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PlayStation 5 Pro Unboxed, 16.7 TFLOPs GPU Compute Confirmed
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Ugh…. that teraflop word being tossed around like a willing hooker again!
That said, the specs are a nice upgrade from the base, so that’s good.
That said, the specs are a nice upgrade from the base, so that’s good.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
skit_data
Member
I find it kinda strange they claim that dual issue stuff doesn't really apply to games, because I saw some Bend Studio dev tweet the other day more or less saying it's integral to how PSSR works.
Gonna try to find the tweet in question
Edit: Ex dev, it seems. Don't know how credible he is.
Edit 2: Might as well add the account is fake af, ignore the tweet
Gonna try to find the tweet in question
Edit: Ex dev, it seems. Don't know how credible he is.
Edit 2: Might as well add the account is fake af, ignore the tweet
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Little Chicken
Member
Why did I keep repeatedly seeing "30+TF" thrown around 
kevboard
Member
then it's very weird that they list the specs without dual issue fp32, and without even mentioning it.
maybe it is only used for PSSR?
Why did I keep repeatedly seeing "30+TF" thrown around
because it's RDNA3, and RDNA3 GPUs usually get listed with dual issue FP32 included in the TFLOPS numbers. a ~33 TFLOPS RDNA3 GPU is around as powerful in practice as a ~16.5 TFLOPS RDNA2 GPU (due to architecture improvements slightly more powerful probably).
because RDNA2 doesn't have dual issue support, the numbers seem very confusing when compared directly.
Sony opted to list the specs without dual issue in this manual it seems, even tho the GPU should support it since it is RDNA3
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GHG
Gold Member
Firstly, that profile is fake as shit.
Secondly, that's not how teraflop calculations work. FP16 and FP32 calculations have been around long before AI upscaling was a thing.
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rickybooby87
Member
Why did I keep repeatedly seeing "30+TF" thrown around
It's actually 50.1 TF (16.7 + 33.4)
/s
Judge Magister
Member
Please don't do this at home.
D
Deleted member 848825
Unconfirmed Member
Rich comes across as enthusiastic as me going to my dentist.
Power Pro
Member
Please don't do this at home.
Senua
Member
Please don't do this at home.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Please don't do this at home.
panda-zebra
Member
Really lets his feels flow when it comes to unboxing a playstation.Please don't do this at home.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
richard used to be a dreamcast fanboy hence the animosity for playstation
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Beats my RTX 4070.
Already saving up for a 5000 card. Where are they?
Already saving up for a 5000 card. Where are they?
Zathalus
Member
Probably out in February next year. But the 4070 competes quite well with the Pro so I wouldn’t worry on that front.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
I don't understand the FP32 Float metric. I've seen double the PS5PRO and I've also seen that you have to half it in other reports.
tommib
Banned
Every villain has an origin story.richard used to be a dreamcast fanboy hence the animosity for playstation
diffusionx
Gold Member
Because ray tracing is expensive, and requires specialized hardware. When you see those outlandish numbers it is because they are saying that the GPU is doing the equivalent of that number of the Ray tracking hardware didn't exist.Why did I keep repeatedly seeing "30+TF" thrown around
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Thanks for the explanation.
Zathalus
Member
Don’t really bother with it when it comes to AMD, it’s rather useless for gaming. PS5 Pro will perform like a 16.7 TF card should. Nvidia also kind of cheats with the TF system, but it’s not quite the same as AMD.
Regardless of all that a PS5 Pro would probably perform between a 7700 XT and 7800 XT when it comes to regular rasterization depending on the game. A 4070 is the closest Nvidia equivalent but would probably be slightly faster in the majority of games.
Bry0
Member
He’s just so excited to get to the Ps5 pro that he can’t help himself.
Because it's 33.4TF Dual Issue ComputeWhy did I keep repeatedly seeing "30+TF" thrown around
You not understanding how it works doesn't change it from being 33.4TF Dual Issue Compute.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
Why did I keep repeatedly seeing "30+TF" thrown around
TF are meaningless without context, you should have realized that by now from Series X! a 12TF machine that failed to outperform a 10TF one.
OT: PS5Pro is actually a good chunk smaller than OG PS5
SweetTooth
Gold Member
richard used to be a dreamcast fanboy hence the animosity for playstation
Oh, ahahahaaahahahaaa
That's explains everything, he must be in pain
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Please don't do this at home.
Bloody Crow of Cainhurst
Member
chokotoureiki
Member
I love that its smaller and judging from how he's carrying the unit, it seems lighter. Very surprising yet impressive that Sony was able to make all those modifications.
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Codeblew
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Bend, Oregon.I thought Bend was in the US.
And they can't even spell Smith.
Edit: There's another one lol
x.com
x.com
Bend, Oregon - Wikipedia
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Mr Moose
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Rocco Schiavone
Member
Have they improved the battery life from the dualsense??
FrankWza
Member
His girl says please do this at home. Only box he ever tore up in his life.Please don't do this at home.
Zathalus
Member
It’s literally the figure listed in the manual.
Tarnpanzer
Member
Why did I keep repeatedly seeing "30+TF" thrown around
Different calc. method that started with RDNA3. If you use calc. method for RDNA3/4 it would indeed be double the TF. You cannot compare these TF numbers in regards of performance.
Sony stating 16,7TF* for PS5 Pro(RDNA4) is correct performance wise vs. PS5 Standard(RDNA2), but mathematically correct would be ~33TF.
*Makes sence, since Sony stated ~45% performance increase in Raserization for Pro vs.Standard.
Check out this source:
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Please don't do this at home.
Why? the unboxing experience for the PS5 and the PS5 Pro is fucking atrocious.
They should take note from the Series X, that thing is awesome to unbox, shame it's practically dead.
Zathalus
Member
It may very well be that Sony didn’t include dual compute in the design of the Pro GPU as they saw no need for it. They did a similar thing with the PS4 Pro, when the GPU had select features from Polaris and Vega but not all.
But in the end it really doesn’t matter, 16.7 TF gives an accurate picture of the expected performance from the GPU.
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kevboard
Member
dual issue has never shown to have any tangible benefits for games.
which Sony also clearly thinks, which is why they officially list it without dual issue
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HeisenbergFX4
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saintjules
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Top_Gunner_82
Member
Possibly they could have dropped the 32-bit instructions of VOPD? Similarly to how they use the Mendocino variant of Zen2 with the lower performance FPU to save a couple mm² of die space. They haven't really resulted in much in the PC space in terms of performance in either gaming or compute.
We know they have them for lower precision modes and list them there in reveal, e.g. 67TF FP16 and 300 TOPs (likely sparse int8) so it'd be pretty weird not to do the same with the FP32 number.
We know they have them for lower precision modes and list them there in reveal, e.g. 67TF FP16 and 300 TOPs (likely sparse int8) so it'd be pretty weird not to do the same with the FP32 number.