FranXico
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Chip leaks keep confirming the hopes of those who demand revenge for 2013: the PS5 gets shittier every week.
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sonomamashine
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lots of updates. We have got what is almost the final set of specs for PS5! It will be between 5-17 TFlops, 8-24 gb ram (gddr5 or gddr6 or hmb), 512gb or 1tb or 2tb ssd...hope this helps
all scenariosMoridianae
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Well, at the rate things are going to Hell in a handbasket by the hour, I'd say there's no way Sony says anything before April and we might as well hang that up.
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Three Jackdaws
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forgive my ignorance, I don't know what any of this means lol could someones explain in simple terms for a dummy? thank you!
.I'm assuming he's referring to posters adamant about 9.2 or lower.
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Three Jackdaws
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oh yeah I get that lol I'm referring to all the technical stuff which Komachi leaked. my bad.
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Three Jackdaws
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man that Cerny pic never gets old lmao
Oh that much is unknown to me. Now I'm curious myself
StreetsofBeige
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With the way the markets are crashing, a system at 7-9tf for $400 is more palatable than a $500 12tf system.
MS has already committed long time ago to SeX. They even said double the power of X and RDNA is a tweet late last year.
Sony might still have choice. That’s probably reason why info is all over the place at 9-12tf. Sony might have different dev kits out there but will focus on one set of specs at some point. And maybe they haven’t decided yet.
MS has already committed long time ago to SeX. They even said double the power of X and RDNA is a tweet late last year.
Sony might still have choice. That’s probably reason why info is all over the place at 9-12tf. Sony might have different dev kits out there but will focus on one set of specs at some point. And maybe they haven’t decided yet.
TLZ
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PS5 is 7tf.
Sosokrates
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It only seems like yesterday that we were anticipating the xbox one and ps4.
Lets compare the next gen "leap"
Xbox one
CPU : overall very similar in performance to the prior gen
GPU:
the x1s gpu had about 5.4x the raw performance of the 360s and if you count architecture improvements GCN brought the x1s gpu was about 7-8x more powerful
RAM:
By far the largest increase going from 512mb with 28gb/s bandwidth to 8gb @ roughly 150gb/s thats a 16x improvement in capacity and a 5x increase in bandwidth
The HDD was practically the same.
So to sum it up this gen saw
A 7-8x better gpu
A 0 - 0.5x better CPU
A overall improvement of ram of 10x
A pretty good next gen upgrade but the cpu + mass storage saw nearly no improvement
The XSX is compared to the X1
CPU:
about 5x better
GPU:
in raw tflops its about 9x better but the architectural improvements on RDNA2 are vast and a 12tf of RDNA2 would perform like a 16tflop GCN, so overal the improvement is 12.2x better
RAM:
This is still a unknown, leaks have put it at 16gb gddr6 @560gb/s, which would be a 2x increase in capacity and a 3.7x improvement in bandwidth
Mass storage:
It is a nvme ssd likly to be a 3gb/s read and write speeds, ms have said there xsx ssd has 40x better performance the the x1 hdd
So to sum up the next gen leap
Cpu is 5x more powerful
Gpu is 12x more powerful
Ram is 3x better
Mass storage is 40x better
So next gen is going to be a huge upgrade hardware wise.
Which is great, however as visuals get better the improvements diminish, so the improvements will be more subtle.
Lets compare the next gen "leap"
Xbox one
CPU : overall very similar in performance to the prior gen
GPU:
the x1s gpu had about 5.4x the raw performance of the 360s and if you count architecture improvements GCN brought the x1s gpu was about 7-8x more powerful
RAM:
By far the largest increase going from 512mb with 28gb/s bandwidth to 8gb @ roughly 150gb/s thats a 16x improvement in capacity and a 5x increase in bandwidth
The HDD was practically the same.
So to sum it up this gen saw
A 7-8x better gpu
A 0 - 0.5x better CPU
A overall improvement of ram of 10x
A pretty good next gen upgrade but the cpu + mass storage saw nearly no improvement
The XSX is compared to the X1
CPU:
about 5x better
GPU:
in raw tflops its about 9x better but the architectural improvements on RDNA2 are vast and a 12tf of RDNA2 would perform like a 16tflop GCN, so overal the improvement is 12.2x better
RAM:
This is still a unknown, leaks have put it at 16gb gddr6 @560gb/s, which would be a 2x increase in capacity and a 3.7x improvement in bandwidth
Mass storage:
It is a nvme ssd likly to be a 3gb/s read and write speeds, ms have said there xsx ssd has 40x better performance the the x1 hdd
So to sum up the next gen leap
Cpu is 5x more powerful
Gpu is 12x more powerful
Ram is 3x better
Mass storage is 40x better
So next gen is going to be a huge upgrade hardware wise.
