Classicrockfan
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Ugh I was hoping for preorders to begin today....so when,August on their next event?
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Radical_3d
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Where is my DF reaction video? I need my Linneman goodness!
thurnishaleygw
Member
Loved it. From start to finish.
I was hoping to get GT7, Horizon 2 and new Ratchet and got it all. And I'm usually a big indie player, so a lot of what was on display sparked my interest.
The console design is beautiful, I am amazed, the whole design language, including the peripherals, is on point for my taste.
But as a little side note, shall we just take a minute to thank Shawn Layden for what he did for Sony by buying Insomniac Games? What a talented studio. Cannot wait to play that Ratchet & Clank.
I was hoping to get GT7, Horizon 2 and new Ratchet and got it all. And I'm usually a big indie player, so a lot of what was on display sparked my interest.
The console design is beautiful, I am amazed, the whole design language, including the peripherals, is on point for my taste.
But as a little side note, shall we just take a minute to thank Shawn Layden for what he did for Sony by buying Insomniac Games? What a talented studio. Cannot wait to play that Ratchet & Clank.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
If someone still not believing, see this screenshot I made from the HEAVILY compressed video on youtube:
That lighting on the edge of his fur on the left (his right) ear!
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Look at these crabs dude
And the ground textures in the sand pebbles with the soft shadows and lighting!
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Gamernyc78
Banned
My thoughts as well. Thy gave me what I wanted, some of what I thought was fairy dust (my beloved demon souls remake) and some good surprises (sackboy, kena, lil devils, Agothia or whatever it's called). Very happy and love the design. I hate boring boxes.
Gamernyc78
Banned
These vids, pics, look good but don't do justice. Much of these games are going to make ppl smile with awe while playing due to the graphical fidelity.
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You have a link where I can watch the 4K trailers outside of YouTube?Horizon: Forbidden West screenshots of gameplay and cutscenes
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I would love to, but nothing but vomeo at best. Doubt you'll find any. I'll show you the problem with youtube, you must pick as static as possible screenshot as it gets flooded with artifacts.
Static screenshot
For now, youtube is more than enough to have an idea, but any slight movement produces artifacts or blurrs details.
TLZ
Banned
Radical_3d
Member
This screams cross generation game.I would love to, but nothing but vomeo at best. Doubt you'll find any. I'll show you the problem with youtube, you must pick as static as possible screenshot as it gets flooded with artifacts.
Static screenshot
For now, youtube is more than enough to have an idea, but any slight movement produces artifacts or blurrs details.
Vae_Victis
Banned
the demon souls gameplay screenshots dont look too hot either. gow looked as good. now im doubting the trailer.
It looks pretty current gen to me especially compared to horizon which literally looks like a pixar movie.
I don't think you have been looking at God of War well enough if you believe it looks the same as this.
Polygon count in DS seems insane, especially for the environments. Shadows are also much softer than in God of War. Probably also uses global illumination (the trailer seems to go exactly for that when the skelly boy creates light in the tomb swinging his scythe).
Gamerguy84
Member
Vizio 4k. Rookie mistake, TV update yesterday and reset my YT settings to auto. TV selected 1440 on quality so I changed it back to 4k so problem fixed.
These trailers are gorgeous.
zaitsu
Banned
Thats true. Indie games looked like good ps4 titles, but demon souls looked really good. But horizon and ratchet ? Damn it looks like cgi whole timeI don't think you have been looking at God of War well enough if you believe it looks the same as this.
Polygon count in DS seems insane, especially for the environments. Shadows are also much softer than in God of War. Probably also uses global illumination (the trailer seems to go exactly for that when the skelly boy creates light in the tomb swinging his scythe).
TBiddy
Member
How much of the Horizon presentation was in-game?
Vae_Victis
Banned
Define in-game?
It was probably all in-engine, since you can spot little fuck-ups in the environment due to trees and waves being generated automatically by wind vectors. So it wasn't a CGI trailer like some people assumed, that's supposed to be all running in real time on a PS5.
zaitsu
Banned
Dude before whole event they stated that everything is from PS5, so unless they made CGI trailer on ps5 thats in engine
Radical_3d
Member
PS1, PS2 and PS3. Backwards compatibility?
TBiddy
Member
In-game as in real gameplay from the game.
Dude before whole event they stated that everything is from PS5, so unless they made CGI trailer on ps5 thats in engine
PS5 could probably play CGI trailers... but I was more interested in learning if it was actual gameplay or "in-engine". It was impressive, no matter what, but I suspect the game won't look nearly as good.
HushiMushi
Banned
Look at these crabs dude
But this is not gameplay though.
oh yeah, it was horrible. I thought the SSD will not allow that? How is this possible?
FranXico
Member
Nevermind that. Seriously, Sony. One USB-A and one USB-C port? Really?
HAL-01
Member
i just said look at these crabs theyre nice crabs
FranXico
Member
I didn't notice, can you give a timestamp so I can see?
Radical_3d
Member
They’re good crabs, Brent.
pasterpl
Member
I wasnt looking for it, just noticed it when re-watching the event in higher res. Look at the lights in the tunnel (timestamped).
Also noticed, just now, from 1:48 ceiling lights in the tunnel are just going crazy
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Radical_3d
Member
Seems more like an effect issue than a loading issue. Loading is for assets and textures.
HushiMushi
Banned
I would love to, but nothing but vomeo at best. Doubt you'll find any. I'll show you the problem with youtube, you must pick as static as possible screenshot as it gets flooded with artifacts.
Static screenshot
For now, youtube is more than enough to have an idea, but any slight movement produces artifacts or blurrs details.
but this is not ingame gameplay graphics.
