawarMiran
Banned
But telling the name of the game you saw would put your source in danger?How so? The things you said were very detailed. If I worked on that project I would know we have a leaker. Does that make sense?
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
Agreed. And if it's a 9.2TF box, they said that price matters a great deal and were aiming for 399. A 9.2 TF machine vs. 12 TF machine should be about $100 difference...if it's only $50, I think Sony is in for a world of hurt potentially when it comes to enthusiasts...
If the consoles are within a spitting distance of eachother 10-20% or so, then I don't think it's going to matter as much. 11 TF vs 12 just seems kinda whatever.
MaulerX
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OsirisBlack
Banned
Read my post from earlier today, they do know they have a leak. That's also another part of the problem. So much is posted daily that things get lost in the shuffle.
I could think of a million ways to say it more eloquently. His outburst showed more ignorance than anything else.
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Joey.
Member
I'm kind of new here but not sure how I feel about the "insiders" on this forum.
Maybe some are real but lets be honest most are bullshit.
Then the others might be being honest but have bad sources.
My 2 cents and considering how Xbox and Sony are acting at the moment...I think XSX and PS5 will be very close in power. I think that the XSX will have the edge, and I'm only saying that because it seems like Xbox was confident in their reveal and the lack of information from Sony is concerning.
I think Sony is on their heels right now in regards to next gen. Xbox has beaten to them punch twice now. I think Sony are in the war room right now figuring out how to market the PS5 the best they can and to play to their strengths. I don't think you'll see a mention of TFs unless its on par or higher but If I had to guess its probably around 10-12 TFs.
Sony is really taking their time here. This can either pay off really well if they knock it out of the park and surprise everyone with its looks, power and price or it can go really wrong because they've already pissed off many people and people won't be quick to forgive if it looks bad and is weak.
Anyways, ultimately....none of us know shit. Unfortunately we all still have to wait in agony.
Maybe some are real but lets be honest most are bullshit.
Then the others might be being honest but have bad sources.
My 2 cents and considering how Xbox and Sony are acting at the moment...I think XSX and PS5 will be very close in power. I think that the XSX will have the edge, and I'm only saying that because it seems like Xbox was confident in their reveal and the lack of information from Sony is concerning.
I think Sony is on their heels right now in regards to next gen. Xbox has beaten to them punch twice now. I think Sony are in the war room right now figuring out how to market the PS5 the best they can and to play to their strengths. I don't think you'll see a mention of TFs unless its on par or higher but If I had to guess its probably around 10-12 TFs.
Sony is really taking their time here. This can either pay off really well if they knock it out of the park and surprise everyone with its looks, power and price or it can go really wrong because they've already pissed off many people and people won't be quick to forgive if it looks bad and is weak.
Anyways, ultimately....none of us know shit. Unfortunately we all still have to wait in agony.
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Sinthor
Gold Member
Ugh... I guess I am? I really want to get this info. I don't believe they'll wait till May or anything like that. TLOU2 will be available on BOTH generations and I believe they need pre-orders happening at least by May if not sooner. I think it's just production issues and other factors mostly related to Coronavirus that's slowing things right now. Plus they're letting MS run rampant and shoot a lot of their big news so it will be settled down more by the time they DO announce news. Especially if they have some surprises up their sleeves in terms of performance and/or pricing, that would basically be like the E3 at the beginning of this current generation. That's all that's going on, IMHO. Just sucks for people like us who really want the details. For the average consumer it will just be more like 'Oh cool, there's a new Playstation and Xbox out for Christmas? Which one do I pick?' and that's about it. Only forum members and other enthusiasts are really waiting on news...ANY news.
WhispersintheWind
Member
I’m pretty sure...PSV isn’t 9.2TF lol... Can we put that to bed. I promise you PS5 isn’t 9.2TF.
MARTYWOLF
Member
I believe the github 9.2tf was at one point ps5 if sony suspected MS is going higher they must of changed it after doing all the BC testing problem is the github one isn't the newest stepping
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Tbh we won't know until Sony puts their head out of sand and actually talk about their top secret fucking console.
Not sure what they are waiting for. Ms has pretty much revealed all their major specs. If they had something better they would've talked about it already.
