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Last of Us showrunners explain why Abby isn’t muscular in season 2
VulcanRaven
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I hoped she would play her and there were rumors that HBO wanted her too. Its very possible that filming of the Marvel movie prevented her from doing it.
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Kikorin
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The reason is that they couldn't find a IFBB pro athlete that is also a good actress. Abby's body is totally unrealistic for human standard, she has a natural and even a bit chubby face with a ripped muscular body that would be difficult to archieve for any woman even using steroid/tren etc... So instead of have a freak looking like a trans on screen, they luckily choose a normal actress. Also, imagine the Ellie they choose for the show fighting with a "woman" like the videogame's Abby.
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GymWolf
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People who use that excuse never lifted a weight in their life.
You also need a big amount of proteins to build some muscles and carbs to even have the energy for training AND fighting rebels, and a fucking burrito for launch and dinner doesn't cut it, like at all.
Schmendrick
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VulcanRaven
Member
Google Jocelyn Mettler. They scanned her face for Abby.
GymWolf
Member
Lol i was mad when they didn't let me kill ellie when i was controlling abby just because a kid you meet a day before say so.
Ellie did way worse than what abby did:
She killed all of her decade old friends
She killed a pregnant woman
She killed the love of her life
Compared to that, killing a father figure you knew for couple of years is child play.
The game is full of retarded moments.
CloudShiner
Member
Bitch couldn't be bothered to put the gym hours in. 
Ulysses 31
Member
Neil changing Abby's appearance after the reveal always seemed more like a cosmetic thing if it can ignored so easily for the TV adaptation.
Fake
Gold Member
Try to tell that to Neil Cuckman.
He really believe in a world destroyed by a virus where people eat human flesh because no food you would still find a muscular woman.
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makes sense to me.
a video game allows for different rules than a live action TV show
a video game allows for different rules than a live action TV show
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VulcanRaven
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Tell what? In that article he says why Abby doesn't need to be exactly like in the game.
Its a zombie game so it doesn't have to be believable.
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double post
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Hugare
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Came to the thread to post this. Thanks.
What a coward move. He knows why Abby looked like that in the game, and it wasnt just for gameplay purposes. He just wanted to justify his casting choice cowardly.
Season 1 was already poor compared to the game, and I dont expect season 2 to surprise me.
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Doom85
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Meanwhile, Bill, the crazy survivalist who would above all the other characters focus on minimizing food consumption as best he can and spends his days constantly running around his large “land” to check on his traps as well as head outside for trade meetups, is somehow quite more overweight compared to the entirety of the rest of the cast.
Funny how his physical appearance wasn’t nitpicked to death over “realism” yet Abby’s was.
Ulysses 31
Member
Bro, really? Lying about something so easily verifiable? But yeah the reveal was in 2017.
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Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Aaaand done.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
Then again, we live in a time where a character can look like this a big portion of the runtime:
So there's really no excuse to have a normal looking Abby on the show. Unless the showrunners don't think a woman looking like videogame-Abby is realistic.
meech
Member
Elie looks far worse in the series than in the game...
I think the reason Ellie didn't kill Abby in the end was well constructed. I think she came to the realisation that the quest for revenge is never ending, or violence begets violence.
I imagine her standing there over Abby, thinking about all the killing and suffering, mental suffering even, her relationship gone, and she probably thought it's not worth it. I feel she feels sympathy for Abby even.
Then how can you not play half the game as Abby and not feel empathy with her.
Imagine how you would feel if someone brutally murdered you father.
Then all the people you love are being murdered.
Her story is outstanding, from the start in her quest for revenge, to her stint in Seattle regretting how it all went down, to her relationship with that kid she kind of adopts.
The story is basically about how revenge fucks up everyone's lives.
Masterpiece of interactive story telling if you ask me
PixelatedBeast
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Right, people are just bitching to bitch. The chance of them finding an actress as good as Nick Offerman to play Abby while being in fit for the role is so low, you rather just make sure you're going after acting skilss rather than looks, because its an unrealistic expectation. Nick Offerman didnt have to get in shape and build muscles for the role, so his casting choice was much easier.Meanwhile, Bill, the crazy survivalist who would above all the other characters focus on minimizing food consumption as best he can and spends his days constantly running around his large “land” to check on his traps as well as head outside for trade meetups, is somehow quite more overweight compared to the entirety of the rest of the cast.
Funny how his physical appearance wasn’t nitpicked to death over “realism” yet Abby’s was.
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EDMIX
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Its likely they don't have 2 actresses that look alike to make it work from when she is a kid to an adult
It would make more sense to just have Kaitlyn Dever get more gains, cut etc and just have some younger actresses play kid Abby or something. Dever doesn't need to look Crossfit good, she just needs to get some gains...
Keep in mind, I don't even think anyone is asking for something wild here, men do this all the time when they alter roles, I don't see why that would be an issue here, she just merely needs to look more fit then she already does as actors change roles all the time with trainers
It would make more sense to just have Kaitlyn Dever get more gains, cut etc and just have some younger actresses play kid Abby or something. Dever doesn't need to look Crossfit good, she just needs to get some gains...
Keep in mind, I don't even think anyone is asking for something wild here, men do this all the time when they alter roles, I don't see why that would be an issue here, she just merely needs to look more fit then she already does as actors change roles all the time with trainers
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Sure jan
Abby was great and it was explained why she is muscular. If you finished the game you would know how she ends up looking without training….
