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B_Boss
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Burrito Bandito
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amstradcpc
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It means that a 13,8 Tflops RDNA 2 GPU has the same wattage as the Github 9,2 Tflops RDNA 1 GPU.
13,8/9,2 = 1,5
But we know a 9,2 tflops RX 5700 has around 220 watts so a 12 Tflops RDNA 2 GPU will be around the 150 watts console consumption envelope.
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01011001
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show me 1 single sign that is not some insider an his sources that point towards the PS5 not being 9.2TF
we simply do not know, simple as that. we have no idea how powerful the PS5 is
JLB
Banned
yeah, i think so. my comment was responding to the coffin img with an xboz logo, when actually both consoles seems to be the same.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
It's been shown today. You're just going to deny everything regardless.
Gamernyc78
Banned
PS5 is really 4tf Rdna2 like lockhart. Both balanced systems
Just joking bro but it's confirmed ps5 is Rdna2 like nextbox.
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Three Jackdaws
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It was always achievable. But it was always a piss poor way to design a console. So either Sony are stupid and MS are smart or GitHub is simply BC testing.
We now know that ariel/gonzalo/flute are not PS5. They are RDNA1 based Navi 10 lite 36/40CU. Far more likely Oberon is simply an evolution of that platform, most likely used for BC development, than the PS5. Unless anyone wants to tell me another reason Sony bothered to develop ariel/gonzalo/flute?
Klee is right, he always has been. As have all the other insiders. People running with their assumptions into the weeds with GitHub data is the problem. Even when Matt literally told you guys not to.
I am guaranteeing you right now PS5 will not be a 36CU 2.0Ghz 9.2TF machine. (from Dr. Avatar on resetera)
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01011001
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show me then, where was it shown that the PS5 is not 9.2TF, show me where... was there a slide I missed where AMD said "oh btw, the PS5 is not 9.2TF, we not gonna tell you how powerful it is but it's not 9.2TF yo!"
when will people stop interpreting stuff into information that isn't there? just stop it.
we have zero reliable data on how powerful the PS5 will be when it hits store shelves, that is a fact, you cant deny that.
so it could be 9.2TF, it could be 18TF is Sony has suicidal thoughts and tries to sell a 1200€ console
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SSfox
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CyberPanda
Banned
Hmmmm
lepermessiah
Member
If at least we have confirmation on RDNA 2 on PS5...
Nah, people would still argue misinterpretation even if Lisa says "both next gen consoles are RDNA2".
And they can always talk about efficiency gains, so there will be GCN flops, RDNA 1 flops and RDNA 2 flops discussions.
Lisa will say it outright, and then our github prophets and heavenly hosts will chime "nah that's PR speak, ps5 will STILL have rdna1 features therefore I am the authority here."
Self High Five
Member
No info in Github about architecture except for that part that validates the architecture (RDNA 2)
If you're gonna quote middle aged fanboys you should go to his twitter instead where he bitterly tweets about (but doesn't have the balls to name) insiders that said his preferred toy may have slightly less horsepower than the other toy.
TLZ
Banned
Yes please. Straight ban. No mercy. We've had enough of their obvious trolling and bullshit.Mod of War
Can we now report users for "spreading misinformation/trolling" if they keep posting that the PS5 is using RDNA1, has not RT or has 9.2tf?
All of this has been debunked today
Agnostic2020
Member
Today amd said ps5 is rdna2 and has navi2x gpu .
gut hub is navi 10 with rdna 1 .
how dense can someone be to still
Insist on GitHub ?
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Personally think PS5 is ~11+ TF but don't see how the RDNA 2 confirmation totally debunks github.
I still think even if github is "true" that there might be something missing beyond simply "it was a BC test so RT was turned off." It could be that the RT cores are separate, and MS's 12 TF calculation includes them, and a game not using RT won't have access to 12TF of compute power or something.
Please make fun of me relentlessly if the above is all wrong.
edit: Oh so github was explicitly mentioning Navi10 + RDNA1?
HAHA THAT IntentionalPun guy is a MORAN!
I still think even if github is "true" that there might be something missing beyond simply "it was a BC test so RT was turned off." It could be that the RT cores are separate, and MS's 12 TF calculation includes them, and a game not using RT won't have access to 12TF of compute power or something.
Please make fun of me relentlessly if the above is all wrong.
edit: Oh so github was explicitly mentioning Navi10 + RDNA1?
HAHA THAT IntentionalPun guy is a MORAN!
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Enough with the Twitter drama in here and get this thread back on topic.
Thank you.
Thank you.
gundamkyoukai
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The new GPU will be great but from everything i see devs saying the SSD and CPU are big things for next gen and what they looking forward to .