This is all on Sony.
lepermessiah
Member
I've read FlOps so many times now it's breaking my brain. Sony are watching with glee as well. Tommy Fishy falls off the earth. Reset era are achieving 100 fps at insane asylum emulation, but then I read a post by Osiris and I hear that soothing ps2 load up music and shore sounds.
WhispersintheWind
Member
It is not 9.2TF.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Why do people like this guy?
Is that really how you speak to your audience... really?
People are just excited over next-gen consoles. It's harmless fun. No need to get so ugly about people's speculation. Geez.
I know you've probably said it a million times before, but are you able to say in your opinion, what will actually differentiate the two consoles?
Agreed.
Reindeer
Member
Not that surprising. Rand is an Xbox fanboy, a more diplomatic Xbox fanboy, but still a fanboy.
Maxwell House
Member
I still don't understand why everyone believes Osiris is an actual insider when 1) He hasn't been able to prove he is a real insider here or at the other site 2) He has said things in the past that turned out to be completely not true.
Felessan
Member
20 pages in a flash in outcry for some clever trickster over practically nothing.
Lot of people seems to think that they entitled to information, even more so they entitled to truthful information (and someone else should continuosly verify it) on a regular basis.
Thirst is real, and some people way to invested into next-gen. And way to impatient.
It's a speculation thread. Calm down, choose the side to your liking and take every bit of information with a grain of salt. Cause no one know before official reveal will it be correct piece of information, or warped, or misinterpeted, or just it be a plain lie.
Lot of people seems to think that they entitled to information, even more so they entitled to truthful information (and someone else should continuosly verify it) on a regular basis.
Thirst is real, and some people way to invested into next-gen. And way to impatient.
It's a speculation thread. Calm down, choose the side to your liking and take every bit of information with a grain of salt. Cause no one know before official reveal will it be correct piece of information, or warped, or misinterpeted, or just it be a plain lie.
He is verified by Mods, it should be more than enough.
Rusco Da Vino
Member
Same shit again?
Edit: I see that half of your posts in this thread are to discredit people. Put them on ignore as I am going to do with you and move on.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
He says in the full video that he had been following the chat from last week's podcast for a week. And yet he didn't bother to deny the rumor.
He let the speculation continue effectively passively encouraging it instead of putting a stop to it.
And then he has the nerve to cuss out people after effectively misleading them for a week.
The sad part of it all is that he's been in the industry for decades now and has zero sources of his own. Not a single journalist has gotten a single comment from Sony brass about the reveal plans, about all the cancellations and the gamer response to the cancellation, about their shitty PR strategy. And then they show disdain for their own audience. Jason does this too. Ive never seen any publication that hates their audience more than the gaming media.
They are effectively useless.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
tbh at this point Sony is just going to wait until Microsoft blows their entire load at E3
they will go last, everyone will be desperate and thirsty
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Moving on from this
Either some small dual/quad-core ARM or RISC-V processor will probably be in there. It'll probably be in both systems actually. If it's RISC-V maybe they could integrate it into the APU directly?
Late night stuff....
We honestly can't say for 100% certain yet. There's at least as much to lend it credence as there is that doesn't. Been exhausting some different stuff on these things past few days. Might put some thoughts together on this stuff when there's time, but that for sure isn't tonight. I gotta kick Tommy outta my damn avatar spot.
My boy AdoredTV back at it; mostly focused on "Big Navi" but does have some XSX/PS5 talk around 17:40 mark but it's pretty brief on the consoles overall. He does seem to think PS5 is 9.2TF, but I can see his reasoning to it. I just hope folks who are vehemently against that possibility don't try saying he's a fanboy or has an agenda or whatever; he mainly focuses on CPU/GPU tech analysis and speculation in general, and doesn't have any perceivable bias for either MS or Sony.
So you don't have to agree with their reasoning on why they think PS5 is what they think it is, but overall it's pretty interesting analysis nonetheless. WILL say, tho, that their use of rumored PS5 Oberon spec at basis of calculation for arriving at around the TF performance level (supposed) of AMD's 80CU "Big Navi" card is pretty thoughtful in and of itself.
It's why I keep thinking that yeah, maybe realistically PS5 can hit between 10.4 - 11, maybe even on what's known related to it right now, or maybe there's an even bigger chip out there for it, or some dual chiplet approach,...or maybe it really is 9.2 after all. All those possibilities could be true, some more than others, but I guess perhaps within a couple of days we might start seeing what's really what. Just hope people're gonna be happy regardless.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to do a self-exorcism.
