Support NeoGAF

[Robot Carnival]

these are all great. I'm just waiting for hammer and dual blades now.

 

[The Skull]

Come on Capcom, show me the Charge Blade!

 

[Little Mac]

FINALLY!

For some reason ... this weapon calls out to me.

 

[bbeach123]

That hit sound ... Yuck .

 

[Danjin44]

 

[Skifi28]

Been waiting for this....Oh boy

 

[TheKratos]

Hope we get a release daye on gamescon

 

[Danjin44]

Hope we get a release daye on gamescon

Also hoping for a demo. I spend unhealthy amount in MH demos, even more than some full games.

 

[Comandr]

CB head has a motif of …webs, huh? Interesting.

 

[Pejo]

My god that weapon is fucking gorgeous. CB is one of my 3 weapons I'm interested in for Wilds. I plan to give it a good number of hunts to see if I can get back into it. (before failing to and falling back on my true love, Switch Axe)

 

[The Skull]

CB head has a motif of …webs, huh? Interesting.

Could be the rakna kadaki weapon maybe.

 

[Comandr]

Could be the rakna kadaki weapon maybe.

A compelling argument. The weapon and armor look completely different from Rakna’s gear in Rise.

I suspect that

1) we will see very few rise exclusive monsters, if any

2) this is a completely new temnoceran. One perhaps not indigenous to the desert region. The furry motifs in the weapon design make me think this is a woolly spider of some kind. Then there’s the flower motif. Mmm… perhaps this particular monster camouflages itself among giant flowers and strikes when prey comes close.

 

[The_hunter]

I played CB in World, feels almost like a DMC moveset to me.

 

[Wooxsvan]

Rurikhan
on his cast today said a few things
-he will be doing live stream Aug 21
-allowed to show 1 quest (hunt). not allowed to show another (story related)
-another session later (22 or 23? ) where he will allowed to record his playtime
-build will not be a demo build but a specific local gamescom build.
-its his opinion they will not be releasing a demo, for us pleebs, anytime soon

 

[Danjin44]

-its his opinion they will not be releasing a demo, for us pleebs, anytime soon

 

[Wooxsvan]

for reference, if its anything like MH World rollout (which these weapon videos have been) then we are looking at December.

A limited demo, exclusive to PlayStation Plus members, was offered from December 9–12, 2017; the demo included practice areas for all fourteen weapon types, and three hunting quests that can be completed alone in solo play or using the networked cooperative support planned for the full game. Players that completed the three quests received bonus in-game items and a cosmetic item when the main game was released.[39] A second demo period for PlayStation 4, no longer requiring PlayStation Plus, ran between December 22–26, 2017,[40] and a final beta period, adding one additional quest, ran from January 19–22, 2018.[15]

 

[Comandr]

for reference, if its anything like MH World rollout (which these weapon videos have been) then we are looking at December.

A limited demo, exclusive to PlayStation Plus members, was offered from December 9–12, 2017; the demo included practice areas for all fourteen weapon types, and three hunting quests that can be completed alone in solo play or using the networked cooperative support planned for the full game. Players that completed the three quests received bonus in-game items and a cosmetic item when the main game was released.[39] A second demo period for PlayStation 4, no longer requiring PlayStation Plus, ran between December 22–26, 2017,[40] and a final beta period, adding one additional quest, ran from January 19–22, 2018.[15]

I think that's a very likely scenario.

 

[darrylgorn]

Waiting for the only weapon that matters (dual blades).

 

[Icymanipulator]

I feel like some hit effects on helmsplitter for LS were like… missing? Looks a bit off to me

 

[Pejo]

I feel like some hit effects on helmsplitter for LS were like… missing? Looks a bit off to me

I think a lot of the effects aren't finished yet. Charge Blade's phials were barely even present.

 

[Danjin44]

I feel like some hit effects on helmsplitter for LS were like… missing? Looks a bit off to me

It looks like the person playing missed but then there is follow attack after helmsplitter.

I think a lot of the effects aren't finished yet. Charge Blade's phials were barely even present.

That could be too since we are long way off to release.

 

[GymWolf]

Waiting for hammer and lance

 

[KyoZz]

Gameplay seems fun (MHW was my first MH and I liked it) but damn this new game is ugly as fuck. Why does it looks like a Switch game?

 

[Skifi28]

Waiting for hammer and lance

Hopefully tomorrow

 

[Danjin44]

Gameplay seems fun (MHW was my first MH and I liked it) but damn this new game is ugly as fuck. Why does it looks like a Switch game?

What?

You guys can't be this fucking blind.

 

[KyoZz]

What?

You guys can't be this fucking blind.

Yeah, it's quite ugly on every videos in this thread presenting the weapons. Maybe saying Switch was a bit too much but still, big empty desert with ugly ass filter. I'm not saying the game will be bad (in fact it's probably gonna be very good) yet I can't help but feel disappointed by the presentation. The screenshot you put is probably the only thing "ok" I've seen from this game. Not amazing or beautiful, just ok.

