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[demigod]

Ain’t gunna happen.

 

[GulfCoastZilla]

Nothing we could do about it even if it happens.

 

[Wildebeest]

If Beijing wants it, then it is going to happen. Doesn't matter what you, me, or Joe Rogan thinks of it.

 

[OverHeat]

Love the posters that say it won’t happen you guys are in denial

 

[The Fartist]

Love the posters that say it won’t happen you guys are in denial

"I'm alive today in this world, it can't happen, I'm too special for it to happen"

 

[poopchad420]

Nothing ever happens

 

[Polygonal_Sprite]

Rich and powerful people like to be rich and powerful too much to destroy Earth in nuclear war.

More proxy wars that keep the military industrial complex going? Of course.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

 

[FunkMiller]

If Beijing wants it, then it is going to happen. Doesn't matter what you, me, or Joe Rogan thinks of it.

Most of Beijing have their own vast wealth tied up in American companies - and they're not going to risk that. Say what you want about global capitalism, but it's a great way to ensure self interest wins out over glorious conquest every time.

 

[FunkMiller]

Besides that, I don't think a US/EU/NATO-army would fare any better. The war in Ukraine is a return to trench warfare because of drone technology. This is a completely new development. The idea of that western weapons and soldiers are superior is just a myth. We spend ridiculous amounts of money on incredibly expensive hitech weapons compared to the Russians but much of it is overpriced junk. None of the weapons employed against Russia were game changers on the battlefield. They're only super powerful in comparison to minor countries with small (or even non existing) armies like Iraq and Afghanistan. It's easy to shock and awe your way to victory against a weak opponent, but that tactic won't work against a country with thousands of working nukes. (The idea that Russia's nuclear arsenal is 99% defective is just ludicrous)

Do you actually think anything really powerful in the US's arsenal has been brought to bear in this conflict? Because it really, really hasn't.

Anybody who thinks America couldn't end this war in an afternoon with a bombardment of every Russian site in Ukrainian territory using tomahawks has not been paying attention to how much fucking money the US spends on its military.

You think all those satellites are up there are doing nothing?

The biggest disinformation campaign waged by the Russians is the idea they have a fucking hope against NATO, unless they go nuclear. Which Putin hasn't done, despite his red lines being crossed again, and again, and again.

Paper. Tiger.

Goat. Fucker.

 

[Wildebeest]

Most of Beijing have their own vast wealth tied up in American companies - and they're not going to risk that. Say what you want about global capitalism, but it's a great way to ensure self interest wins out over glorious conquest every time.

Global capitalism is what was in place before world war one. It is no cast iron guarantee. There are ways where capitalism and war align, such as giving a reason to run up a massive debt not possible in peace and controlling resources and governments.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

Global capitalism is what was in place before world war one. It is no cast iron guarantee. There are ways where capitalism and war align, such as giving a reason to run up a massive debt not possible in peace and controlling resources and governments.

The world pre WWI was as globalised as we are now.

The yanks and Chinese will be at each others throats within out lifetimes.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I fucking hope so. This tinned curry isn't going to eat itself.

 

[Magic Carpet]

I'm sure it will happen on the day I retire from work. Won't even get my first SS deposit. The bank will be gone. My paid off house will get blown off it's foundation and the EMP will destroy my electric car. No bridges left anywhere to live under. It's going to be a rough world for the survivors of WW3.

 

[jason10mm]

The world pre WWI was as globalised as we are now.

The yanks and Chinese will be at each others throats within out lifetimes.

Sadly, this COULD be avoided.

The US is uniquely positioned to be energy AND food independent, a very rare capability for most countries and none of the other current world major players can claim the same. The US is also in a great defensive position with oceans on almost all sides (if we kinda fold in Canada) and a southern border that could be closed quickly with any desire to do so.

We could then just kinda sit out China, India, Russia, and Europe deciding who controls what and very quickly the unequal distribution of food and energy would lead to a lot of countries collapsing and mass famine. It may still happen even if the US stays as World Police (TM) but the only real reason the US and China would fight is Chinas desire for regional control (much like Russia in Ukraine) and whether or not the US wants to deny it. China is FUCKED if they can't sort out some serious internal issues with their population.

They are expected to go from this:

to this in just 16 years

That will CRUSH them internally unless they get to having the babies and/or allow MASSIVE immigration, and who is rushing to go to CHINA?

The US and the West can avoid this situation by selective immigration of "the productive ones" and then try to culturally indoctrinate them as much as possible to preserve the local customs and language but I don't think China can do that.

 

[llien]

Global capitalism is what was in place before world war one. It is no cast iron guarantee. There are ways where capitalism and war align.

WW1 had nothing to do with capitalism.
It started at imperial era, when waging wars to move borders was a routine.

Germans felt bad about not having the room to expand, despite having strong industry and quite an army and fleet.

WW2 was the guys who lost WW1 giving it another try.

After that try countries agreed on never moving borders by force again.

What Ruzza and Putler are doing (the f*ck is driven by the butthurt from losing the Cold War, quite like Hitler had BH from WW1, except German WW1 defeat was way more humiliating), if successful, will bring us back into that imperial times. With unpredictable results.


I do NOT believe US would get directly involved if Xi decides to grab Taiwan, which, mind you, is part of People's Republic of China de jure.

I don't see why Putler would stop trying to expand, unless his ass is kicked in major military ways. I hope Collective West gets that before poor Ukrainians bleed out dry.