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Phil Spencer: announcement this week

who has that clip of Colt saying "the console war is over" in a goofy way after ABK purchase? Turns out he was right
The purchase of ABK could end up being the biggest Trojan horse in console war history. These guys spent years saying that Xbox won by being able to buy and finally having exclusives, only for Mama Microsoft to come and say she wants money now. Hilarious!
If this were the script of a series, I would say the story is too contrived, hard to believe.
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Wait..................WAIT! Are folks sincerely telling themselves that Starfield wasn't a major for exclusive for Xbox in 2023??????????????? o_O
Kobe Bryant Yes GIF
 
I absolutely think Microsoft are making changes to their business model (good, they need to), but the fantasy that they are out of control and crashing and burning seems… fantastical to me.
They were never in control, and they were never high enough to crash and burn. That's the issue. The plane has never even taken off.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
So how long will it take Sony to turn evil again without competition?

None of the rumors are suggesting Microsoft is leaving the console space. Some are actually saying they are adding new hardware with a handheld device. Sounds like Sony will have competition for quite a while.
 
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Topher

Identifies as young
You know you are talking to brick walls and many who actually started those rumors that MS is leaving the hardware space, right?

Yeah....I know. People tend to gravitiate towards the extreme. Folks need to just step back and allow the possibility that this shit ain't going to be nearly as world-ending as some are making it out to be. It's kind of like trying to fly a kite in a hurricane though so I get your point.
 
I don't know why you would wait a week when everyone go crazy for saying that it's just Hi-Fi Rush coming to others consoles and for the rest it will be case by case.

It should be something bigger.
 
They were never in control, and they were never high enough to crash and burn. That's the issue. The plane has never even taken off.
Understand and respect that you think that, but...

The Microsoft CEO stated very recently (January 17) that they were excited by and happy with their position in the gaming space post ABK closure, and that Microsoft was 'doubling down' on video games just a couple of months ago (October 24).

You could say that's just spin, and I suppose it could be, but the fact of them investing $69bn (the largest investment in the history of gaming) AND making recent public declarations suggests not. It absolutely suggests they are all in to compete. I don't think anyone, even Microsoft would deny they wish they were in a better market share position right now, but what I'm struggling to understand is the certainty that they are withdrawing, and that 'it's over' based on nameless... I'm not sure you can even call them leaks tbh... versus the more rational conclusion that the unprecedented spending in this area from the one of the world's largest corporations is more indicative of a determination to throw money at the problem rather than pull their horns in.

If this was a debate about whether that is going to be good money after bad I'd think it had more validity, but this all just seems like either a fanboy nightmare or wet dream, depending on which color 'rat' you are. None of us know, but if you were playing the odds surely one is a safer bet than the other? And the inevitability of either a wet dream or a nightmare is ultimately that you wake up and realize it wasn't real after all.
 
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cireza

Member
None of the rumors are suggesting Microsoft is leaving the console space.
Indeed. However when you look at how things are turning out here, the misinformation is all over the place and you could easily believe that Microsoft are going full third party and won't make any hardware anymore. No wonder people get confused.
 
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Bernardougf

Member
Considering the state of your posts you're really not in a position to be questioning the maturity of other people here.

Just because Xbox are throwing their proverbial toys out of the pram, it doesn't mean you need to as well.
The best meltdowns are the ones so subtle that even the person dosent realise its happening inside their safespace of delusion and denial
 
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I find it surprising how there are so many different people dedicated exclusively to talking about Xbox on social media and YouTube. Seriously, it seems like there are 3 or 4 new names popping up every time. Is there really that much market for it? Does it even make any money? Or is it just a bunch of people still trying to have some success? As always, it seems like there are more people on the internet talking about Xbox than actually buying it.
 

Ar¢tos

Member
I don't know why you would wait a week when everyone go crazy for saying that it's just Hi-Fi Rush coming to others consoles and for the rest it will be case by case.

It should be something bigger.
To give time for people to accept the idea and be already expecting the news.
They are letting it simmer in fanboys minds, hoping they reach the state of acceptance by next week.
Even if they go full 3rd party, they'll never announce that. They will start by saying it's only a few selected small titles and when Xbox gamers get used to it, they start slowly opening the flood gates.
 

Bernardougf

Member
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking Starfield is a major exclusive, but keep peddling
Well the narrative in the beginning of the week was that starfield going to ps5 was instantly making it a good game... now has shifted to instantly making it an AA title of little importance to Ms/Xbox and its fans.

Do please keep up.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
Understand and respect that you think that, but...

The Microsoft CEO stated very recently (January 17) that they were excited by and happy with their position in the gaming space, and that Microsoft was 'doubling down' on video games just a couple of months ago (October 24).

You could say that's just spin, and I suppose it could be, but the fact of them investing $69bn (the largest investment in the history of gaming) AND making recent public declarations suggests not. It absolutely suggests they are all in to compete. I don't think anyone, even Microsoft would deny they wish they were in a better market share position right now, but what I'm struggling to understand is the certainty that they are withdrawing, and that 'it's over' based on nameless... I'm not sure you can even call them leaks tbh... versus the more rational conclusion that the unprecedented spending in this area from the one of the world's largest corporations is more indicative of a determination to throw money at the problem rather than pull their horns in.

