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All The Last of Us 2 leaks/spoilers in here and nowhere else.

cormack12

Gold Member
In that leak the boss fight around the 60minute mark, is giving me vibes of that stupid werewolf fight in The Order 1886, looks just as ridiculous. IQ is a lot clearer though.

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Jon Neu

Banned
After seeing most of the leaks and getting a clear picture of the way Joel dies, I got to say ND did a poor job of making the player emphathise with Abby and her group. If they had knocked out Tommy and killed Joel with a knife stab or shot him in the head, I'd have been okay with it. But they full on torture him and kill him in the worst possible way by bashing his head in with a golf club. To add insult to injury, another member then spits on Joel's dead body. This is just another take on the "circle of violence" that we've all seen before countless number of times but amped up to get a cheap reaction from people given how Joel dies. The one good thing I see is that Ellie is still alive in the end.

I don’t know how the increidbly stupid plot armour to save Ellie and Noselina are a good thing.

But it’s a good takeaway of how for Cuckmann Joel is disposable but Ellie isn’t.
 

Saber

Member
Man this thread is still going and the main complaint is still "SHE'S TOO BUFF" and "WAHMEN KILL MY JOELERINO!" like seriously?

You're doing it again. The same bullcrap caps lock post about Joel, repeated countless times in this very thread.

Noone seemed to complain when she was introduced in the PGW 2017 video, so why is it suddenly a problem now?

You mean when we didn't have her background? When we didn't know a thing about her(motives and all)? Are you aware of the leak discussion, right?
 

ExpandKong

Banned
See, it makes sense why she has the body of a man!

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It's the spoiler thread, but everyone is using spoiler tags...so I put them in

I’d say Druckmann is going for the “revenge turns us into monsters and I’ll show it by physically making this character as monstrous as possible” trope but even that is probably giving him too much credit.
 

Jon Neu

Banned
If a female character killing a man triggers you this much, then I don't know what else to tell you. :messenger_grinning_sweat:

1-A game with the modern wave of SJW politics and tropes appears, people point that out.

2-DForce, Clear, Explosive Zombie and the rest of SJW apologists: YoU dOn’T hAvE aNy PrOoF, JuSt BeCaUsE X hApPeNs, ThAt DoEsNt PrOvE aNyThInG!! Are you afraid of women, you nazi alt righter? :messenger_smirking:

3-Literally the creator of the game says it’s games are influenced by SJW politics, as the tropes of the game show.

4-DForce, Clear, Explosive Zombie and the rest of SJW apologists: YoU dOn’T hAvE aNy PrOoF!!1!

5-Repeat ad nauseam.
 

HotPocket69

Banned
Is it safe to say this is arguably the biggest game leak of all time? I’m one of the many old boomer fucks on this forum and I cant think of anything of this magnitude except the Half Life 2 leak.

Growing up, maybe something Mortal Kombat related?

Of course having the internet exist certainly helps the fire.
 

Dabaus

Banned
The backlash over the story is spilling over to more than just gaming forums. Alot of accounts i follow on twitter that i would never associate with gaming have said something about it and alot of youtube channels are covering it as well, all universally disappointed to angry.
 
I honestly thought liberals were the ones who couldn't shut the fuck up crying about taking a loss but anti-SJW people might be worse going by this thread. game isn't getting changed, it might bomb but will it though? We'll see.

Also wasn't aware that gay people didn't exist until The Last of Us 2. 👀
 

HotPocket69

Banned
I honestly thought liberals were the ones who couldn't shut the fuck up crying about taking a loss but anti-SJW people might be worse going by this thread. game isn't getting changed, it might bomb but will it though? We'll see.

Also wasn't aware that gay people didn't exist until The Last of Us 2. 👀

It won’t bomb, but sales will most certainly be affected.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
You mean when we didn't have her background? When we didn't know a thing about her(motives and all)? Are you aware of the leak discussion, right?

The complaints are primarily about her appearance though, because that proves the SJW "agenda" that some pillocks round here seem to be in abject terror of!

Been saying this from the start, this thread is just a right-wing version of a resetera "GG/Alt-right/Nazi" witch-hunt thread. Its beyond fucking lame.
 

