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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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VanSiriusGabriel

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Insane Metal said:
Is it too much to ask for Zen 4 on PS5 and XSX?

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Before Zen 2 confirmation, the usual PC "I read benchmarks" Masterraces were opting for Zen+ at best because their migty machines needs to be so much better than consoles, so I'm totally fine to smack their mama' asses only with Zen 2.
 
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Zero707

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My take on github I think Ariel was placeholder for PS5 for early devkit and early bc testing until RDNA 2.0 Features become available
Right now PS5 will oberon with RDNA 2.0 Features, now the question will Cerny add more CU to oberon or it will be the same with later revisions ?

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TheThreadsThatBindUs

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mckmas8808 said:
Did you following what he was saying though? We ARE DUMB for thinking the PS5 was going to get "announced" due to GiantBomb's supposed slip up.
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I'm not criticising what he is saying. The speculation was dumb, but then so is 99% of what is talked about on the internet. It still serves us nothing to lambast one another in such an ugly, disrespectful and unsightly way.

He needs to lighten up.
 
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WhispersintheWind

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bitbydeath said:
Is Caesar the new PS5 devkit name or is that strictly PSVR2?

Also are you suggesting the new kits are 11TF or that it was 11TF and no idea what the new ones are?
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Info I received. I which is second hand. Is that Target Prefs moves from 10TF for target for launch games for PS5 moves to 11TF Target Pref.

For the record If a launch Game has a 11TF Target Pref doesn’t mean the retail console is 11TF.

I do not Know what the Dev Kit/Debug Kit Target Pref is currently. I’m only repeating what I was told it was recently and last year.

From my Understanding The New PSVR2 Dev Kit/Debug Kit is Code Named Caesar.

All My Info is second hand Info I heard From Devs and People In the Industry. I haven’t seen it with first Hand Knowledge or any Documentation.

Feel free to ask @O’dium or BG Or Anybody’s Else Who have Knowledge.
 
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Good move by Google to add Shannon Studstill for their new first party studio but at the same time, will Stadia still be alive by the time their game is done?

InXile adding the combat designer from God of War is great for me because I loved the combat in God of War so possibly getting that combat system in InXile's next gen action RPG makes me look even more forward to that game than I already was.
 
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B_Boss

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BGs said:
Maybe you're right. Better without hints and riddles.
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Now wait a minute BG! If all you’re able to safely giveare hits and riddles the. I (and I’m sure a number others) take them all!

Thank you, Heisenberg and Osiris specifically for your amazing contributions. Please keep your careers and personal integrity Safeway of course! I’m due time all will be made clear anyway. Truly thankful for what you guys have revealed this far 🍻.
 
TLZ

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MaulerX said:
What are you talking about? Why split my post into 2 and respond to the same post twice as if I made 2 separate posts? You need to stop being disingenuous and framing people. You're pathetic.
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You posted 2 separate posts and doubled down on insulting us totally agreeing with his very insulting "dumb Motherfuckers" comment. Man up to the shit you say.

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There. 2 clearly separate posts and you doubling down on your insults. And you dare cry call me pathetic, disingenuous and framing people?
 
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So target was 11TFs, Xbox went 12TFs. I really wouldn't mess with 1TF either way if they are that close.

But people are want to say "but mine is more powerful!" no matter how negligible the advantage may be.

I think they had room, hence a newer revision, have gone up to 12TFs, even with the Xbox, and that's it. Then everything is equal and only software matters.
 
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demigod

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TLZ said:
You posted 2 separate posts and doubled down on insulting us totally agreeing with his very insulting "dumb Motherfuckers" comment. Man up to the shit you say.

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There. 2 clearly separate posts and you doubling down on your insults. And you dare cry call me pathetic, disingenuous and framing people?
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His Sword of Omen broke.
 
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WhispersintheWind said:
Info I received. I which is second hand. Is that Target Prefs moves from 10TF for target for launch games for PS5 moves to 11TF Target Pref.

For the record If a launch Game has a 11TF Target Pref doesn’t mean the retail console is 11TF.

I do not Know what the Dev Kit/Debug Kit Target Pref is currently. I’m only repeating what I was told it was recently and last year.

From my Understanding The New PSVR2 Dev Kit/Debug Kit is Code Named Caesar.

All My Info is second hand Info I heard From Devs and People In the Industry. I haven’t seen it with first Hand Knowledge or any Documentation.

Feel free to ask @O’dium or BG Or Anybody’s Else Who have Knowledge.
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Still less than Xbox.

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demigod

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WhispersintheWind said:
Info I received. I which is second hand. Is that Target Prefs moves from 10TF for target for launch games for PS5 moves to 11TF Target Pref.

For the record If a launch Game has a 11TF Target Pref doesn’t mean the retail console is 11TF.

I do not Know what the Dev Kit/Debug Kit Target Pref is currently. I’m only repeating what I was told it was recently and last year.

From my Understanding The New PSVR2 Dev Kit/Debug Kit is Code Named Caesar.

All My Info is second hand Info I heard From Devs and People In the Industry. I haven’t seen it with first Hand Knowledge or any Documentation.

Feel free to ask @O’dium or BG Or Anybody’s Else Who have Knowledge.
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BGs BGs Have you heard of the name Caesar for PSVR2 dev kit?
 
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OsirisBlack said:
Some things You literally just cannot say without getting someone fired and fucking them and yourself over in the process.
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How so? If you say stuff about the devkits how can this be traced back? Aren't all devkits the same? I mean the same for the same iteration. So it could've been any dev with access to that devkit which means thousands of people
 
Gavin Stevens

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X-Fighter said:
How so? If you say stuff about the devkits how can this be traced back? Aren't all devkits the same? I mean the same for the same iteration. So it could've been any dev with access to that devkit which means thousands of people
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It all depends. The more specific the details, the more likely you can trace back things. The messaging and wording are also key areas.

