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[Men_in_Boxes]

Not really. He passed off speculation as "inside" info and then later retracted it, without qualification.

Did he pass off speculation as "inside info" or is that what people here are doing? Everything he said here falls strictly in the speculation camp, but it seems that Grubbs reputation is so sterling that people turn everything he says into gospel.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

The other thing that's funny ... is how short people's memories are. It's like this didn't exist:



We've seen a ton of fantastic material running directly on PS5 already. Does that video look "troublesome"?

Sure, but that was only
a) a limited tech demo of a yet unreleased engine that
b) was running 1440p/30 on top


in the mean time, resetera mod and proven capcom insider -after the initial attack shock left- doubled down on what he said,
and once again says that what he heard extends to other, outside of capcom devs too:



I don't see how it is wrong for reporters to investigate.
on the contrary, it is a subject that is quite important for most people interested in the new machines

 

[Calverz]

These are the same types of people who urge people not to console war. Native 4K in games is pointless so who cares.

How is it pointless?

 

[DarkMage619]

The end of this year is going to be hard on some of you.

NEVER underestimate the power of Bugsnax!

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Did he pass off speculation as "inside info" or is that what people here are doing? Everything he said here falls strictly in the speculation camp, but it seems that Grubbs reputation is so sterling that people turn everything he says into gospel.

How bout we just let the article speak for itself. My own opinion on what their intentions were is irrelevant:

Despite what they’ve heard about PS5’s third-party struggles, both our insiders seem to agree the PS5 will be more expensive than the Xbox Series X due to it’s more novel tech. According to Grubb, a $500 PS5 price tag is likely. Take these rumors with a grain of salt for now, but this all sounds plausible to me -- we saw a similar story unfold with the PS3, which had some great exclusives, but a high price tag and a lot of iffy ports.

When the article uses the phrase "both our insiders" and "all sounds plausible", should I conclude something else?

Of course it all falls into the speculation camp. Prior to an apparent thread title change, the thread claimed that PS5 devs were finding hardware troublesome, and the op states Jeff hinted devs were struggling.

Not sure what else you want me to explain. It's very straightforward. A speculation was made, it ended up being a complete paper tiger, now people point and laugh.

 

[M1chl]

I hate when dumb people talk holy shit. "Worrisome", "problematic"...get the fuck out of here.

 

[Katajx]

There is nothing to get upset about or defensive over here. Has this not been largely the case since the One X and the Pro?

 

[MCplayer]

PS5 is doing just fine. But I agree XsX needs to be released next year because no Halo or software being shown running on XsX hardware is concerning

if ps5 is having problems with multiplat then obviusly something is wrong with ps5, they can bump a bit the specs and release it next year

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

How bout we just let the article speak for itself. My own opinion on what their intentions were is irrelevant:



When the article uses the phrase "both our insiders" and "all sounds plausible", should I conclude something else?

Of course it all falls into the speculation camp. Prior to an apparent thread title change, the thread claimed that PS5 devs were finding hardware troublesome, and the op states Jeff hinted devs were struggling.

Not sure what else you want me to explain. It's very straightforward. A speculation was made, it ended up being a complete paper tiger, now people point and laugh.

Breath.

 

[MCplayer]

Wasn't this 1440p 30fps?

Still looks great either way.

that is made specificly to ps5, not really a multiplatform interactive software

 

[BlueXImpulse]

ips5 is having problems with multiplat then obviusly something is wrong with ps5, they can bump a bit the specs and release it next year

Unconfirmed rumor. It's confirmed that Halo is delayed and that we have seen no games besides ports running on XsX hardware only 3 months from launch.

 

[Mr Moose]

ips5 is having problems with multiplat then obviusly something is wrong with ps5, they can bump a bit the specs and release it next year

Did you not read the OP post? This is one guy speculating, he knows nothing. He isn't a dev and didn't ask any devs.

 

[chilichote]

Wasn't this 1440p 30fps?

Still looks great either way.

But no one knows, until Epic says so (1440p).

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Breathe.

 

[MCplayer]

Did you not read the OP post? This is one guy speculating, he knows nothing. He isn't a dev and didn't ask any devs.

and Im saying this in case this info is real.... if it aint then no problem. Jeez

 

[Mr Moose]

and Im saying this in case this info is real.... if it aint then no problem. Jeez

What info? No devs talked to him about it. He is speculating. Major 3rd party devs did not say anything, it's clickbait used to generate $ for the website, nothing more.

 

[Northeastmonk]

The air must be dense or I’m developing dementia, but they’ve said this about PS since PS2. They’ve probably said this since the SNES because developers have had more options to work with.

It’s funny because this sounds like something a University student says when they’re told to do a project they need to put effort into. Didn’t we hear about how great the PS5 was a developer standpoint months ago?

Now it’s all about random Twitter feeds and fan of survival horror games? It feels like a group of employees bad mouthing a job on their smoke break. If it was so easy, wouldn’t someone else do the job for you?

It’s like no one wants to use any new skills. People use computers everyday, but they don’t exactly know how to fix them. I think it’s a bunch of BS because this entire launch has been quiet. The people saying this crap can’t even post evidence that they’re telling the truth. Can’t Dusk Golem just buy an xbox if he’s so sure about this? It reeks of he said/she said bull sht.

The closest video game developer from where I live is over a thousand miles away from here. I might as well go ask GameStop employees if they believe all this crap because that’s about as much proof I have that it’s true.

 

[John254]

Well. If that's true, Digital Foundry will be in some deep trouble here on GAF. Sony Force will take care of it.

 

[M1chl]

Suffice to say, if this is how he approach everything, we can stop quote him on Xbox as well...

 

[LostDonkey]

Basement Radio Arcade Podcast.