If this was a debate about whether that is going to be good money after bad I'd think it had more validity, but this all just seems like either a fanboy nightmare or wet dream, depending on which color 'rat' you are. None of us know, but if you were playing the odds surely one is a safer bet than the other? And the inevitability of either a wet dream or a nightmare is ultimately that you wake up and realize it wasn't real after all.

The problem here is that rumors started flying about multiple well-known Xbox franchises being ported to PlayStation including Starfield, Halo, Indiana Jones and Gears of War. These painted a not so rosy picture of an Xbox console nealry devoid of any exclusives. This, naturally, is leading people to believe that the demise of the console is inevitable. Fact is we know nothing truthfully as far as what games are going multiplat so these dire predictions are extremely premature, even if understandable due to Microsoft's reluctance to address the rumors.

Indeed. However when you look at how things are turning out here, the misinformation is all over the place and you could easily believe that Microsoft are going full third party and won't make any hardware anymore. No wonder people get confused.

I was typing my reponse above at the same time you posted this. Agree 100%. We are now at the point where "insiders" are accusing other "insiders" of backtracking or not knowing anything in the first place. This is a whirldwind of bullshit right now. It's going to be a tough week for some, but I think a lot of folks are going to feel really silly when all is known. Myself included, as I was buying into what was being thrown around as well.
 

cireza

Member
I was typing my reponse above at the same time you posted this. Agree 100%. We are now at the point where "insiders" are accusing other "insiders" of backtracking or not knowing anything in the first place. This is a whirldwind of bullshit right now. It's going to be a tough week for some, but I think a lot of folks are going to feel really silly when all is known. Myself included, as I was buying into what was being thrown around as well.
It will most certainly not be the spectacular ending many have been prophesying.
 

SolarFry

Member
People hoping for microsoft to go third party and/or stop making consoles will be very, very disappointed. They've just acquired Activision for 70billion and it's a chump change for them. Something Sony can only dream of being able to do.

If I was a betting man, I'd say Sony will cease to exist long before microsoft, even in the video games space.
 
The problem here is that rumors started flying about multiple well-known Xbox franchises being ported to PlayStation including Starfield, Halo, Indiana Jones and Gears of War. These painted a not so rosy picture of an Xbox console nealry devoid of any exclusives. This, naturally, is leading people to believe that the demise of the console is inevitable. Fact is we know nothing truthfully as far as what games are going multiplat so these dire predictions are extremely premature, even if understandable due to Microsoft's reluctance to address the rumors.
Yeah I hear you, I get where it came from, and perhaps they don't freak me out quite much as I'm not an exclusives champion (I'd rather be able to make a choice of hardware, and play everything in one place) but there seems to be no rational processing of the rumors or consideration that they might be just that.

It's the internet - anyone can say anything - and this complete meltdown (from both sides) on unsubstantiated rumors not leaks seems extreme even for 2024. My mum, god bless her, drilled into me from a young age 'don't cry before you're hurt'.

It's exposed some of the most toxic fanboys on both sides though, so if nothing else comes from it that's probably a net positive.
 

Sushi_Combo

Member
People hoping for microsoft to go third party and/or stop making consoles will be very, very disappointed. They've just acquired Activision for 70billion and it's a chump change for them. Something Sony can only dream of being able to do.

If I was a betting man, I'd say Sony will cease to exist long before microsoft, even in the video games space.
So do we wait for next year for Sony to get decimated? I thought this was the year of Microsoft.
 
People hoping for microsoft to go third party and/or stop making consoles will be very, very disappointed. They've just acquired Activision for 70billion and it's a chump change for them. Something Sony can only dream of being able to do.

If I was a betting man, I'd say Sony will cease to exist long before microsoft, even in the video games space.

God I love it when they resist
 

GHG

Gold Member
People hoping for microsoft to go third party and/or stop making consoles will be very, very disappointed. They've just acquired Activision for 70billion and it's a chump change for them. Something Sony can only dream of being able to do.

If I was a betting man, I'd say Sony will cease to exist long before microsoft, even in the video games space.

Can someone clue me in to the significance of 2017 and why so many of these kinds of accounts originate from that year?
 

Bernardougf

Member
People hoping for microsoft to go third party and/or stop making consoles will be very, very disappointed. They've just acquired Activision for 70billion and it's a chump change for them. Something Sony can only dream of being able to do.

If I was a betting man, I'd say Sony will cease to exist long before microsoft, even in the video games space.
The only people very very disappointed is going to be the fanboys that were expecting xbox to keep their flagship games exclusives ... but "flagship game" as it seems is going to be decided on a case by case basis from now on depending of the platform it releases.
 

Sleepwalker

Member
My prediction is that next week that sun will set and then rise as normal and everything will be alright. Ms gonna do what they gotta do and in the end it doesn't really affect any of our lives.
 

Mephisto40

Member
People hoping for microsoft to go third party and/or stop making consoles will be very, very disappointed. They've just acquired Activision for 70billion and it's a chump change for them. Something Sony can only dream of being able to do.

If I was a betting man, I'd say Sony will cease to exist long before microsoft, even in the video games space.
Wow, possibly the biggest reach so far, congrats
 
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