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Mafia 2: Definitive Edition (Official launch) first 12 mins of Gameplay

Valt7786

Member
Is there no PhysX implementation on the PC version? Cause thats horsecrap if not. Immediately makes it worse than the "Classic" version.
 
Found my sweet spot for the visuals. MSAA 8x + SMAA with .09 sharpening added thru nvidia control panel, all options maxed. Vignette and CA turned off

Some areas seem to look a lot better than others, not sure every texture got the 4k treatment. At 1440p smooth as silk on 2070 Super

couple glitches like NPC floating under the street or gliding around instead of walking
 

J3nga

Member
I literally feel like I'm playing xbox 360 game, on 1440p blur everywhere, textures and cars popping in on the fly, terrible gimmicky remaster IMHO, I've recently played COD MW2 remastered and that was way better done.
 
I have never been good at taking screenshots, I just press PrtSc button and upload straight from there. So if these look like shit I apologize

Just some boring screens I grabbed just now

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mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Well this is a bit dissapointing. For some reason i was under the assumption that this was getting a more 'dramatic' remaster. This looks just the same as the PC version maxed out, worse even.

You were hoping for a remake.
 

J3nga

Member
I think 2K are making a bit of a fools of themselves. Last week they made an announcement of an announcement which got leaked right away. Out this trilogy remake is the only one valuable(I hope), Mafia II remaster is a bad joke, Mafia III is just a deluxe version named definitive, genius move here(not really). Could've just dropped banger trailer for a remake and give Mafia II for a pre-order and upgrade III to a definitive if one is owned. That would be less confusing since I see a lot of people think that those remake's screenshots are from Mafia's II "remaster".
 
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I think 2K are making a bit of a fools of themselves. Last week they made an announcement of an announcement which got leaked right away. Out this trilogy remake is the only one valuable(I hope), Mafia II remaster is a bad joke, Mafia III is just a deluxe version named definitive, genius move here(not really). Could've just dropped banger trailer for a remake and give Mafia II for a pre-order and upgrade III to a definitive if one is owned. That would be less confusing since I see a lot of people think that those remake's screenshots are from Mafia's II "remaster".

I definitely think they really could have simplified the message a little. I understand some of the confusion.
 

Esppiral

Member
I Got a 7GB update for Mafia III, already owned it, but to me the game now looks blurry as fuuuu either my memory is failing or it seems that the Xbox One X patch is gone.
 

J3nga

Member
Mafia 2 certainly looks better on my One X on a 4k tv than it does on youtube. People are straight up lying when they say it looks exactly the same as on PS3/360.
I didn't do straight comparisons but i get my x360 days vibes.
 
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maneil99

Member
Is there no PhysX implementation on the PC version? Cause thats horsecrap if not. Immediately makes it worse than the "Classic" version.
C:\Users\xxxxxxxx\Documents\My Games\Mafia II Definitive Edition\Data\profiles\76561197987426123

And in the aphex line in the xml file set it to 3
 

Hostile_18

Banned
I definitely think they really could have simplified the message a little. I understand some of the confusion.

See the way they are doing it essentially reselling Mafia 3 as is already with new tile art might be shrewd business move as its bumped the game right up the PSN list into the new releases. I bet that kind of marketing exposure would normally cost $$$$.

Is it a different trophy set? As its locked out for me rather than the option to re-download (Mafia 3 deluxe edition owner).
 

hollams

Gold Member
Strange issue on PC. I have my sound set to 5.1 in Windows and in game, but during cut scenes the voices come out of just the left speaker. During gameplay the voices come out the center as usual so it's just in cut scenes. At least I get the voices, some old threads of the original game people had to set to stereo instead of 5.1 to hear the voices in cut scenes.
 

Justin9mm

Member
It might be confusing because sometimes companies call remakes remasters. Crash N. Sane Trilogy and Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled are called remasters even though they are basically remakes with new graphics. Also the new MediEvil was called remaster in the trailers if I remember right.



Was there a day one patch?
Well you are wrong because a google search has remake plastered all over both those titles, wikipedia also calls them remakes. It's literally everywhere. If you found one trailer saying remastered then it was also an error from someone else who is confused. But it looks like there is no confusion about calling both Crash and MediEvil remakes. I don't believe the companies are confused at all.
 

Justin9mm

Member
There are no set definitions. Companies use whatever sounds best to them. Some call a remaster a remake, and the other way around.

It also doesnt fucking matter.

Also, we should just go back to calling them ports and remasters. What is this remake bullshit anyway.

Its not a remake. Its just a port with some added lightning effects.

Also those two "definitions" you posted there could also refer to the same thing. To make something again, doesnt proclude upgrading lightning or sound and graphics.
Quit while you are ahead, there are set definitions, companies do not use what they want and those definitions don't refer to the same thing in any context. Those definitions are set to what they do to the game. You yourself can look at a game and know if it was a remake or remaster by those exact definitions.

We have seen the Mafia 1 screenshots.. It's a remake. We've seen screenshots and some gameplay now of Mafia 2, it's a remaster! Look with your own eyes, not sure what is confusing about it. Also Mafia did not use whatever suited them, they said exactly what they are.
 