B..R..A..P

BRAP!

 

[Bryank75]

Basement Radio Arcade Podcast.

B..R..A..P

BRAP!

Does Enrique do that podcast? Wasn't he a Gaf member?

 

[iamvin22]

and Im saying this in case this info is real.... if it aint then no problem. Jeez

You clearly didn't read the op. Who you quoted is right.

The source is stating their own opinions and not information from a dev. Same source knows nothing about game dev or has no knowledge of cost breakdown.

 

[Mr Moose]

Photo mode looks dope, don't it?

I personally prefer gameplay.

 

[jimbojim]

Dude, not only that.

Jeff didn't heard shit. It was all hypothetically in podcast.



I mean, really WTF???

In addition, the whole thread :

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Quotes from Grubb.

"don't know for sure"

"I'm not a developer"

"this smartshift tech could be worrisome I think"

Close the thread, this is pure bollox for the sake of clicks

 

[Bankai]

"blahblahblah don't know for sure, I'm not a developer blahblahblah"

Enough said, bye bye now.

 

[iamvin22]

Thread should be closed. Just my opinion

 

[Fake]

'PS5 is having problems. If you know something, please send me PM'.


Wow.

 

[shaddam]

What a perfect timing

 

[FunkMiller]

I believe this is what the young people refer to as PWNED.

 

[jimbojim]

And another one hypotecical example.

Big IF

Why is he doing this?

 

[reinking]

[I don't know for sure], [I'm not a developer], but this SmartShift tech is worrisome [I think].

Holy smokes. How many qualifiers does he get up to before he decides he should just not say anything?

 

[JonnyMP3]

I believe this is what the young people refer to as PWNED.

Pwned? No one's used that since 2009.
K boomer!

*realises he's also old*

 

[DeadOblivion78]

Jeff Grubb has no technical expertise whatsoever. Why anyone believe him on technical specifications on hardware that nobody has access to except people under heavy NDA is beyond me.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So let me get this straight, everything Jeff has said up to this very moment has been 100% accurate truth and gospel, but now that he's indicated sources tell him they're having trouble with early games on PS5, he's an Xbox discord FUD spreader bought and paid for directly by Phil Spencer?

Have I about summed up the current situation?

Did you even read his tweet in the OP?

 

[Md Ray]

Sure, but that was only
a) a limited tech demo of a yet unreleased engine that
b) was running 1440p/30 on top


in the mean time, resetera mod and proven capcom insider -after the initial attack shock left- doubled down on what he said,
and once again says that what he heard extends to other, outside of capcom devs too:



I don't see how it is wrong for reporters to investigate.
on the contrary, it is a subject that is quite important for most people interested in the new machines

The graphics on display in that demo justifies that 1440p. And no one would have been able to guess what resolution it was running on. I for one thought it was native 4K when watching the uncompressed footage of this demo, the temporal upsampling looks that good. We got to know about the resolution only after DF's article where the devs stated what resolution it was running on.

Anyway, regarding Dusk Gollem, that person isn't a ResetEra mod. He was, but not anymore and rightly so.

 

[Patterson]

And another one hypotecical example.

Why is he doing this?

Spreading FUD

 

[UnNamed]

This thread is 4 pages too long.

 

[DeepEnigma]

'PS5 is having problems. If you know something, please send me PM'.


Wow.

For real.

And some are tripping over themselves trying to mental gymnastics around this.

The first few pages are confirmation bias 'Gaf Wall of Shame' material.

 

[skneogaf]

Pre order cancelled!!

 

[jimbojim]

Guess what. Looks like Dusk Golem isn't a moderator anymore on ERA.

Wonder why is that?

 

[MasterCornholio]

Anyway, regarding Dusk Gollem, that person isn't a ResetEra mod. He was, but not anymore and rightly so.

I thought he was still a mod. Any idea what happened?

Guess what. Looks like Dusk Golem isn't a moderator anymore on ERA.

Wonder why is that?

Huh this just happened?

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

The graphics on display in that demo justifies that 1440p. And no one would have been able to guess what resolution it was running on. I for one thought it was native 4K when watching the uncompressed footage of this demo, the temporal upsampling looks that good. We got to know about the resolution only after DF's article where the devs stated what resolution it was running on.

Anyway, regarding Dusk Gollem, that person isn't a ResetEra mod. He was, but not anymore and rightly so.

1440p/30
and don't be so sure that "no one" could guess that is was not 4k native.

Regarding dusk, I didn't know he is no longer a mod, and actually it means nothing about his credibility, as he was talking as someone who knows and not as a "moderator".
his legitimacy was proven just a few days ago with his bold and very unlikely prediction about sf6 boss getting canned etc

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I thought he was still a mod. Any idea what happened?



Huh this just happened?

Probably fed up with the place like Zhuge, Shinobi and the like

 

[geordiemp]

that is made specificly to ps5, not really a multiplatform interactive software

Well as we have not seen any games on XSX, only PC, and rumour has it they have problems with IO and velocity architecture,. and Halo has been delayed, I guess MS have more problems than Sony.

Weep.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I didn't know he is no longer a mod, and actually it means nothing about his credibility

I mean it could. But we don't really know why he isn't a mod anymore.

 

[MadchesterManc]

Who is Jeff Grub and why am I to take notice of them?

Genuinely have no idea who they are

 

[phil_t98]

Unconfirmed rumor. It's confirmed that Halo is delayed and that we have seen no games besides ports running on XsX hardware only 3 months from launch.

This about ps not xbox? Not everything has to be about warrioring

 

[DeepEnigma]

Probably fed up with the place like Zhuge, Shinobi and the like

Those people were part of the original problem.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Those people were part of the original problem.

Oh I know they can't stand their own kind that's how fucked they all are