So for example, if somebody popped on and said they had a 5.56tf PS5, and had a picture of it, you’re instantly in trouble because you can trace a dev kit back to the exact location via the pic, but also to make it easier, each studio will have a different dev kit revision depending on the studio. A first party studio may have the latest revision, but a third party may be hanging on with older.

In short there isn’t any set thing you can do that can’t be traced back. Even just a simple “I have a dev kit” narrows you down from 7billion to a few hundred.
 
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X-Fighter said:
How so? If you say stuff about the devkits how can this be traced back? Aren't all devkits the same? I mean the same for the same iteration. So it could've been any dev with access to that devkit which means thousands of people
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There is a precedent for companies to send out very slightly different spec sheets to different people to catch out leakers. Since devkits cannot be tampered with, there's no way for a dev to take a proper look at what's inside
 
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TLZ said:
You posted 2 separate posts and doubled down on insulting us totally agreeing with his very insulting "dumb Motherfuckers" comment. Man up to the shit you say.

Post#61210
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There. 2 clearly separate posts and you doubling down on your insults. And you dare cry call me pathetic, disingenuous and framing people?
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Saitama goes perfectly with that response.
 
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peter42O said:
Personally, I will easily believe Timdog
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I'm being brutally honest. majority of people stopped reading your post from this point.

BGs said:
Maybe it doesn't come to mind anymore, many pages have gone by, but I think it's being a bit unfair, especially with some Insiders.

In addition, I have received some PM in the last hours and, based on all this, I would like to make some things clear.

The job of an Insider is not to give information. It is true that there are several types of information:

- The one that comes directly to you.
- The one that comes to you indirectly.

If the information reaches me directly and I publish it, I am risking my position. That is why, for example, I did not come here to give information, I already made it clear in my first message. I am not paid to give information. And it is the information I can give at that time, neither more nor less. And I give it for courtesy, not for obligation. Who says "here," I say "anywhere."

Similarly, many Insiders have information that does not compromise them but does compromise their sources. And that must be respected.

I do not know everyone, nor their intentions, but I find it hard to believe that some risk their positions for some photos. I think something else must be behind that explains the situation. Likewise I have not been able to follow the case in real time and I don't know exactly what happened (if someone can summarize it to me) but I am sure it will be solved in the best way.

You should also understand that, although silence is frustrating and information is scarce, it is not as easy as not saying a name. If an information comes out, it ends up knowing where it came from.

I have signed confidentiality papers. And therefore, the confidants of Osiris (for example) also (surely).

With all this we go to mistakes. As I can't come here to say anything exact, I can't go wrong either. My only mistake would be to tell the exact truth. And it would be a mistake because that would involve getting into legal trouble. I don't care at all if someone here believes me or not. I worry about choosing the right words to say the maximum allowed without any legal repercussion. And as I have said once in public and in private, the only time I said clearly that one was better than the other at a certain moment, it almost cost me my job. And that won't happen again. Similarly, if Osiris compromises your information, it will be compromising its sources. Seriously.

It's bullshit? Yes. It's crap. But that's what there is. It is either this or absolute silence.

I am sure that if there are no more "public" Insiders it is not because they do not want to but because they cannot.

Therefore, the only thing that can be done is to give you the information in a way that is not direct and in which you should know how to interpret. Some will interpret it well, and others will misinterpret it. I understand that those who misinterpret it will feel frustrated and deceived. But that's what there is. You can only give one guide. I cannot allow a story to appear on the Internet that says "I have said that ...". So I give you examples (or similes) for you to interpret.

If an Insider goes out to say exact things, it is because he can do it and because he is allowed to. If you ever see real publications ahead of time, I am sure they will not come from any Insider, unless you want to compromise someone.

The rest is called leaks, and they are anonymous. And the risk they have is that being anonymous can be true or false. And that's where the logic of each individual comes into play.

Logically many clauses are falling as information appears, and therefore, in those cases I can be a little more direct and affirm or deny things, since in that case I am not the origin of the information and I literally cover my back. The same must happen with other informants. And in other cases the information is denied by its own weight and logic and I only confirm the obvious (as has already happened). Similarly, what I can't say today, maybe tomorrow I can. But in any case, it will always be subject to your interpretation.

Yesterday I commented with some users by private. I can give you a Gif about my vision and you are the ones who have to interpret it.

The fact that after this, some draw wrong conclusions is everyone's problem.

In the same way. Saying one thing does not mean denying another. That is, saying that PS5 is great does not mean that the XSX is automatically crap. And the same in reverse.

I know what everyone wants to know. But you have to understand that I am not willing to lose my job because of it. Similarly, people who give information to @OsirisBlack trust him. And so it should be.

I hope you can understand what I am trying to convey. Do not be so demanding with those who bring you information. since for better or worse, try to make your wait more enjoyable or pleasant. Everywhere there are malicious people, but I think they are well known.

Cheers

If this message does not have the desired effect I think it will be my last "long" message.
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I can't be the only one that ctrl f'd for 'tflop or 'TF'.
 
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Burrito Bandito

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Zero707 said:
My take on github I think Ariel was placeholder for PS5 for early devkit and early bc testing until RDNA 2.0 Features become available
Right now PS5 will oberon with RDNA 2.0 Features, now the question will Cerny add more CU to oberon or it will be the same with later revisions ?

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Cerny can only work with what he is given. If HQ went to him and said “build a $400 console” then 9.2 is about right
 
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