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which would cost more to build
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T4keD0wN
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Robocop because it of it requiring a human component, "resurrected" of all things, if we were any near to bring people back from the dead i am pretty sure wed all hear the news by now.
Fake skin and what is basically a robot are far more doable. I bet we could build one that passes the durability and the first glance test (without the AI functionality) today.
Fake skin and what is basically a robot are far more doable. I bet we could build one that passes the durability and the first glance test (without the AI functionality) today.
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Wildebeest
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Skynet probably didn't use money so a T800 is basically free, while can you imagine the medical bills for Robert Cop?
EverydayBeast
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Who decides what it’s valued? T-800 has an insane amount of components let’s say it costs the same as a submarine, it’s a billion for one.
MrCunningham
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If we take out the Skynet factor... which would basically eliminate all costs (with the exception of the cost of human life), and use the scenario that this was the first T-800 prototype that was developed by Cyberdyne. I would have to say that Robocop would be the more expensive of the two to build.
With RoboCop, you would have to deal with an additional team of neurosurgeons, and people who are experts in the field of cybernetics. The merging of organic components with inorganic components. As well as nutrition experts (people who know how to keep the organic parts from rotting away) and robotic engineers and computer programmers.
The Terminator would't require any of the 'biological' teams, as the T-800 is essentially an android powered by an AI driven neural net processor. The Terminator is classified as a cyborg, which I always thought was a bit sus. The only organic part of the Terminator is its' artificial skin. Cyberdyne would need a team like Boston Dynamics and computer engineers who are well versed in AI. Maybe Cyberdyne could hire Darkman for that task.
At its' core, the T-800 is a robot. But in T2, Sarah and John reboot the T-800's neural net processor, which enables its' ability to learn, and elevates its status to android (artificial life). The artificial skin does classify it as a cyborg. Whilst Robocop is a human brain and some other organic parts wrapped in a robotic body. Robocop would also be impossible to mass produce, unless OCP can crate a 'cloning farm' for Alex Murphy's brain. Skynet was just pumping out T-800's from an assembly line like cars.
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MrCunningham
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Yeah, basically. Also OCP had to keep a steady supply of organic paste (baby food) around to feed Robocop. Plus they had to keep him plugged into a monitoring station when he was not 'on duty'. The T-800 doesn't require food or sleep.
Well, in their respective movie universes Alex Murphy signed an organ donor agreement clause with the Detroit Police Department. Then OCP took over the precinct and took ownership of those organ donor waivers. Which gave them free body parts to work with.
In the Terminator universe (if you count Terminator 3) , in one of the deleted scenes Sgt. William Candy allowed the military to use his likeness for the molds of the T-800.
But it is hard to say how Skynet ended up with Arnold's design pre-Terminator 3 timeline.
In the real world, Arnold would cost a lot more for his likeness. OCP could just threaten Peter Weller that they would use Robert John Burke's likeness instead if he doesn't give into their offer.
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DownLikeBCPowder
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So weird, I got a notification that you quoted my post in this thread.. I don't even have a post in this thread.
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MrCunningham
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So weird, I got a notification that you quoted my post in this thread.. I don't even have a post in this thread.
That's because I am a bit stupid when it comes to mass quoting on these forums. I hit the "Insert Quotes..." button on the bottom of the thread reply thing, and it mass quoted a bunch of people from different threads. Like I quoted 8 different people by mistake. It's a bit odd how that 'insert quote' button stores old unused quotes from other threads. I didn't know that 'insert quotes' store old quotes from other threads and I did panic and edited + deleted them all.
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StreetsofBeige
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Why dont any enemies shoot Robocop in the face?
calistan
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He has a shitload of protection around his actual brain. If somebody shot his jaw off it wouldn't matter too much. They could still feed him paste through his paste port.
