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Captain America: Brave New World | Official Trailer
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Tiago Rodrigues
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I enjoyed the fact that big ass head that showed up on Eternals has been finally mentioned. And seems like the plot is moving forward quite a bit? Avengers being assembled again, finally some closure for the Hulk movie after lik 15 years...etc.
It seems to me this movie was written during that uncertain period for the MCU though and they didn't advance too much of the plot because maybe they weren't sure where to go after Kang flopped and all that. It's a movie that played it too safe. I think that's a better way to describe it.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
I was thinking about something.
Around the time when Marvel Studios would've started planning the transition into this mantle-swap-happy ANAD stuff, there was a lot of support through the press (obviously), discussion forums, Reddit, Twitter, YT, etc all in favor for it. In retrospect, it seems very astroturfed and artificial. Because as these movies are coming out and failing, all of that big talk has gone hush and even flipped in spaces where it was heavily supported.
I especially remember the endless debates about Jane Foster Thor. Donald Blake this, Beta Ray Bill that, on and on and on. It wasn't a piping hot debate because Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel wasn't hugely popular in the first place, but it was similar for Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel. Ofc, Marvel Comics and the activist media were doing everything they could to pretend like these were the biggest smash hits since Spidey - but much of the narrative-bending support fell out from under it when The Avengers game flopped and even before the Ms. Marvel D+ series bombed. I also noticed a lot less in the way of campaigning in support for Falcon Cap by the end of FAWS.
Obviously a large part of this is just natural vibe shift because of a string of shite movies and TV shows; but this stuff was cratering comic sales as early as 2014. Why was there so much zealous support for it in the first place if not for marketing dollars being used to astroturf/feign audience support? I'm probably not saying anything groundbreaking, but I haven't seen it put forward elsewhere.
Around the time when Marvel Studios would've started planning the transition into this mantle-swap-happy ANAD stuff, there was a lot of support through the press (obviously), discussion forums, Reddit, Twitter, YT, etc all in favor for it. In retrospect, it seems very astroturfed and artificial. Because as these movies are coming out and failing, all of that big talk has gone hush and even flipped in spaces where it was heavily supported.
I especially remember the endless debates about Jane Foster Thor. Donald Blake this, Beta Ray Bill that, on and on and on. It wasn't a piping hot debate because Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel wasn't hugely popular in the first place, but it was similar for Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel. Ofc, Marvel Comics and the activist media were doing everything they could to pretend like these were the biggest smash hits since Spidey - but much of the narrative-bending support fell out from under it when The Avengers game flopped and even before the Ms. Marvel D+ series bombed. I also noticed a lot less in the way of campaigning in support for Falcon Cap by the end of FAWS.
Obviously a large part of this is just natural vibe shift because of a string of shite movies and TV shows; but this stuff was cratering comic sales as early as 2014. Why was there so much zealous support for it in the first place if not for marketing dollars being used to astroturf/feign audience support? I'm probably not saying anything groundbreaking, but I haven't seen it put forward elsewhere.
Revolutionary
Member
I don't think it'd be much of a problem if the show was good. The problem is that the show sucks and is mostly a waste of time designed to keep suckers subbed to Disney+ as long as possible.
The Penguin will probably be considered required viewing for The Batman 2, but it's not as big of an ask because The Penguin is actually a good TV show.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Does anyone know what was changed for the China release of this film?
It's funny enough to make USA and Japan to head to head instead of something more logical, but I also wonder how they handled any dialogue changes or face hiding because the main character is black.
It's funny enough to make USA and Japan to head to head instead of something more logical, but I also wonder how they handled any dialogue changes or face hiding because the main character is black.
Not sure they changed anything, and if they did, it didn't help.
Captain America: Brave New World China Box Office: Witnesses A Harsh Dip Of Almost 87% Owing To The Negative Word-Of-Mouth
The report further stated that Captain America: Brave New World's Maoyan score is worse than The Marvels. Read on
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I dunno why the west keeps chasing this Chinese box office, it never seems to perform well for them.
Though the Ne Zhan 2 film seems to be CRUSHING IT over there so may e it's mostly just bad timing?
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Nah man Spider-Man is Marvel most boring character, I would rather it be Doctor Strange
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
The former widow vouched for them JUST BEFORE the soldiers got mind controlled and tried to kill them all. Your theater must have skipped the rest of that scene
AJUMP23
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Cherry Blossom CG battle looks rough.
Yeah, but there are a lot of silly shenanigans in the film.
"Hey, the bad guy uses cell phones to trigger his puppets!"
"Ok, let's keep using them, and make sure one is near the president AT ALL TIMES!"
and "Hey, I think this song is somehow connected"
"Ok, let's play it! Hmmm, no one acted strange, I guess we are all ok, even though we know fuck all about how this mind control works!"
Sure, you gonna just move forward with the plot sometimes, but you can't deny that the mechanics of The Leaders manipulations are CLUNKY at best. For a "tense, intricate, spy thriller" this is not a good thing. There is very little rhyme or reason behind it, there is virtually no tension created by it, no suspicion about people, conflict between characters, just a "whelp, guess he got mind controlled 'cause the bad guy got a brain scan of him or whatever, let's move on" attitude. This is excusable if the rest of the film is exceptional, but when it is not then these issues get magnified.
Revolutionary
Member
Theater ceiling collapsed during a screening of the movie but only two people were in attendance so no injuries
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Alx
Member
4DX is going too far...
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
Let me start by saying this was the first movie I’ve seen in a cinema in 10+ years ever since I’ve had one at home.
Let my second point be the last ‘super hero’ movie I watched was Logan.
I had 4 hours to waste while Tesla replaced a windscreen, service centre is next to shopping centre cbf shopping somewhere so for 2 hours and the only movie on at midday how bad can it be? $37 later.
Absolute fucking slop, if I didn’t have to wait on the car I would have walked out within 45 minutes. I have no idea how anyone consumes this media, there was only 2 other people in attendance both also there by themselves so may have also been in the same situation.
I knew marvel was bad but I didn’t realise it was that bad, nothing redeemable at all.
Let my second point be the last ‘super hero’ movie I watched was Logan.
I had 4 hours to waste while Tesla replaced a windscreen, service centre is next to shopping centre cbf shopping somewhere so for 2 hours and the only movie on at midday how bad can it be? $37 later.
Absolute fucking slop, if I didn’t have to wait on the car I would have walked out within 45 minutes. I have no idea how anyone consumes this media, there was only 2 other people in attendance both also there by themselves so may have also been in the same situation.
I knew marvel was bad but I didn’t realise it was that bad, nothing redeemable at all.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
Theater ceiling collapsed during a screening of the movie but only two people were in attendance so no injuries
I can't watch any of the Venom films. Between Hardy's "acting" and that obnoxious venom voice over, they are actively bad, not just mediocre (IMHO).
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I’m no regular superhero movie watcher, but if marvel can’t even get a captain America movie right (when the past one’s got good reviews) something is wrong.
Then again maybe if I see this in my streaming box one day I’ll watch it and like it. Black Adam got got grilled, but didn’t think it was too bad. It’s the same rock like in every other movie he’s been in but I thought it was ok.
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