DonJorginho

Banned
Many thanks to the Country of Malaysia for helping me get this free of charge.

I have Pre-ordered the Mafia I Definitive Edition to amend for my sins however 😉
 

VulcanRaven

Member
Well you are wrong because a google search has remake plastered all over both those titles, wikipedia also calls them remakes. It's literally everywhere. If you found one trailer saying remastered then it was also an error from someone else who is confused. But it looks like there is no confusion about calling both Crash and MediEvil remakes. I don't believe the companies are confused at all.
Many store descriptions says that those Crash games were remastered instead of remade. PS Store says that for example. They don't use the word remake. Also Wikipedia shouldn't really be used as a source but they are called remasters there too:

It is a compilation of remasters of the first three games in the Crash Bandicoot series
 
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BTW., if you are watching comparison videos, ignore the cutscenes. It seems that these are pre-rendered and in much lower quality than the actual gameplay in 4K. Focus only on gameplay!
 

MMaRsu

Member
Quit while you are ahead, there are set definitions, companies do not use what they want and those definitions don't refer to the same thing in any context. Those definitions are set to what they do to the game. You yourself can look at a game and know if it was a remake or remaster by those exact definitions.

We have seen the Mafia 1 screenshots.. It's a remake. We've seen screenshots and some gameplay now of Mafia 2, it's a remaster! Look with your own eyes, not sure what is confusing about it. Also Mafia did not use whatever suited them, they said exactly what they are.

Show me those set definitions lmao

why cant an upgraded version of a game be a remake?

Why cant a full reimagining be called a remaster?
 

HotPocket69

Banned
The story in 3 is actually really good. Basically an 80's macho action movie, a one man army getting revenge. The problem is the gameplay sucks.

No the gameplay is fine. The guns in particular sound and feel great with beyond adequate hit animations and visual feedback. They even patched in bullet time and slomo driving a la GTAV.

The issue is that aside from the actual assassination missions where you take out the big wigs one at a time, it can get pretty repetitive, but the writing, soundtrack and style pull it along.
 

Justin9mm

Member
Show me those set definitions lmao

why cant an upgraded version of a game be a remake?

Why cant a full reimagining be called a remaster?
Are you serious bro? You realize this just doesn't apply to video games. Remake and Remaster are very different as per the definitions I previously gave you, I didn't make up those definitions, they are the proper definitions, look them up. Those definitions also answer your questions. I just realized it's the English language you are confused with not remakes and remasters of video games.

You are either trolling or really stupid.
 
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MMaRsu

Member
Are you serious bro? You realize this just doesn't apply to video games. Remake and Remaster are very different as per the definitions I previously gave you, I didn't make up those definitions, they are the proper definitions, look them up. Those definitions also answer your questions. I just realized it's the English language you are confused with not remakes and remasters of video games.

You are either trolling or really stupid.

Yes it doesnt apply to videogames because videogame bysiness is all about tricking the consumer
 

Justin9mm

Member
Many store descriptions says that those Crash games were remastered instead of remade. PS Store says that for example. They don't use the word remake. Also Wikipedia shouldn't really be used as a source but they are called remasters there too:
Ok, let me admit, I have not played Crash N. Sane Trilogy... From what I'm reading these are the same 3 games graphically enhanced. If that is correct then these are remasters which means my argument is still right. My original point was that there is no confusion between remaster and remake. I only said it was a remake because this is what you said:

It might be confusing because sometimes companies call remakes remasters. Crash N. Sane Trilogy and Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled are called remasters even though they are basically remakes with new graphics.

It's yourself that's confused because you implied this game was called a remaster but is a remake. It's the exact same 3 games so it is a remaster.. You only need to follow the English definition of remake and remaster. It's not hard.
 
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Solarstrike

Gold Member
Old Time Reality mod completely destroys this version. Good thing they left the Mafia II "Classic" in our Steam Games List. Have to use that if you are going to use the mod. Otherwise the mod won't work.

edit: Link in regards:
 
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TwoDurans

"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
It's so jarring going from the world to a cutscene in 2. I don't know why they didn't upres them.
 
Why cant a full reimagining be called a remaster?
Lets look at the definitions to see why.
Remaster - "make a new master of (a recording), typically in order to improve the sound quality."
Remake - "a film or piece of music that has been filmed or recorded again."

When applying the same logic to games it becomes clear why. A remaster is taking the original assets and code and prettying them up a little. Textures may be from higher resolution sources, there might be nice shiny new shaders and there might be slight tweaks here or there, but at its core it's still the exact same game with the same code running in the background. A remake on the other hand is where they remake the assets and code from scratch. Original assets and code may be referenced, depending on how faithful they want to be, however none will make their way into the final product.

This is why The Last Of Us Remastered or Resident Evil (REmaster) are remasters but Resident Evil (REmake), Resident Evil 2 or Crash Bandicoot N Sane Trilogy are remakes...no matter what their product pages claim.
 
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