Silent Duck

Member
In that leak the boss fight around the 60minute mark, is giving me vibes of that stupid werewolf fight in The Order 1886, looks just as ridiculous. IQ is a lot clearer though.

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Looks like Ellie has a one way ticket to Suplex City.

Personally, I’m excited for this. HBO already filmed and leakd the “Joel” scene for the tv series.
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Jon Neu

Banned
Drake can beat 20 men by himself, but he struggles to kick Rafe's ass in 3 seconds.

In a sword fight. That’s the equalizer.

Nadine could have killed Rafe in 3 seconds, swords or not. The almighty power of feminism beats everything.

Nobody gives a shit that gay people exist in this game dude. Ellie being gay is old news.

Meanwhile, the millions of SJW -creators of the game included- watching a lesbian relationship between the protagonists of a super blockbuster videogame:

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Saber

Member
The complaints are primarily about her appearance though, because that proves the SJW "agenda" that some pillocks round here seem to be in abject terror of!

Been saying this from the start, this thread is just a right-wing version of a resetera "GG/Alt-right/Nazi" witch-hunt thread. Its beyond fucking lame.

Your post in no way touched that point. Only that "people like her at start but now are hating her why?"

Seriously, I don't care about politics. But so far the game gave me no reason for why I should play Abby. The only thing it confirms is that she has a random npc father that Joel killed. Pretty sure people who gonna touch this game gonna keep asking themselves "why the fuck I'm gonna play with a character that killed Joel and is making a boss of Ellie, while beat the crap out of pregnant Dina as well?".

On a sidenote, bring your conspiracies theories to the politics thread. And stop calling people nazi.
 
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Dabaus

Banned
The complaints are primarily about her appearance though, because that proves the SJW "agenda" that some pillocks round here seem to be in abject terror of!

Been saying this from the start, this thread is just a right-wing version of a resetera "GG/Alt-right/Nazi" witch-hunt thread. Its beyond fucking lame.

We are none of those things you slanderous, libeling, liar. If its so lame your welcome to no longer post in this thread. We dont want you here. If you like resetera better post there where you can have a safe space.
 
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protonion

Member
I don't care much about spoilers so here I am!

Now let's say that I get the Joel death. Sure it is powerful and feels me with anger in order to have my revenge story along with Elly.

BUT WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THE CHARACTER SWITCH???
 

ExpandKong

Banned
Pretty sure it was a big deal to some people until this leak happened, now it's secondary. First game didn't even have an on-screen kiss. But we'll pretend it didn't.

I mean, personally speaking, I did think it was weird that the reveal trailer for the highly anticipated sequel to The Last of Us featured what felt like ten minutes of extreme close up making out, but not because they were lesbians.
 
I don't care much about spoilers so here I am!

Now let's say that I get the Joel death. Sure it is powerful and feels me with anger in order to have my revenge story along with Elly.

BUT WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THE CHARACTER SWITCH???

No one can really answer that, I bet the game answers that, though... maybe play it when it comes out?
 

Jon Neu

Banned
And my observation about the gym muscles;



It’s well established that in ND universe, women are the biologically stronger sex. No matther how much those fellas worked out, a girl is always going to bring bigger muscles.

Just stating facts, you nazi misogynists.
 
The complaints are primarily about her appearance though, because that proves the SJW "agenda" that some pillocks round here seem to be in abject terror of!

Been saying this from the start, this thread is just a right-wing version of a resetera "GG/Alt-right/Nazi" witch-hunt thread. Its beyond fucking lame.

It never occurs to you that you wouldn't be able to say the equivalent of that in a Resetera thread without risking a perma-ban, does it?

Even if all of the rest were true - and it's debatable - , that in and of itself means this is not a mirror image of that forum's counterpart. In fact, you still being able to post unscathed without so much as a warning is a) a great laudable thing and b) concrete evidence you're flat-out wrong.
 
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plushyp

Member
I don’t know how the increidbly stupid plot armour to save Ellie and Noselina are a good thing.

