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BioWare Veteran Calls Out People Celebrating Layoffs After Dragon Age: The Veilguard Backlash

Topher

Identifies as young
How many times have devs lashed out at us gamers for not buying their crap and how many devs have made videos criticizing their own people?


heh

More like this

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So did you close that game?
 

bender

What time is it?
He's right. Not even a drive-by post, he's 100% correct with everything there.
The fact that this needs to be said is extremely concerning:

Concerning, but also not surprising. We live in a world where most people are terminally online. Who would have thought giving every Tom, Dick and Harry a voice would be a bad thing? The benefits to the internet age are far outweighed by the negatives at least as far a creating well socially adjusted individuals.
 
He's right. Not even a drive-by post, he's 100% correct with everything there.
The fact that this needs to be said is extremely concerning:
What's truly concerning is people in positions of power acting all "mature and morally superior" talking down to people
as if they were above the cultural cesspool. while partaking in and feeding (willingly or not) its toxicity and negativity.

It's ignorance ar best, hypocrisy and desenguonitu at worst.
 

kiphalfton

Member
These guys go fucking nuclear when you don't support what they support (or by association they don't support what you support).

They go off on diatribes, usually resorting to insults (not excluding racist remarks), shaming, etc.

Then when anybody says anything they take a "run behind cover" approach, continue to take potshots at you, try to rally their fellow idiots, and otherwise try and play it off like they're the victim.

Best thing to do is not even engage them, and ignore their bullshit.
 

drotahorror

Member
"But when you climb into someone's personal social media and start actively attacking that person, when you celebrate layoffs at a studio because the game that you don't like didn't do that well, "

Um, those are 2 very entirely different things. One is harassment, maybe even criminal if going really far, the other is being satisfied with the results.
 
Damn, sounds like you are good enough to have a Wikipedia article. I need to look up.
The last thing I want showing up here is a Youtube compilation of my biggest failures of giving up bombs

Sadly I learned years ago to keep my identity hidden as it leads to people finding my real Playstation and Xbox accounts and bugging me

But yeah I have a Wiki :)

Heck I am in early video games

My son would always play me and the main rule was I had to play as myself well I was good for one inning maybe two but after that my guy was always gassed so the pitches were like batting practice for him

But we had fun
 

Moonjt9

No Silksong? = Delivering the pain.
Sure personal harassment and social media attacks are bad, but gamers have every right to celebrate layoffs like these and it’s not cruel.

It’s removing cancer cells from a body. What’s not to celebrate?
 

LectureMaster

Gold Member
The last thing I want showing up here is a Youtube compilation of my biggest failures of giving up bombs

Sadly I learned years ago to keep my identity hidden as it leads to people finding my real Playstation and Xbox accounts and bugging me

But yeah I have a Wiki :)

Heck I am in early video games

My son would always play me and the main rule was I had to play as myself well I was good for one inning maybe two but after that my guy was always gassed so the pitches were like batting practice for him

But we had fun
Damn, the more I learn about old Heisenberg, the more intriguing and legendary you become, lmao.

Absolutely respect your privacy protection. All I know is that you are a nice wise guy on the forum who thinks the PS5 Pro is the best console ever, lol.
 

hinch7

Member
Celebrating is a bit much but the disdain seems to go both ways. Unfortunately for them, companies need us, the buying consumer and not the other way round.

Ironically these Californian(or like) liberals are the most racist and bigoted people out there; outside of the most deep end of extremists, that is. In any case people voted with their wallets. So cry and kick rocks and go push your agenda elsewhere (or nowhere).
 

viveks86

Member
Nahh sadly didn't get into game 4 but did pitch in the Series.

I was never trusted (good enough) to be a real closer :)

Was never good enough to closer or be a starter but just good enough to stay in the league
My my. Others should take notes on how to humble brag.

“Hey talentless nerds, I’m just Hercules. Not as good as Zeus or Ares. But just good enough to be A FUCKING DEMIGOD”

:)
 
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My my. Others should take notes on how to humble brag.

“Hey talentless nerds, I’m just Hercules. Not as good as Zeus or Aries. But just good enough to be A FUCKING DEMIGOD”

:)
To really blow your mind I know of a true Hall of Famer that has visited these very forums as he used to be a massive Call of Duty fan but haven't seen him on in awhile

The KID was in fact a Demigod with the bat :)
 

lmimmfn

Member
"I'm not saying you're not allowed to be angry about it, I'm not saying you don't get to express your dissatisfaction with the content of the game that you're not enjoying" he starts. "But when you climb into someone's personal social media and start actively attacking that person, when you celebrate layoffs at a studio because the game that you don't like didn't do that well, you're crossing a line into being cruel and fundamentally you should have more grace for other human beings."

I agree. People take this stuff too far.
Thankfully I knew the game was shit so I didn't buy it, but if I spent 70 quid of my hard earned cash and was duped into buying it based on the "reviews" I would be all over the social media accounts responsible and fucking raging.
 

Heimdall_Xtreme

Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member


Chapters:
0:00 See Title
0:20 You Can Be Critical
1:17 BUT
1:29 What Are You DOING?
2:20 You Don't Know Who's To Blame
6:29 Once Again
6:51 OK One Target
8:08 That's Me
10:00 Look Up Not Down
11:04 They're Listening




Para que se le quite.
 

