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Are you afraid that WW3 might happen?
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Kraz
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Moscovites and their army invading Ukraine with mobile genocide crematoriums and kill lists to commit genocide and claiming it was about attacking the West and setting up a multipolar world was the start of WW3.
With all the threats about nuking the US and European nations coming from Moscovia it's a wonder every time I open the news and see that the Moscows haven't been nuked already.
The next one of those Rushist medium range ballistic missiles gets launched should get a first strike response. The first one should've done it.
With all the threats about nuking the US and European nations coming from Moscovia it's a wonder every time I open the news and see that the Moscows haven't been nuked already.
The next one of those Rushist medium range ballistic missiles gets launched should get a first strike response. The first one should've done it.
Lunarorbit
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You mean you don't want to have a baby in an alleyway like Ruth in Threads after a nuclear war?
cormack12
Gold Member
There's too much to lose these days. I don't think another nuke will ever get launched.
However, I am more concerned what has been developed in the last half century as an alternative to a nuke that is viable that we actually don't know about.
Also, the West is currently on the amuse-bouche of fucking themselves up with law and order.
However, I am more concerned what has been developed in the last half century as an alternative to a nuke that is viable that we actually don't know about.
Also, the West is currently on the amuse-bouche of fucking themselves up with law and order.
Kraz
Member
The current Ruscist nuclear threat would probably have been avoided if Patton was given the lead and iron he ascertained for the work he envisioned to neutralize Russia, before it became an issue.
"In addition to his other amiable characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, a barbarian and a chronic drunk."
I've had Ruscist supporters say in recent years that they view life as worth less than a pack of cigarettes, doesn't seem they've changed at all.
"In addition to his other amiable characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, a barbarian and a chronic drunk."
I've had Ruscist supporters say in recent years that they view life as worth less than a pack of cigarettes, doesn't seem they've changed at all.
E-Cat
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Why the fuck would you bet on something like nuclear weapons going offPolymarket currently is pricing in a 9% chance of nuclear weapons going off before the end of 2024.
Will a nuclear weapon detonate in 2024?
Polymarket | This market will resolve to "Yes" if a nuclear weapon is detonated anywhere in the world between July 1, 2024 and December 31, 2024, 11:59 PM ET...polymarket.com
DeepEnigma
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kruis
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Russia may not play in the same league as the US, it's still a formidable opponent. It's self-sufficient, has its own high tech defense industry (tanks, fighter jets, bombers, missiles, etc), has an arsenal filled with thousands of nuclear missiles and they've just demonstrated an ICBM missile attack. There's a tendency to downplay Russia, our politicians all believed the Russian economy would croak in 2022, but Russian only got more independent form the west while we all suffered an energy crisis and inflation.
I think the current situation is damn scary with western powers escalating by attacking Russia directly with their own missiles. We play the charade that it's Ukraine that's in charge of them, but behind the scenes it's NATO countries that are creating intelligence reports, determining the targets, handling the missiles, setting the targets. High level German army chiefs let that secret out earlier this year. That's why Russia considers an attack by Storm Shadows on targets on Russian soil a direct attack by NATO.
Now we could end up in tit for tat military exchanges with neither side wanting to back down. That's fucking scary. Once we move from a proxy war into outright war with Russia, all bets are off.
I'm really astounded by the lackadaisical attitudes toward what's happening right now. The current situation is more dangerous than what went down during the Cuba Crisis in 1962. Then both political and military leaders knew full well the dangers of war and the destruction power of a nuclear bomb. Now we have leaders who see war as an opportunity to play the tough leader in times of crisis, but they don't seem to take it that seriously behind the scenes. War used to be beating up small countries with tiny armies in faraway countries (Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, etc). The stakes were always low and it didn't have any real life consequences whatsoever. War with Russia is completely different, it would mean WW3 and nuclear armageddon. Trump had the right instincts but now these idiots in Washington and the EU want to escalate the situation because they think peace is more scary than the end of the world as we know it.