But it’s a good takeaway of how for Cuckmann Joel is disposable but Ellie isn’t.
Oh, that was something ND made very clear after the launch of the first game. They had called the first part as a coming of age tale for Ellie so I knew it could be treated as an origin tale for her. It was always their intention to make Ellie the lead if there was a second part which made sense thematically since the first game ended with us having control of Ellie. My only issue here like I detailed in my original post is with the way ND got Joel killed that reeks of shock value and poor manipulation which was unnecessary now that I've seen all the leaks. Even if that lie at the end of the first game permanently damaged their relationship, both Ellie and Joel would have gone to the ends of earth for each other had either one of them been killed or heck even injured.
 
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It never occurs to you that you wouldn't be able to say the equivalent of that in a Resetera thread without risking a perma-ban, does it?

Even if all of the rest were true - and it's debatable - , that in and of itself means this is not a mirror image of that form's counterpart. In fact, you still being able to post unscathed without so much as a warning is a) a great laudable thing and b) concrete evidence you're flat-out wrong.

It occurs to me. I'd never tell you here is worse than Resetera because it's one thing for both sides to go into hysterics and it's a whole other to shut down opposing viewpoints and not allow a dialogue, for me that's beyond the pale and why I never bothered trying to create an Era account.
 

cormack12

Gold Member
So the final "boss" fight is just QTE's?

Looks like you play as abbie, and Ellie is stalking you round a basement or summat and you have to hide. Ellie has a one hit kill if she gets her shot off (you can dodge jump to make it harder for her to hit you). The Abby sequence looks like you throw glass bottles from cover to stun Ellie then run out and smash her. Probably rinse/repeat a few times I guess.
 
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Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
It never occurs to you that you wouldn't be able to say the equivalent of that in a Resetera thread without risking a perma-ban, does it?

Even if all of the rest were true - and it's debatable - , that in and of itself means this is not a mirror image of that forum's counterpart. In fact, you still being able to post unscathed without so much as a warning is a) a great laudable thing and b) concrete evidence you're flat-out wrong.

I don't give a flying fuck about Resetera. The place is a lost cause at this point.

GAF however I still care about, which is why it pains me when I get to wade through effluvium-filled threads like this one.

So yeah, I'm gonna continue to point out the idiot contingent and their stupidity as and when I see fit.

I'm sorry, anyone want to defend posts like this?

We are none of those things you slanderous, libeling, liar. If its so lame your welcome to no longer post in this thread. We dont want you here. If you like resetera better post there where you can have a safe space.

Cmon, I make a point of the reason why I dislke this thread being because its the same as a Resetera thread, and this knucklehead with (apparently) a tenuous grasp on the English language wants me to "go back there"?

I mean, hello?
 
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1-A game with the modern wave of SJW politics and tropes appears, people point that out.

2-DForce, Clear, Explosive Zombie and the rest of SJW apologists: YoU dOn’T hAvE aNy PrOoF, JuSt BeCaUsE X hApPeNs, ThAt DoEsNt PrOvE aNyThInG!! Are you afraid of women, you nazi alt righter? :messenger_smirking:

3-Literally the creator of the game says it’s games are influenced by SJW politics, as the tropes of the game show.

4-DForce, Clear, Explosive Zombie and the rest of SJW apologists: YoU dOn’T hAvE aNy PrOoF!!1!

5-Repeat ad nauseam.

I had the same experience with him while trying to make a few key points about the game. I think he meant to type resetera in the URL box but typed neogaf on accident.
 

Dabaus

Banned
I don't give a flying fuck about Resetera. The place is a lost cause at this point.

GAF however I still care about, which is why it pains me when I get to wade through effluvium-filled threads like this one.

So yeah, I'm gonna continue to point out the idiot contingent and their stupidity as and when I see fit.

I'm sorry, anyone want to defend posts like this?



Cmon, I make a point of the reason why I dislke this thread being because its the same as a Resetera thread, and this knucklehead with (apparently) a tenuous grasp on the English language wants me to "go back there"?

I mean, hello?

If it pains you much, dont post here. If youre going to slander the good people on this forum as alt righters and nazis because we think naughty dog made some awful decisions go to resetera where you can be with better company. I see they ban all forms of dissent and wrongthink there so maybe youd feel better over there.
 
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DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
1-A game with the modern wave of SJW politics and tropes appears, people point that out.