What's impressive with those (direct feed) screenshots, you tell me:

Compare it to a 6 years old game (!):



In MHW it just seems so flat and empty. Again I'm not saying the game will be bad but you can't tell me we shouldn't expect more. I was waiting to see more biome from MHW but so far it's the same shit over and over.

 

[Danjin44]

Yeah, it's quite ugly on every videos in this thread presenting the weapons. Maybe saying Switch was a bit too much but still, big empty desert with ugly ass filter. I'm not saying the game will be bad (in fact it's probably gonna be very good) yet I can't help but feel disappointed by the presentation. The screenshot you put is probably the only thing "ok" I've seen from this game. Not amazing or beautiful, just ok.

What's impressive with those (direct feed) screenshots, you tell me:

Dud if you played any MH games before you know we are going the different biomes, we are going get jungle area, snow area and volcano area, just like all MH games.

In MHW it just seems so flat and empty. Again I'm not saying the game will be bad but you can't tell me we shouldn't expect more. I was waiting to see more biome from MHW but so far it's the same shit over and over.

Most if you guys think if the game is not "colourful" that mean it has bad graphics, that just not how it works.

 

[KyoZz]

Dud if you played any MH games before you know we are going the different biomes, we are going get jungle area, snow area and volcano area, just like all MH games.

I hope they will look better than the desert area! And as I said I'm not an expert of the series, I just played MHW.

Most if you guys think if the game is not "colourful" that mean it has bad graphics, that just not how it works.

Ok... Is any criticism tolerated? Can I speak my opinion without getting put in a box with trolls? You can think it looks good, more power to you for real but so far in MY opinion, it looks ugly and flat. I don't need it to be "colorful" or whatever (also this screenshot is clearly muted as that's not how RDR II looks).

 

[Danjin44]

Ok... Is any criticism tolerated? Can I speak my opinion without getting put in a box with trolls? You can think it looks good, more power to you for real but so far in MY opinion, it looks ugly and flat. I don't need it to be "colorful" or whatever (also this screenshot is clearly muted as that's not how RDR II looks).

If you dont like its art direction thats fine, thats your taste but looking like Switch game?....WTF!? I'm sick of all this hyperbolic BS of "looking like PS2 games" or looking like Switch game".

 

[KyoZz]

If you dont like its art direction thats fine, thats your taste but looking like Switch game?....WTF!? I'm sick of all this hyperbolic BS of "looking like PS2 games" or looking like Switch game".

No, I'm precisely not talking about the art direction. I'm specifically talking about the technical aspect of what we've seen so far. Flat and empty is how I would describe it best, as I said earlier.

As for the Switch thing, you shouldn't get worked out by this simple comment, and it's definitely not important. Yet it's eluding the rest of my post in your response.

 

[Danjin44]

Flat and empty is how I would describe it best, as I said earlier.

What do you mean by empty? How is this empty?

I dont know what do you expect to desert look like?

 

[KyoZz]

What do you mean by empty? How is this empty?

I dont know what do you expect to desert look like?

Mate, if you don't see what I mean by FLAT and empty (it's a combination of both) compared to the 10 minutes video I linked, then nothing I can say will convince you. So let's keep it there.

It's honestly tiring to get attacked as soon as we made a bit of a negative comment. FFS is it still possible to say something negative without getting jumped at by some defense force?

 

[Danjin44]

It's honestly tiring to get attacked as soon as we made a bit of a negative comment.

Attacked? Attacked how? Did I call you names? did I attack you personally? This is gaming forum we reply to agree or disagree.

 

[NanaMiku]

In MHW it just seems so flat and empty. Again I'm not saying the game will be bad but you can't tell me we shouldn't expect more. I was waiting to see more biome from MHW but so far it's the same shit over and over.

Clearly, you only saw the weapon trailer.

They usually stay on 1 biome for earlier trailers. MH World was also like this

 

[KyoZz]

Attacked? Attacked how? Did I call you names? did I attack you personally? This is gaming forum we reply to agree or disagree.

Yeah because I can't say anything bad without you getting on my back despite providing examples and pictures of what a good looking desert can be. And you cherry-pick but don't really respond with any strong argument in my opinion. Like my previous post, you just took that "attacked" part but not responded to the pictures I posted or anything else I've said.

I would gladly be proven wrong and we still have a lot of time before the release so... time will tell I guess.

Clearly, you only saw the weapon trailer.

They usually stay on 1 biome for earlier trailers. MH World was also like this

This is indeed better, but still I'm really not impressed. I can't put my finger on it but something looks off.

 

[Skifi28]

but still I'm really not impressed. I can't put my finger on it but something looks off.

That's cool and all, but this is the weapon showcase thread. I'm sure you can find tons of other Wilds threads (most of them) where people whine about the visuals belonging to the PS2 or something and post pictures of other random games. Let's not do it here as well.

 

[MagiusNecros]

I dont know what do you expect to desert look like?