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Hawking Radiation
Member
Jesus.
Just think about it. 4 more months of THIS?
This place will be The Walking Dead levels of madness by the time Sony decides to show anything.
demigod
Member
Agreed. I expected better from GB, guess I was wrong about them. Gaming journalists are the worse of the bunch.
MaulerX
Member
He doesn't owe you or anyone anything. It's your own fault that your rabid thirst for news has got you and many others grasping at straws. Taking every single thing that anyone says as confirmation for anything Sony related. He's absolutely right for saying what he said.
There's no more eloquent way to say what he said. Straight and to the point. Perhaps the ignorance comes from so called "insiders" that are leading a horse not to water but to a cliff.
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HawarMiran
Banned
Can you let us have hope you annoying know-it-all?Your cult leader answered your calls. Now let us be
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
The giant bomb crew is completely jaded
I don’t know why they even cover video games as a hobby anymore
Metroiddarks
Member
So 54 Cu (3 SE) to 1.89 ghz could reach 13 TF (maximum age of puberty), is not impossible but that means the new cooler solution is good enough for reach this, so if the new xbox has 56 CU but with a worst cooler solution they will have a hard time to reach that "power".
WhispersintheWind
Member
Devs where told to target 10TF for retail last year. Rumor is then they was told target was 11TF Retail. I can’t confirm the 11TF Retail increase because I haven’t seen the documents on it.
In the last week and a Half to 2 weeks Devs have received new Dev Kits/Debug Kits a new revision for PSVR2. The new dev Kit/ debug Kits code names Caesar. For devs with VR games.
Rumor is in the last 3 Months Devs where sent new Debug Kits For PS5 a new revision to all devs.Debut Kits are the PSV dev console.
Also a new DS5 was supposed to be sent to devs. I haven’t Seen them or a pic of them. I don’t know if they have a camera or not in the new DS5 Dev Controllers.
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Metroiddarks
Member
He love to do it remember the trailers for Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
TherapistGaymer
Banned
I don't know what to say! I love you guys and the mods but deep down. Snake may have just took us to church.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Their is always a more eloquent or tactful way to convey a message even being straight and to the point. Being purposefully obtuse wont change that and neither will deflecting. He is speaking to his audience and to some of them directly. It shows a complete and utter lack of respect for his audience and the gaming community in general.
Rusco Da Vino
Member
This is what the opportunists do, they took the chance to get this viral because nobody gives a fuck about they boring show and they deceived their own tiny audience.
Now: Giant Bomb =
JournalismThat is what really happened here
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
I just want an announcement. Announcement of announcement is also fine. Sony just give us a date to wait for even if it’s 2 or 3 or 4 months away. Just give us an official date for the love of god.
Chromata
Member
Based on the situation, it was reasonable for fans to consider March 3rd. I definitely believed it could happen, it looked like a slip up, godfall devs said we'd hear more very soon, and Kojima's post added further fuel.
Instead of understanding that position, Giant Bomb chose to insult their own listeners. Now, they could have just been joking and being bombastic (pun intended) but that's still not how I'd personally conduct myself with my audience.
At the end of the day it doesn't really matter since we're just talking about game consoles, but I couldn't disagree more that Giant Bomb's handling of the situation was eloquent or the fault of the fans. Regardless this is just the opinion of an outsider looking in since I didn't even know Giant Bomb had a podcast until now.
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TherapistGaymer
Banned
Yeah but he went a bit hard. That was a bit unnecessary.
HawarMiran
Banned
we will get something for sure this month anyway. since january we got small stuff each month. january the logo got unveiled (facepalm) and february the official playstation site got launched if I remember correctly
Mriverz
Member
Gb being in the eyes of the public should of handled that better. He probably doesn’t care. But when the viewers stop dropping off and the money start getting tight they going feel real stupid for dissing the people that supported them. They cant get mad for a fuck up they did and try to cover it up and expect people to think that wasnt Suspicious as hell. The information when presented seemed Legit a video game journalist company saying a date then trying back track and act stupid
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OsirisBlack
Banned
I think MS has handled their information releases much more effectively than Sony has thus far.
Bogroll
Likes moldy games
And to top it off puberty range is 9-14
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