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Deleted member 775630
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The weird thing is that when they drive towards the tunnel you can already see 4-5 lights, and then suddenly the rest pops-in.
pasterpl
Member
each time I watch it in 4K I can see more of this, there is some textures “flickering”guessing that higher quality assets are loaded, on some rocks and trees but to be fair it is very quick and hard to notice
Vae_Victis
Banned
You understand that if Sony is not the publisher, they have zero say in where the game is sold on other platforms, right?
This is like saying that if a game by Capcom comes out on XboxSX and on Steam, then Microsoft is in league with Steam against Epic.
EDIT: to clarify, I mean on which stores the game is sold on other platforms. They can obviously demand console exclusivity, but that's a different story.
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FranXico
Member
Yeah, I see now. But I also think that has nothing to do with data streaming. I also think it's just controlling the lighting to maintain the framerate.
Vae_Victis
Banned
Yep, you don't need to "load" the lights individually, even if there is a 3D model behind the light emission point it's probably the same one repeated every time. So once you loaded the first lamp, you already have all of them on RAM.
This seems an LoD issue, which may or may not be changed with further optimization.
TBiddy
Member
I do. But I suspect many of the smaller games are sponsored, in some way, by Sony.
FranXico
Member
Sure, it's a common practice, especially for small indie developers.
Rusco Da Vino
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I am the only want that really like this one? The gameplay looks sweet.
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Killer Sakoman
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Actually, the original stream did bad for these games. After watching the high quality trailers I can tell you that those graphics are almost CGI. Horizon 2 and ratchet are very impressive.Glad you have eyes, like me, like others, like many. Some have eyes and healthy vision but can't see.
Now with
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales
zaitsu
Banned
SHOW 8/10 watched in 1080p stream -> easly 9/10 if you watch 4k trailers and like Gran Turismo
- i expected three heavy hitters from first party studios - i get 4 of them, all of them presented graphic not possible this generation, lets wait for some gameplay but R&C is disney pixar kind of level, Horizon blows me away and ive never played demons souls so now its best time to do it
- PS5 exclusive outside first party also look good : Project Athia, Returnal
What I didn't like : some indie games look phenomenal, but common bugcnack ?
- i expected three heavy hitters from first party studios - i get 4 of them, all of them presented graphic not possible this generation, lets wait for some gameplay but R&C is disney pixar kind of level, Horizon blows me away and ive never played demons souls so now its best time to do it
- PS5 exclusive outside first party also look good : Project Athia, Returnal
What I didn't like : some indie games look phenomenal, but common bugcnack ?
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Deleted member 775630
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After a night's sleep looking back at the show, it was OK-ish. From an Xbox fan perspective it's a 6/10. Console reveal and next-gen games.
The games itself were to be expected and looked decent.
The games itself were to be expected and looked decent.
- Horizon looked amazing, voice-over was shit and I'm pretty sure they won't be able to captivate me in the story. The first one also had that problem. Guerilla should ask ND to help with this.
- R&C... These games have always been fun. Microsoft really should create something similar to this type of gameplay and looks. Sunset Overdrive had the potential for this.
- GT7, wasn't really impressed by this. Pretty sure Forza will outshine it easily from gameplay to visuals.
- Spiderman. I see this more as an extension on the previous game, with upgraded graphics. Pretty sure that the next Spiderman game in 4 years will be much better.
zaitsu
Banned
I sold my ps4 so I must ps5 first to play tlou2 even if MS shows something good. And I really want them to show something that makes sony work harder. But for now is only hope.
GaviotaGrande
Banned
I hate to say it but baked lighting of GTS looks superior to my eyes. Also if you watch gameplay clip there's horrendous shadow and tunnel lighting pop in, what's up with that?GT7 gameplay and cutscenes screenshots
Still this is the game of the show for me. I hope we don't have to wait too long!
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I think overall it looks nice, but not mind-blowing like other titles. Probably still work in progress.
icerock
Member
TLOU II has 96 on MC at the moment, have to say I thought it'd be a lot more divisive. Should easily settle into 90s.
Very eager to get my hands on it next week. Hopefully ND reveal Factions MP in August event, along with footage of it running on a PS5.
"All these games look like they could've been PS4 games"
Makes me wonder if any of these comments are actually genuine, or just bad-faith console-warring. Seems to be rampant across both forums.
I don't know if you played the original game, but there was plenty of gameplay in that trailer. They pulled back the camera for more FOV but that's actual gameplay of her riding the mount and the swimming under-water. Just because it doesn't have a HUD doesn't mean its not gameplay, think of Death Stranding trailer at E3 2018. It was mostly gameplay but cut up as a cinematic trailer, it's the same with Horizon II.
Very eager to get my hands on it next week. Hopefully ND reveal Factions MP in August event, along with footage of it running on a PS5.
"All these games look like they could've been PS4 games"
Makes me wonder if any of these comments are actually genuine, or just bad-faith console-warring. Seems to be rampant across both forums.
I don't know if you played the original game, but there was plenty of gameplay in that trailer. They pulled back the camera for more FOV but that's actual gameplay of her riding the mount and the swimming under-water. Just because it doesn't have a HUD doesn't mean its not gameplay, think of Death Stranding trailer at E3 2018. It was mostly gameplay but cut up as a cinematic trailer, it's the same with Horizon II.
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Coulomb_Barrier
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I think at parts, Horizon 2 already matched UE5 demo visually, it looked that good. The part at the end with the horizon and trees, look at the detail on the small beach in the distance:
4K footage.
4K footage.
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TBiddy
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It wasn't exactly my cup of tea. But as always, I remain skeptical about these showcases. Show me real gameplay running on real consoles, and we'll talk.
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