BennyBlanco
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So weird, I got a notification that you quoted my post in this thread.. I don't even have a post in this thread.
i got the same notification and was very confused
DownLikeBCPowder
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At least there is an explanation for it! I remember looking at this thread earlier, but was thinking "I didn't post in there.. did I? Huh!"
Same reason enemies attack Jackie Chan one at a time!
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clarky
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TLDR: we agree
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Robocop is a clunker, bruv.
calistan
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Get out of here, Dick Jones! In the Robocop movie, the Robocop project was supposed to be a faster and cheaper way to achieve OCP's aims.
ResilientBanana
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Robocop. Take half a human with an intact brain, give them control of their cybernetic limbs via Neurolink. Put gyroscopes in every limb along with capacitive touch sensors and I’m sure that data could be processed similarly to how quadriplegics are sensing a mouse while using this device. I’m pretty certain, all those non-conscious functions of the human body could also be controlled via Neuralink utilizing a synthetic heart.
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amigastar
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Yeah, same here XD
I feel that robocop still walks robot like where as the terminator had more fluid movement which would require more fine precision technology.
Artoris
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I think that T800 is more complicated especially how skin can sustain itself on metal but connecting a nervous system to a machine would probably cost more and Robocop would be much more difficult to mass produce.
then again if T800 can grow skin with the energy from nuclear power it is something fare more advanced
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then again if T800 can grow skin with the energy from nuclear power it is something fare more advanced
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P:axMagellanic
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Damn... Probably Robocop.
Murphy was as dead as a dodo, fella took a headshot.
Murphy was as dead as a dodo, fella took a headshot.
Artoris
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you mean T400
MrCunningham
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Yeah, I am sorry about that. It was a freak accident with the 'insert quotes' button. BTW. I had quotes stored in that thing from 2022. There's two ways to quote... one is to right click for a direct quote based on highlighted text, and the other is the "+quote" button, which stores complete thread quotes. Those two things use to throw me off. I think I had like less than a dozen old quotes from other threads stored in my 'insert quotes' field.
MrCunningham
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I'm pretty sure that OCP had more than one ED209 in the first movie. But the problem was that their AI was prone to failure and shot up 'Kenny" in the board room.
Robocop is a bit weird, because they tried making more in Robocop 2 only to have them all commit suicide. The logic was that their human brains couldn't cope being inside cyborg bodies. They had to resort to using a drug kingpin. Which also ended up being a mistake. The explanation was that Alex Murphy was a one in a million find.
In Terminator lore. Cyberdyne only made the earliest versions of the Terminator robot, like the T-400. It was Skynet that refined the designs itself and made better ones. Also Cyberdyne perfected the artificial skin. As said by Kyle Reese in the first movie, the earlier models had fake skin that were easy to spot. Skynet could also mass produce them.
But if Cyberdyne were to make the T-800, it would be far more costly for them.
MrCunningham
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I think he has a metal skull. When they were building him in the first movie, Bob Morton said that he wanted Robocop to be 100% body prosthesis, besides his brain and maybe a few body parts that keeps his brain alive. His skin was his real skin wrapped around a metal skull.
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Ulysses 31
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Even if they did, it wouldn't really do much since his he has a metal head underneath the skin.
Hawk The Slayer
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My two favorite Robocop and Terminator movies the original from each one. Both sequels were also great but were way less grounded so their first movies will always be my favorite cause it actually looks real and could happen minus the time traveling.
With that said Terminator T-800 would be my expensive. It's tech is better by allowing it to move way faster than Robocop and making a A.I that advance to do all those task would be very expensive too. Neither are more expensive than the Android SOLO from the movie Solo which cost 1 billion dollars to make. That android could move faster and is way stronger than both.
With that said Terminator T-800 would be my expensive. It's tech is better by allowing it to move way faster than Robocop and making a A.I that advance to do all those task would be very expensive too. Neither are more expensive than the Android SOLO from the movie Solo which cost 1 billion dollars to make. That android could move faster and is way stronger than both.