Like this obviously

 

[KyoZz]

That's cool and all, but this is the weapon showcase thread.

That's fair.

Like this obviously

No, more like what I posted earlier. Won't be hard to find but I guess it was more fun to troll right?

 

[MagiusNecros]

No, more like what I posted earlier. Won't be hard to find but I guess it was more fun to troll right?

Just desserts. But Deserts typically are empty although I'd say the mob density does much to alleviate this and makes the zones feel alive and lived in. A bit premature before the game is released to make a conclusion I would think.
------------

Moving on so far the weapon showcases I feel are shallow and don't really delve into the finer details on how the weapons work and really just showcases the Wound mechanic.

Weapon overviews done by Arekkz Gaming is what I would consider a showcase.

Thus far the game looks great but I'm not seeing very interesting fights in the long term. These weapon changes feel like they could of just been added in a patch for World.

I'm gonna get Wilds for sure but to this day I feel as far as the franchise evolving the best one to date is still MH4G. Crazy.

 

[Danjin44]

Moving on so far the weapon showcases I feel are shallow and don't really delve into the finer details on how the weapons work and really just showcases the Wound mechanic.

Weapon overviews done by Arekkz Gaming is what I would consider a showcase.

Thus far the game looks great but I'm not seeing very interesting fights in the long term. These weapon changes feel like they could of just been added in a patch for World.

I'm gonna get Wilds for sure but to this day I feel as far as the franchise evolving the best one to date is still MH4G. Crazy.

It was same with MH World and videos were actually shorter.

 

[MagiusNecros]

It was same with MH World and videos were actually shorter.

Yeah I think there is more details to come this stuff is more a teaser.

 

[Comandr]

Mate, if you don't see what I mean by FLAT and empty (it's a combination of both) compared to the 10 minutes video I linked, then nothing I can say will convince you. So let's keep it there.

It's honestly tiring to get attacked as soon as we made a bit of a negative comment. FFS is it still possible to say something negative without getting jumped at by some defense force?

Bro just take the L on this one. Danjin44 has shown over and over that the area we have been shown so far is 1) not flat 2) not empty 3) looks immensely better than anything the switch could handle, and it's not even close. Furthermore, three of your four example photos DO look like areas we have seen. You are making the case against yourself.

Monster Hunter games always have very, very diverse areas. We have only seen one tiny slice of this pie so far. Be patient.

On topic: Wouldn't it be hilarious if they showed all of these weapon showcase videos ... all leading up to Gamescom... And then they had a new trailer revealing two new weapons? I think that would be really fun.

 

[Comandr]

So I was watching the HH video again at 1/4 speed, as you do, and I couldn't help but be taken by the detailing here in this armor set and weapon.

For the uninitiated, this is the Bone Armor set. It's actually a really great set for HH. Here are some fresh screens of that exact set in World.

I'd like to bring your attention to the detail on the pauldrons (shoulder guards). In World, they appear to be some sort of leather with fur accents. The leather is kind of muddied up close and doesn't hold up to scrutiny. The fur lining appears to be using a fur shell technique, common in World. It's the same technique they use to achieve fur on almost everything.

Now looking at the same area in Wilds, the difference couldn't be more obvious. The leather part is entirely replaced in a higher detailed fur covering. At first blush, I thought it was a card technique. Many many thin, individual hairs being rendered, similar to how trees or traditional (head) hair is rendered. But the more I look at it, it actually looks like the fur on the Wilds' set has some thiccness. Could it actually be geometry? That would be crazy. That's like, thousands and thousands of polygons just to render the fur on this armor set. It does appear that the fur squashes and stretches and moves in real time with the player.


This is the sort of detail minutia that gives me powerful hope for this game. People say it looks like crap and I'm like bro capgods are modeling individual hairs on this armor set. All the details on the weapons, the armor, the environment and monsters... Any given frame has many many thooouuuusaands of polygons being rendered down to the tiniest thing. I really do believe these consoles are going to be pushed to their limits to render them.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

Is seems you do another attack after Helm Splitter or am I seeing it wrong.

Looks like it to me, unless it's part of the move. Maybe spirit helm breaker is now truly a single slash and instead of the extra hits that accompany it, it's actually another part of the attack?

 

[Danjin44]

Looks like it to me, unless it's part of the move. Maybe spirit helm breaker is now truly a single slash and instead of the extra hits that accompany it, it's actually another part of the attack?

That could very well be, you one slash with helmbreaker and with successful hit you do follow up attack.

 

[Dr_Salt]

I think a lot of the effects aren't finished yet. Charge Blade's phials were barely even present.

I don't think they would release these with unfinished effects. They have toned down the weapon effects from world for whatever reason. The weapon trailers from World look alot better.

 

[Danjin44]

Hammer time!

 

[NanaMiku]

Hammer time!

Dang, I just about to post lol

I like the hammer design

 

[Skifi28]

 

[Danjin44]

I like the hammer design