Which is great, however as visuals get better the improvements diminish, so the improvements will be more subtle.
Leo_Barcellos
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I finally got over this addiction to looking for PS5 news and went to play Ori 2.
I suggest you do the same.
I suggest you do the same.
I don’t think we have reach the point where graphics reach diminishing returns. We will I think by ps7 the over 50 TF. Quote. Some of those realistic environments videos done in unreal, only death stranding come close to that this gen. Haven’t played RDR2 yet.. but that’s a stunner looking game too.
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Do u need to play ori 1 to understand and enjoy ori 2?
Leo_Barcellos
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Its a really good story, you know... but if you just want to have fun, then no.
Sosokrates
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Do you need to play ori 1 to understand the story in ori 2?
tflopsmatter
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It is as simple as this...
To get a seven times jump from the PS4 you need a 12.88TF GPU.
To have a system at least three times the TFLOPS of the PS4 Pro you need 12.6TF.
I think it's obvious that Sony would target at least 13TF.
Targeting anything lower would be irrational.
To get a seven times jump from the PS4 you need a 12.88TF GPU.
To have a system at least three times the TFLOPS of the PS4 Pro you need 12.6TF.
I think it's obvious that Sony would target at least 13TF.
Targeting anything lower would be irrational.
tflopsmatter
Banned
It doesn't matter what it's about in the end if the system isn't a true generational leap in TF and people decide that it's not worth the money and wait for the PS5 Pro or PS6.
What I care about is a system with the power to push photorealism. If I just cared about games and not graphics, the PS4 - not even the Pro - is still an excellent system.
Yea, I imagine pure graphics won't improve significantly. What is going to greatly improve are special effects, AI, physics, destructibility, environmental detail, and lighting. Can't wait bro
tflopsmatter
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I said that 15TF is probably the absolute maximum that the PS5 could be. It's very unlikely, though.
My guess is on the PS5 being at least 13TF. But if it were 14TF I'd be thrilled.
ResilientBanana
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Targeting less than 11 would be as irrational as targeting above 12. Heat plays a huge factor in this.
Where is all this graphics won’t improve? The same thing was said when ps3-ps4 and killzone looked like nothing on anything ps3 could ever do. Did you all see senua 2? Sure cgi. But you know ninja theory will pull that offs and nothing on current gen can come close to look that good. I’m impressed.
tflopsmatter
Banned
Heat isn't a big deal. They can make the case bigger or add extra cooling. If the XBox can reach 12TF it wouldn't take a whole lot more for Sony to target 13. I think the reason they have the V design is because they know their system will need an efficient cooling system.
Personally, I don't care if the PS5 is larger than the PS4 as long as it is a true generational leap.
Silver Wattle
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13tflops of GCN 1.0 tho
Insane Metal
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COVID-19 keeps on making victims
saintjules
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HeisenbergFX4
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RasAlGhoul
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Sosokrates
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Yeah while things like a statue or a house , static things wont look a lot better, dynamic things like hair, and weather will see big leaps.
So on 2nd thoughts I think the visual "leap" will overall be as big
xiaoming10086
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Anybody still remember this?
It's been half a month now.
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Matreios Raven
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Anybody still remember this?
It's been half a month now.
Covid-19 is affecting everything.
Rusco Da Vino
Member
Again the same mantra?
37 times talking about the same shit.... after checking all your posts.
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Yea. Just got an email that my classes are suspended right now
tflopsmatter
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It doesn't matter. Every generation gets a massive increase in efficiency. So comparing generations you don't consider efficiency. All that matters is the TFLOP rating.
Neo Blaster
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Looks like it wasn't a soon 'soon', but a Sony 'soon'.Anybody still remember this?
It's been half a month now.
bitbydeath
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Insane Metal
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Insane Metal
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Holy shit²³¹²³¹²³¹²³¹²³¹²
zeroeffect
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I follow Duskgolem on twitter and he accurately leaks stuff about Capcom all the time since he clearly has contacts in the company. He mentioned awhile back Konami was fishing for devs to revive this franchise. It's entirely possible they got the old Team Silent guys back to work with Kojima and struck a deal with Sony. This would be incredible if it happens.
I don't know how reputable these guys are but Duskgolem doesn't exactly lie so something was going on at Konami.
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ArcaneNLSC
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If Ariel is indeed PS5 people shouldn't forget Ariel is 16
For those who need a reminder
For those who need a reminder
nikolino840
Member
Really? Both net down? Curious..
hunthunt
Banned
Holy shit how crazy would be Sony buying Konami, thats like 20 incredible ip im pretty sure Sony would exploit and sell a lot of them lol
HawarMiran
Banned
I wouldn't play it in VR but I would watch someone doing it for sureSilent hill psvr2 bring it
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