Cyberpunkd
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They should have grabbed Taiwan when everyone was still hooked up on the chips.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Why worry about something that is not going to happen?
This is not going to happen, at least in our lifetimes.
This is not going to happen, at least in our lifetimes.
BlackTron
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Yeah it gives an idea but I'd like a documentary style take on this instead of the movie style so we could parse which stuff actually happened or not. Like there wasn't really a car chase lol.
Aside from their nuclear arsenal, Russia is a developing nation and outright corrupt shit hole that’s not a peer to NATO. They didn’t have the modern logistics to invade a smaller neighbouring country and their Soviet era designed equipment is inferior garbage that is currently being annihilated by Ukraine.
There is no conventional or nuclear war that Russia can wage with NATO where they would win and if they intended for nuclear conflict, then they wouldn’t have conveniently centralized their population and weapons production. Russia’s campaign of subversion and misinformation is their best and most formidable weapon and where the greatest current danger to NATO resides.
Appeasement or what people are calling “Diplomacy” is going to go about as well as it did in World War 2. We’ve just switched from the Swastika wearing goose-steppers of Nazi Germany to the Zwastika wearing disease ridden murder hobos of Russia.
jufonuk
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This is what I worry about no one wanting to back down, it’s either Putin is bluffing about this hypersonic missle and the west developed insane weapons to combat all the supposed weapons Russia claim to have. Or he really does have this and this and others either way I hope cooler heads prevail.
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kruis
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If your knowledge of Russia and Russian people comes from bad movies about life in the USSR, then you're not informed but breainwashed.
ForAcademicPurposes
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You know, when you can use bioweaponry, why use nukes? You saw what covid did and that was from one market. Now imagine, you go a couple of shopping centers and let loose something. Infrastructures overwhelmed, without a single nuke. And, as you saw with covid, whose fault is it?
With the climate shifting and we already see the prices of things like chocolate and coffee going up because of floods, disease, and drought, how long do you think you would last with fallout on top of this.
I think we have a greater chance of something like 12 Monkeys happening (I believe it was a contagion released at an airport to reach the most countries as fast as possible but it honestly has been a long time since I watched that.)
With the climate shifting and we already see the prices of things like chocolate and coffee going up because of floods, disease, and drought, how long do you think you would last with fallout on top of this.
I think we have a greater chance of something like 12 Monkeys happening (I believe it was a contagion released at an airport to reach the most countries as fast as possible but it honestly has been a long time since I watched that.)
CharmingCharlie
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At the end of the day there is literally bugger all you can do to prevent world war 3 anyway so no point worrying about it. Personally I am doubtful it will happen, the people in charge *yes even the bald ones that like long tables" have it too good to screw everything over with nukes. Yeah sure they would be good for a couple of months in a bunker but what then ? The ones in charge of the nukes have too much to lose to use them basically.
Fabieter
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The biggest issue is that if Russia were to lose the war, it could potentially lead to the country breaking apart into 10 or more smaller states. I can only imagine that the current leadership would go to extreme lengths, potentially causing significant harm to the entire world, before they would ever accept the dissolution of Russia as it exists today.
So long as the US has ballistic missile subs tooling around there is little risk of a (widespread) nuclear war IMHO. Even with hypersonic missiles striking the US before the pres could authorize a launch, no one could escape retaliation because the subs would get you.
I think the covid lockdown showed that it isn't necessary. There are alternate means to control populations through social media, a press owned by just a few groups and beholden to nebulous special interests, and politicians who have a $250k/yr salary and become multi-millionaires in a few terms. Nukes are as outdated as battleship naval rifles now.
I think the covid lockdown showed that it isn't necessary. There are alternate means to control populations through social media, a press owned by just a few groups and beholden to nebulous special interests, and politicians who have a $250k/yr salary and become multi-millionaires in a few terms. Nukes are as outdated as battleship naval rifles now.