Really looking forward to GDC next few years to see what they do with them engine wise.
Gudji
Member
So now it's Q&A... Is that it for the event?
It seems theres some ray tracing demo after, hope it doesn't take long until then.
01011001
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older chip version used before RDNA2 revisions were available.
early in development the Xbox 360 used Mac computers as dev kits... yes Microsoft used Mac as dev kits because they needed hardware that was similar to their planned design and that happened to be available in some Mac computers
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splattered
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Honest question not trolling... is it possible for Sony to have a 9.2TF RDNA2 console to meet that $399 entry price?
Not wanting it to be 9.2TF, just so much swirling around about this and wondering if that's even POSSIBLE (Not probable)
Not wanting it to be 9.2TF, just so much swirling around about this and wondering if that's even POSSIBLE (Not probable)
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The information is out there. If you want to give other possibilities then that's fine.
We'll come back when things are confirmed. I can't talk about information that was shared with us to day when all I keep hearing is, "It could also mean this! It could mean that!"
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saintjules
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You can read it can't you? Not sure what the problem is. Just got this galaxy 20 ultra.
Mr Moose
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It would cost them over $100 per machine, and 2GHz is probably too high for the GPU.
saintjules
Member
Then royally fucks up with fake DS5 images. What a way to go out
Agnostic2020
Member
36 cu at 2 ghz is expensive , hot and bad design . Why would sony risk rrod with that when amd has 56 cu ready and cost is not that much higher than 40 cu ?
CyberPanda
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01011001
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well they could use a wider chip for the final version and run lower clocks.
maybe the early dev kits needed to be 2ghz in order to get to the performance levels that their RDNA2 revision will reach witch 1.7ghz clocks?
clock rates are always in flux, I bet even now neither of them would rule out a change in clock speeds.
Microsoft changed them ahead of the Xbox One launch, and Sony even changed them AFTER the PSP was already on the market, as did Nintendo with the Switch, both gave their systems additional modes that can run higher clocks than what was originally made available
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demigod
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Like i said before, Github was old info. It was meant to be the 2019 chip. It makes sense why it had no vrs and no ray tracing. Oberon was always rdna 1. Colbert doing mental gymnastics over on ree. He now claims he knew oberon was rdna 2 before this reveal so it fits with his 9.2 TF narrative, lol.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Blue pill is ignorance and subscribing to the same MisterMediaX FUD as last time, Red pill is waking up from the ignorance and listening to AMD, actual solid sources in the industry, and everything else that flies in your face with logic.
Has nothing to do with the consoles themselves, but chosen confirmation bias and ignorance.
Agnostic2020
Member
Or GitHub is ps5 in BC boost mode . Just like ps4 pro is 2.5 tf in BC boost mode .
ethomaz
Banned
Same account... NoOneBR9.
He just keep changing the display name.
Mr Moose
Member
Wider with 36CUs? Why?
01011001
Banned
wider = more CUs
Please don't quote that guy to me. Drolebert is beyond reasoning.
PS5 supports all of AMD's next gen features like hardware RT, VRT, RDNA2 among other things. None of these were in the Github test. They were in the Arden test though! Conclusion? Arden was a up to date latest chip test. Oberon was an older chip for BACWARDS COMPATIBILITY TESTING! Therefore wouldn't have any of those. With AMD today confirming PS5 has all their latest GPU features, that also confirms the github Oberon data is not the final PS5 chip.
Mr Moose
Member
Oh I see, I thought the person I replied to first said 36CUs @ 2GHz, it was a post lower
TLZ
Banned
I wish that was true. But that's certainly not true for certain pathetic Xbox fans who kept pushing a certain narrative for so long and purposely trolling many people. That is very sad.
CyberPanda
Banned
AMD is backtracking on 7nm+
Metroiddarks
Member
Wow these people are really sick
Zero707
If I carry on trolling, report me.
Like i said Oberon will be using RDNA 2.0 Features, now let's hope cerny and his team were able to more CU to the final chipMy take on github I think Ariel was placeholder for PS5 for early devkit and early bc testing until RDNA 2.0 Features become available
Right now PS5 will oberon with RDNA 2.0 Features, now the question will Cerny add more CU to oberon or it will be the same with later revisions ?
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Koopatrol
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This is the real news here. Now that we don't have a reason to fear a delayed PS5 announcement, we can make fake Pastebins predicting the announcement for the entirety of March! HYPE!
j/k obviously
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
So if rDNA 2 is 50% better ppw then RDNA1 does that mean XSX is the equivalent of a 24tf gcn?
Wow if so.
Wow if so.
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