2-DForce, Clear, Explosive Zombie and the rest of SJW apologists: YoU dOn’T hAvE aNy PrOoF, JuSt BeCaUsE X hApPeNs, ThAt DoEsNt PrOvE aNyThInG!! Are you afraid of women, you nazi alt righter? :messenger_smirking:

3-Literally the creator of the game says it’s games are influenced by SJW politics, as the tropes of the game show.

4-DForce, Clear, Explosive Zombie and the rest of SJW apologists: YoU dOn’T hAvE aNy PrOoF!!1!

5-Repeat ad nauseam.

Do you know why Riley was created?
Do you know why Abby was created?
Do you know why Tess was created?

Explain to me how and why these characters were created, from the gender to their race.
 
I don't give a flying fuck about Resetera. The place is a lost cause at this point.

GAF however I still care about, which is why it pains me when I get to wade through effluvium-filled threads like this one.

So yeah, I'm gonna continue to point out the idiot contingent and their stupidity as and when I see fit.

It was you who decided to draw a direct equivallence between the two forums.

In the free market of ideas you are always, always always going to encounter ideas you'd deem dumb, lunatic or simply unsubstantiated. That's the price of freedom, All other alternatives are far worse.

How about quoting specific posts and attempting to debunk them?
What's so wrong with that approach?
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
In a sword fight. That’s the equalizer.

Nadine could have killed Rafe in 3 seconds, swords or not. The almighty power of feminism beats everything.

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How is Drake equal to an entire group of mercenaries? What's his equalizer?

Would it be better if Lara Croft was fighting 12 men on her own instead of one or just completely remove her from the game because she shouldn't be able to take on men period?
 
Got to be honest, there’s something more than a bit creepy about seeing a game celebrate a women (or, possibly a man), that certainly *looks* like a man, beating the shit out of women that look like women.

Not sure the game is celebrating it, like... that's not at all the feeling I got from the footage.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Looks like you play as abbie, and Ellie is stalking you round a basement or summat and you have to hide. Ellie has a one hit kill if she gets her shot off (you can dodge jump to make it harder for her to hit you). The Abby sequence looks like you throw glass bottles from cover to stun Ellie then run out and smash her. Probably rinse/repeat a few times I guess.
That final boss scene sounds terrible.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
How about quoting specific posts and attempting to debunk them?

That's pretty much exactly what I have been doing. Its not my fault that the majority of the retorts I get is to call me a "SJW". Which of course I'm not, as evidenced by pretty much every post I've made here over the past 12 years, and mainly because my core complaint is more about shitty behavior and specious and irrational argumentation than political affiliation.

You want to debate me, go ahead
 

Kagero

Member
Got to be honest, there’s something more than a bit creepy about seeing a game celebrate a women (or, possibly a man), that certainly *looks* like a man, beating the shit out of women that look like women.
It's not a man lol. It would actually make a lot of sense that a woman could be juiced to the gills in this universe. Look up crossfit women.
 
Not sure the game is celebrating it, like... that's not at all the feeling I got from the footage.

I have to agree with you.

@ Ogbert Ogbert is making the mistake many make: portrayal is not endorsement, certainly not celebration.

Those who protest movies for violence against women make the same mistake. Again, depiction is not endorsement. Neil's comments about Cycles of violence further illustrate the point that the game didn't set out to celebrate violence, irrespective of whether you happen to like and agree with message or not.


That's pretty much exactly what I have been doing. Its not my fault that the majority of the retorts I get is to call me a "SJW". Which of course I'm not, as evidenced by pretty much every post I've made here over the past 12 years, and mainly because my core complaint is more about shitty behavior and specious and irrational argumentation than political affiliation.

You want to debate me, go ahead

That's what I'm doing here. Debating. I'm refuting your equivalence between the two forums.

You can't be against Resetera because they censor free debate and then complain when free debate happens here. Nasty opinions out in the open are one of the natural expectable results of freedom of speech, public forums, lack of authoritarian moderation.

After 12 years, perhaps you should've grown a thicker skin. You will be called all of the usual epitaphs, you will be strawmaned, and you will strawman others. You, me, no one is above a cheap point once in a while. It comes with the territory. Be thankful others will call you out. You get to call out others.

Forever give up on the idea of yours or anybody's opinions getting universal, consensual or even significant traction all time. This is like a pressure cooker. If your ideas can withstand the pressure of serious scrutiny, they're probably sound.
 
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