AeonGaidenRaiden
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No, because nobody has the balls to do anything. Just a bunch of old farts making empty threats. Look what happened to Russia just because of this war. Imagine if they really launched a nuke. 5 other countries would retaliate in a second and flatline Russsia. Same goes for any other country, the united countries would launch back and "WW3" would be over in 24 hours. Only crazy one here is North Korea from which you can expect the unexpected because its a man child with an ego running the country and they already have every single ban imposed on them so its not like he cares about social media status and how they look in the news.
Kraz
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NATO considers first-strike strategy in case of Russian attack, says top NATO official Rob Bauer - Euromaidan Press
NATO’s Rob Bauer calls on industries to adjust production lines for operating under wartime conditions.
euromaidanpress.com
Russia being destroyed for its aggression and nuclear threats before carrying them out would really make things easier for the new year.
Russia is not a modern threat. It’s mired in corruption and back dealings. If Russia pressed the nuke button I think only a handful would even function. These sites require real maintanence and constant spending Russia doesn’t have.
Let’s put this another way. If the USA wanted to take over Ukraine the war would have lasted 10-20 days MAX. Russia is still there years later getting cornholed by old USA tech. We are far and away superior to them and most modern militaries are as well.
China is the only threat and China doesn’t want war at an all. If they did they would already have absorbed Taiwan.
Ww3 is not happening. Likely never will.
Fabieter
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In the meantime, France and Great Britain have been discussing the possibility of sending troops to Ukraine.
I’ll eat crow if it wonrt happen(gladly), but as of now, I anticipate the West escalating the situation before January 20th.
kruis
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Russians see Ukranians as a brother people, the two countries were a single country for centuries, a huge number of Russians have family members and friends living there. Putin could easily bomb Ukraine to pieces but he don't because he doesn't want to lose support among common Russians. Hardliners think he's fighting a war with one behind his back. The US wouldn't have these scruples, they can and will bomb countries back to the stone age if they must.
Besides that, I don't think a US/EU/NATO-army would fare any better. The war in Ukraine is a return to trench warfare because of drone technology. This is a completely new development. The idea of that western weapons and soldiers are superior is just a myth. We spend ridiculous amounts of money on incredibly expensive hitech weapons compared to the Russians but much of it is overpriced junk. None of the weapons employed against Russia were game changers on the battlefield. They're only super powerful in comparison to minor countries with small (or even non existing) armies like Iraq and Afghanistan. It's easy to shock and awe your way to victory against a weak opponent, but that tactic won't work against a country with thousands of working nukes. (The idea that Russia's nuclear arsenal is 99% defective is just ludicrous)
kruis
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You could make that point about WW1 as well - the losses in human lives were simply beyond comprehension at that time - but politicians gladly went into war because they thought it would all be over in a matter of weeks. They never expected things to escalate the way it did.
I bet that Putin also expected the Ukraine war to be over in no time: just send over troops to Kiev, force the Ukraine government to declare itself neutral and give up any ambitions to join NATO and the EU and the Special Military Operation would be done. But it's still war almost three years later and this war could still blow up. I'd hoped that with Trump as the new president there'd be a way out of this mess, but now we have Biden, Macron and Starmer throwing oil onto the fire.
Scary times.
Kraz
Member
Ruscists are more brotherly with North Koreans. Ukraine more brotherly with the West.
Capitulation to invading fascists trying to impose themselves on another nation with brutality isn't an option. If peace is desired by Moscovites then it would be wiser for Moscovia to give up their disastrous ambitions, stop threatening with nukes, and then there will be peace and no nukes.