She looks like FASD(fetal alcohol) child.
diffusionx
Gold Member
The fact that you need to resort to a YT video with some weird dom fetish title says it all. This stuff isn't normal, maybe see a therapist to work through your mommy issues.
Fake
Gold Member
I'm talking about the game in case you don't notice.
And your both statments breaks each other lol.
They sure started with the ideia of finding an actress in similar apparence as Abby.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
this stuff isn't normal BUT IT IS somewhat occuring. People train.
But Abby is also not normal... The world of tlou2 is not normal.. and guess what? IT'S A FUCKING VIDEO GAME
so what the hell. No matter what example I will post. You will rebuke it
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Melfice7
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Neil changing Abby's appearance after the reveal always seemed more like a cosmetic thing if it can ignored so easily for the TV adaptation.
always hated this, the original was fine, but neil wanted them gains
EDMIX
Banned
? The game isn't telling you all women look like this, its telling you Abby does, as in Abby trains cause WLF has a gym, WLF has farm with food....
All the things needed for those gains exist with WLF, that is saying she has the ability to do this, not that the whole fucking world does as I don't think you get she is like this based on her situation in that faction.
So that "world destroyed" still had livestock, a stadium, left behind gyms etc
So understand, you are talking about 1 person, the game is not telling you all people over the world can do this as you seem to be missing that piece of logic..
So WLF was not powerful cause they had guns, they are powerful because they have and resources to fuel their soldiers, one of which is Abby
So nothing regarding Abby screams impossible as she isn't miss Olympia anything weird like his , she just looks like someone that does cross fit or powerlifts etc
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diffusionx
Gold Member
If Druckmann wants to activate his dom muscle fetish in a game, who am I to stop him, it's his game. But it leads to an issue when you have to cast actual, real people to represent those characters, which is what I pointed out.
delishcaek
Member
Someone higher up told him to shut the fuck up when he pitched his idea for a buff Abby.
EDMIX
Banned
? How, in the context of the fucking game she literally had 4 years in a WLF's stadium stocked with organic food from a farm and NFL gym equipment lol
So the whole WORLD doesn't have that luxury, as the fucking game isn't about the perspective of a fucking person from the normal world, its from one in which their faction is the top dog and they own the guns, resources and food to have soldiers built like that over those years
So there isn't a right or wrong about this, this is not about ALL FUCKING WOMEN, its about 1 fucking person, understand what is being stated as I've read this statement a few times and it seems many are under this odd impression that the main character is suppose to represent all humans on earth and no where in the Last Of Us have they ever made any claim or suggested anything weird like this, it is a set story, in a set world about exact characters.
its not The Sims, its not a documentary on how human life would be for all people or anything weird like this to reach to something so strange.
So everyone was not WLF, thus everyone didn't have all the guns, all the food and all the gym equipment to get gains
Thats it...
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j0hnnix
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Off topic. I feel Rhea is much more attractive than Chyna.. Rhea still has some feminine facial features when Chyna looked like Arnold with tits.We got a new Chyna
Her wwe name is Rhea Ripley
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
I guess we don't have nanomachines to do the transformation yet
Ulysses 31
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Reizo Ryuu
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Translation: Actresses didn't want to do the insane amount of work and supplements to get there, nor did they want to risk having giant necks and shoulders too difficult to get rid of.
viveks86
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I love that people are STILL arguing what should or shouldn't have happened in the game so passionately 
Yeah the writing was on the wall the moment the cast was announced. This was likely understood when the contracts were signed.
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VulcanRaven
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sloppyjoe_gamer
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They're corny asses. As expected, they are going to drag out Joel getting 9 ironed for several seasons.
Mfer, you're bitching about Kylie Minogue? one of the top cultural icons of the 90s and smoking hot woman playing as Cammy White? What The Fuck!?Cammy in street fighter
Cammy in street fighter movie
Who gives a shit? Discussions surrounding games have become about the most mundane stupid clickbait/outrage culture nonsense I've ever seen.
viveks86
Member
These debates would not be happening if those muscular arms did not swing the golf club. No one would care if she were a side character. No energy was spent on the giant women who dwarfed Abby in the same post apocalyptic world, where she apparently lacks the nutrition, equipment or obsessive drive. She did the deed and that sealed it in the minds of gamers one way or the other. No amount of counter arguments will change our minds. Confirmation bias will keep this debate alive forever. And I love it!
I'm just keen to see how they compensate for it in the show. Ellie actually looks way more buff now. Perhaps they are flipping the narrative? Look at these guns!
Roman Empire
Member
Actress wasn't commited to her role. What a shame.
Sooner
Gold Member
I didn't like the last of us 2's story for one reason and one alone and it's because we didn't get to kill Ellie at the end of the game. After she essentially destroyed Abby's life i wanted her dead and when Abby spared her i was pissed off. It went against Abby's motivation throughout the entire game which was revenge. She wanted revenge for her father and she should've wanted revenge for everyone else Joel and Ellie killed too, but she just decides at the last minute naaa screw this you get to live. It ruined the story for me.
Hari Seldon
Member
Glad I never bothered with the game, I can watch the much superior version now. The first season was basically the exact story of the game only better, so there is no more need to purchase games in this series!
