Panicking before anything official announced. For shame.I'm furious with MS.
I feel like I've been screwed.
This isn't console warring. I'm just upset because I REALLY do think MS make great consoles.
But this move has been really unfair to their player base. So many people bought into their promise of a grand future of exclusives especially after the Bethesda buy out etc.
This is total BS.
I'm NOT having a meltdown.
OK.
I'm having a meltdown.
F YOU MS AND YOUR DOUCHE MOVES!
the MS from back then isnt the same one from before so this wouldn't make sense. MS is even losing marketshare with windows with things like steam deck,etcPC is the platform, XBOX is the service, controllers are the hardware.
Microsoft consoles were just a 20 year trojan horse, the game begins now.
oh my
It's been working well so far *cough*You still get that good deal & get it first on Xbox, but will it be enough to get people into your ecosystem? TBD!
A bunch of MS games have always been on PC. Going in, even on the OG Xbox you should have known that at the very least, a bunch, if not all XB games, would be on PC. The XB platform was always a low cost extension of the PC platform.I'm furious with MS.
I feel like I've been screwed.
This isn't console warring. I'm just upset because I REALLY do think MS make great consoles.
But this move has been really unfair to their player base. So many people bought into their promise of a grand future of exclusives especially after the Bethesda buy out etc.
This is total BS.
I'm NOT having a meltdown.
OK.
I'm having a meltdown.
F YOU MS AND YOUR DOUCHE MOVES!
For what it's worth a possible hardware exit from MS now would only accelerate digital, not slow it down.They been the ones violating gamers for years.
Still gonna push digital on us for a lack of ownership, cause we are sheep.
That's my prediction if all this Xbox stuff turns out the way I think it will.PS5 Pro games, which are just PS5 games, will cost more than PS5 games?
the MS from back then isnt the same one from before so this wouldn't make sense. MS is even losing marketshare with windows with things like steam deck,etc
It's a prediction. I'm excited to revisit it. We already saw evidence of Spider-man 3 being split up as a soft price increase. Why make it a soft increase when the competition is gone?
Steam ate their lunch 20 years ago. the game is over now, they are royally screwed.PC is the platform, XBOX is the service, controllers are the hardware.
Microsoft consoles were just a 20 year trojan horse, the game begins now.
I think sometimes it is less about console warring or wanting to lock games to certain systems and more about how exclusive titles used to push the limits and create games you didn't get with third parties. Slimysnake kind of mentioned this. I think it is compounded by a lot of exclusive games we do get aren't really doing anything new or pushing new grounds. There is a fear that incentive to push those boundaries are decreasing. It also doesn't help when Sony or Microsoft use their exclusives and acquisitions in their marketing to drive sales. I never bought into it, but I see a lot of people did.Man, to each their own, but at this point in my life I really don't understand how or why people get in distress about more video games reaching more people. I understand exclusives are cool and all, but I think multiplatform and cross platform stuff is much cooler as it allows people to have options and preferences.
The competition is with consoles. So perhaps PS5 could increase in price without competition from Xbox, but game prices are not going to be affected. Publishers set prices based on what the market will bear, not how many consoles are in the market.It's a prediction. I'm excited to revisit it. We already saw evidence of Spider-man 3 being split up as a soft price increase. Why make it a soft increase when the competition is gone?
It absolutely was. Jim Ryan pushing back so hard against the ABK deal also heavily helped to set this all into motion. Sony should be begging him to come back.The irony is thick as hell. I certainly didn't see all this coming, but seems clear to me that the ABK acquisition was the catalyst to advance all this forward.
Steam ate their lunch 20 years ago. the game is over now, they are royally screwed.
I literally have only spent $20 to own MCC and Fable 2. Then I also have Gears 4 since I bought it on PC forever ago.This is the ultimate truth, if MS was putting games out with the quality they had from 2005-2011 then Xbox would still be doing well for itself. The complete mediocrity of their library since then is what is leading to now, who the fuck cares about the Xbox library save for Forza Horizon at this point.
Almost every acquisition was mistimed or was butchered by MS management. Rare went to shit after Kinect, Obsidian lost most of their prime talent to begin with (which is why Avowed looks so bleh), Bethesda's main team hasn't had a good game since Fallout 4 (which was already divisive), and they are basically giving up shortly after acquiring Activision and bleeding most of its talent out with layoffs already.
Microsoft can genuinely go fuck themselves at this point, my guess is that they last till the end of the gen with Xbox and then once PS6 is the main focus they formally announce going full third-party. My only hope is someone steps up to compete with Sony, and I don't think it's going to be Nintendo. I could see Apple or maybe even Valve (like a Steam Deck but as a full console) step in, but who else?
This is Xbox. Okay great... But what is Xbox to begin with ? Anybody have some clue around here ?
It absolutely was. Jim Ryan pushing back so hard against the ABK deal also heavily helped to set this all into motion. Sony should be begging him to come back.
If the only place to get these games is on one console, why wouldn't you push the price up? It's easy to test the waters and reverse if the pushback is enough to hurt sales.The competition is with consoles. So perhaps PS5 could increase in price without competition from Xbox, but game prices are not going to be affected. Publishers set prices based on what the market will bear, not how many consoles are in the market.
that's how bad the situation was on PC. MS dismissed the gaming industry.Agree, how everyone just let a game developer come in and completely own the storefront to games on PC still baffles me to this day.
They can't beat Sony and Nintendo after 20 years and billions of dollars. You think they have a fucking prayer of even touching Steam?PC is the platform, XBOX is the service, controllers are the hardware.
Microsoft consoles were just a 20 year trojan horse, the game begins now.
They can't beat Sony and Nintendo after 20 years and billions of dollars. You think they have a fucking prayer of even touching Steam?
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If the only place to get these games is on one console, why wouldn't you push the price up? It's easy to test the waters and reverse if the pushback is enough to hurt sales.
Steam already detects Xbox, PS5 and Switch Pro controllers. Valve will use Xbox's own controller against them.Ace up their sleeve... Microsoft can make the one thing Valve can't... a good controller.
Based on what?I REALLY do think MS make great consoles
You have to understand this is another huge win for the Xbox. 2026 is gonna be the year!
$70 is the expectation. They can set a new expectation with a new console and no competition to keep them honest. Also, PC is not an option for many people to play high-end games. It's very expensive to break into now.It doesn't matter. PS5 is the only place you can get Spider-man 2 and yet it is the same $70 base price as other games. And even if systems were a factor, PC is still an option.
You're not alone OP, your good ol friend Klob also packed it all in.
He also posted this on other site
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LMAO, it's a complete collapse.
Steam already detects Xbox, PS5 and Switch Pro controllers. Valve will use Xbox's own controller against them.
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Xbox fans got played like a fiddle.
TimDog's meltdown has been so legendary that his family should be contacted to check on him from time to time. Dude has gone fucking nuts.Xbox fans got played like a fiddle.
I guess Microsoft will have to default to the old reliable.... releasing high quality software!!!
It really is over, isn't it?