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Badlucktroll
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It probably would have happened if the soviets invaded western europe like the nazis did in the 60s or 70s but i dont think it will happen now
Brotherly peoples don’t traffic and forcibly adopt children under a state sponsored program that brands Putin a war criminal for genocide. They don’t perform mass executions of civilians or prisoners of war alike. They don’t raze towns and cities to ash because that’s the only way their army can maneuver without being slaughtered in man high corpse piles as seen in Mariupol or Hostomel.
Russia isn’t holding back, they’re using everything they have in their power bar nuclear or biological weapons to the point they’re begging third world nations for men and material. They fight like cowards and die like clowns, and there are lists of videos showing them do the right thing by blowing their own brains out.
Russia has no justifiable cause in their act of genocidal aggression and the onus is entirely on them to cease their unjustified and inhuman aggression, not on everyone else to cave to these modern Nazis.
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Cyberpunkd
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Wrong, they see Ukrainians as subservient to Russia, the way they see all other neighbor countries. That didn’t change for hundreds of years. Russia for centuries has been a destabilising agent for the region.
Cyberpunkd
Member
I think there was a big passage in a famous book about Stalin that just before death he was preparing to invade Western Europe.
AJUMP23
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I think in order for war to start you have to look at the interest. What does a country or political ruling class have to gain by invading and seeking land or resources from another area. WW1 assassination and political treaties brought the world to war. But the Serbs killed the duke due to the way they felt about the oppression of the Hapsburgs. WW2 is a direct result of the punishment levied against Germany. "Making them pay" created an environment in Germany that lead to the population choosing a dynamic personality that would restore their place in the world. Occupying forces after WW2 really helped calm the region as well as powerful heads of state in Russia, and Yugoslavia. Vietnam started due to French claims and American support of them on French Indochina colonies. Maybe one of the worst reasons America ever entered a war. For French colonial interest.
That brings us to today. I don't think there is anything for the rest of the world to gain by insisting on Ukraine to NATO and thumbing their nose at Russia. I think the bigger geopolitical risk is Taiwan. There is genuine national security issue for the US and western countries with the chips made by TSMC. The US would go to war not to protect Taiwan but protect their interest in the technology. I think the bigger concern is in the east not the west. Ukraine is certainly manageable when the US decides they are tired of laundering money through the war. China and Taiwan may become a real powder keg.
That brings us to today. I don't think there is anything for the rest of the world to gain by insisting on Ukraine to NATO and thumbing their nose at Russia. I think the bigger geopolitical risk is Taiwan. There is genuine national security issue for the US and western countries with the chips made by TSMC. The US would go to war not to protect Taiwan but protect their interest in the technology. I think the bigger concern is in the east not the west. Ukraine is certainly manageable when the US decides they are tired of laundering money through the war. China and Taiwan may become a real powder keg.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
I’m counting on it to bring us all eternal joy
The Fartist
Gold Member
If it ever happens, I want my family and loved ones to be right in the middle of wherever the 1st bomb drops, we'd be the lucky ones.
LordofAllThatIsEvil
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It has started.
The Fartist
Gold Member
Not in the slightest.
I'm eating a delicious submarine sandwich while reading this thread, and ill be eating a delicious submarine sandwich if a nuke hits my head.
The point here, is that submarine sandwiches are a perfect food to enjoy, while pondering all of lifes possibilities.
I'm eating a delicious submarine sandwich while reading this thread, and ill be eating a delicious submarine sandwich if a nuke hits my head.
The point here, is that submarine sandwiches are a perfect food to enjoy, while pondering all of lifes possibilities.
The Fartist
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The Fartist
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Donald mac Ronald
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I suggest eating lots of fish to increase your iq. With enough, you might hit 100.
Zathalus
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Nah, Russian (and the Soviet Union for that matter) military hardware is terrible compared to equivalent NATO systems. The idea that the west relies on overpriced boondoggles is a myth that was perpetuated by non serious people (look up the Fighter Mafia). In a non-nuclear shooting war Russia won’t even get as far as Warsaw and the only reason they are any sort of threat to NATO is because of their nuclear deterrent.
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