JayK47

Member
These guys think they are the extreme majority. They live in a bubble. When they dunk on "chuds", they do not think it will affect sales by much because everybody they know agrees with their warped world view. Everything they do not like is toxic and everybody they disagree with is Hitler. All the while never looking in the mirror to see Hitler looking back at them. They are not smart enough to figure out they are the problem.

We will be seeing a lot more failed studios and shaming videos in the years to come. We as gamers need to move on. Plenty of good studios remain and plenty of new ones pop up every year. No need to cling on to studios like Bioware that have long outlived their usefulness.
 
This has got to be one of the most condescending videos I've ever seen.
Also : 1K likes, 2.5K dislikes, guy is getting ROASTED left and right by pretty much everyone.

THIS is what happens when you keep pushing people over edge for years by trying to preach to them, being condescending, intolerant and being quick at pulling the -ist and -phobe cards whenever things don't go your way.
Ahhh yes, least we forget, when everything fails Pt.2, be sure to play the victim 'cause that will surely work.

I'm not ashamed to say it : fuck this guy and fuck aaaallll the others like him, bunch of fucking soft, sensitive, insufferable hypocrites the lot of them, can't and won't feel sorry for "them".

Also : once again, the "both sides are equally bad" pseudo-argument proves to be complete and utter (hypocritical) bullshit - and it's exactly because of people like the guy in the video.

Fuck the lot of these types to infinity
 

yogaflame

Member
This is the problem with wrong and twisted version of DEI, it becomes entitlement for politicians and workers to always push and force woke agenda narrative in all work and projects. And obligate HR and companies to follow those agendas and implement them to everyone. And they love to gaslight and have that fake victim mentality.
 
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Hari Seldon

Member
I feel like I need a documentary or a TED talk on exactly why people went retarded in the 21st century. Is it the plastic in our balls? Maybe lead paint was actually good for us? Exactly what caused people to forget that you don’t insult customers before they buy your shit? I feel like they had this shit figured out in BC times.
 

digimaster7

Neo Member
Yeah, agreed.

And having said that, Veilguard fucking sucked. It had nothing to do with wokeness, T(r/a)ash or whatnot. It just was a piss-poor Dragon Age game. And that made me both very angry and sad, because I doubt we'll see another attempt at a Dragon Age game.

(And yeah, boning scout Harding didn't quite do it for me. But, if you play a female character, change your appearance in the character creator to remove the top and go through the whole ordeal, you get to see your own, puny even if the slider was all the way to the right, tits for just a while. So whoopedoo. The most mature DA ever.)
“It had nothing to do with wokeness”

LOL, then go ahead fund another $200M dragon age game, put taash in the next game, make him say non-binary again with pronoun selector, I double dare you.

also don’t forget to make all the character design look like modern audience slop (read:ugly)
 

ReBurn

Gold Member
I wouldn't even know who a dev is unless they put themselves out there criticizing people on social media. I really don't care if the ones that bash their customers get dragged for it. Those are the only ones I ever see if we're being honest. Like the one calling gamers who didn't like the thing talentless freaks. I don't care if that person gets hounded. They were stupid enough to poke the bear.

I don't care enough about the rest of them to actually try to figure out who they are on my own much less call them out anywhere.
 

nowhat

Member
“It had nothing to do with wokeness”

LOL, then go ahead fund another $200M dragon age game, put taash in the next game, make him say non-binary again with pronoun selector, I double dare you.

also don’t forget to make all the character design look like modern audience slop (read:ugly)
I know this may be hard to understand, young padawan, but I don't fund games. Also, they problems of Veilguard go beyond whatever issues you presented. And yes, I hate the art style.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
My wallet does my talking and that's as far as it goes.
I may have an opinion on the subject with other people discussing the topic but going after members of the development team?
97% of the people that didn't or did buy the game aren't like that, sure if we had a one to one we would tell them our opinion but that's as far as it would go.
The problem with the toxicity of people on the internet is they have been given the ammo and the means to be that way by the very people that are claiming to be victims.
It's wrong but how you gonna defend someone poking a Bear.
 
The YT army is doing its work, and as you expect, they are cooking this less obnoxious, yet equally wrong, smooth-brained, and not-intelligent-enough David Jaffe-type dude.

The relationship between fans and devs/media is completely broken...Is this relationship worth saving, is even possible to save it?

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AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Presenting a rational idea to irrational people won’t illicit the response from the irrational he hopes.

Who do we complain to about thier social commentary and lectures.
 
Having to read your employees' dumb fucking tirades against their own customer base time and time again entitles me to a wee bit of Schadenfreude I believe. Seems like a fair trade-off.
 

GHG

Gold Member
The YT army is doing its work, and as you expect, they are cooking this less obnoxious, yet equally wrong, smooth-brained, and not-intelligent-enough David Jaffe-type dude.

The relationship between fans and devs/media is completely broken...Is this relationship worth saving, is even possible to save it?

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He's getting utterly destroyed in the comments, and instead of him just leaving it be he's doubling down and making it worse.

Absolute clown.
 

digimaster7

Neo Member
I know this may be hard to understand, young padawan, but I don't fund games. Also, they problems of Veilguard go beyond whatever issues you presented. And yes, I hate the art style.
I can say the same to your previous comment. Veilguard’s failure goes beyond “Veilguard fucking sucked”
 
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