Vile
Not surprised it's allowed here
not really, report the post
the mods probably haven't stepped inside this thread yet
nvm the deed is done
Vile
Not surprised it's allowed here
Always have perspective when calling another government evil. The perspective that our shit stinks just as much as the rest of them. You just can't read about it in the news/papers.
"Chinese" and "Big Sticks" does not compute.
With the "big sticks" please
Chinas obsession with blocking foreign social media is undesirable is my opinion as someone who works there.
I love to see how mad they get about it. Behaving like children. There is lots to say about Trumps Twitter ramblings but China behaves so unsecure in this case. I read an article in a Chinese newspaper that described Xi Jinpings political behaviour as a gold standard for international behaviour. Yes of course.
The best thing are still those weekly press conferences where they cry and complain about everything that is not up to their standard. I think China complained about Japans PM visit to Pearl Habour more than any other countries talked about in general. Day after day, just complaining about what other foreign leaders are doing (while trying to push the massacre of nanjing on the public stage).
They are soooo unsecure.
No, it's about definitions, labels, and the unhelpfulness of hyperbole, not whataboutism. Evil is one of the worst labels you can put on an organization. What do you do in the face of pure evil if not utterly wipe it off the face of the planet? What happens if everyone is called evil, including us? What's the point then? It's useless as a descriptor to help us get any closer to understanding global politics and the motivations of the millions of people that comprise a country. Do we really want to back to back to Bush era Axis of Evil foreign policy?Of course. But you're essentially agreeing with my post then and then trying to resort to whataboutism. We all know what the US, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, British Empire, France, have done. The post was whether the communist party of china was evil or reprehensive. And then if we are looking at 2016, which government is ultimately better by todays standards. A Barack Obama American government or a Xi Jinping Chinese government or a Vladimir Putin Russian Government.
With all his twitter nonsense, Trump will Homer Simpson himself a favorable trade victory and then take all the credit that it was planned from the start.
No, it's about definitions, labels, and the unhelpfulness of hyperbole, not whataboutism. Evil is one of the worst labels you can put on an organization. What do you do in the face of pure evil if not utterly wipe it off the face of the planet? What happens if everyone is called evil, including us? What's the point then? It's useless as a descriptor to help us get any closer to understanding global politics and the motivations of the millions of people that comprise a country. Do we really want to back to back to Bush era Axis of Evil foreign policy?
Trying to elevate discourse isn't the same as downplaying human rights abuses.I don't want ambassadors, or world leaders to call China's government evil. With that said, I don't think that regular people should downplay the serious human rights abuses, state-sponsored suppression of information, illegal grab of massive swaths of the ocean, and oppression of Tibetans in order to avoid using a strong word.
LOL what do you know about Tibetans and Falun Gong practitioners? And Taiwan and Hong Kong?
Ugh, couldn't he found other totalitarian state to challenge? preferably one with less influence in the world economy?
A trade war is gonna fuck everything for everyone.
No, the other ones are good. The Philippines are murdering thousands of citizens a month and it's just tremendous.
No, the other ones are good. The Philippines are murdering thousands of citizens a month and it's just tremendous.
Alright then trade war it is. A $365 billion annual trade deficit cannot continue. If economic peace requires us to accept significantly disadvantageous one-sided trade arrangements then we choose confrontation instead.
Frankly, I'm concerned by all the cheering and support for China in this thread. Whose side are they on? We finally have an administration willing to stand up to China and represent America's best interests and they act like the administration is the problem.
Alright then trade war it is. A $365 billion annual trade deficit cannot continue. If economic peace requires us to accept significantly disadvantageous one-sided trade arrangements then we choose confrontation instead.
Frankly, I'm concerned by all the cheering and support for China in this thread. Whose side are they on? We finally have an administration willing to stand up to China and represent America's best interests and they act like the administration is the problem.
For all of our sake, Twitter needs to ban his account.
Thats what I'm hoping this is all leading to.For all of our sake, Twitter needs to ban his account.
Then Trump moves to Gab, Gab gets loads of free publicity, and Twitter's stock drops.Thats what I'm hoping this is all leading to.
"In the interest of national security, twitter bans the president of the united states."
Pretty much anything to get him to shut his mouth.
It's pronounced GI-NA
Same reason why Trump and Putin will probably be at each others throats soon enough, as well.
Again, you people want to pick a fight with China... With Donald Trump as the Captain of your ship?
Ooh trade war, how dramatic.
I guess it's possible, but I feel like both sides have too much to lose to let this escalate out of hand. Although maybe I shouldn't underestimate Trump's stupidity.
Ooh trade war, how dramatic.
I guess it's possible, but I feel like both sides have too much to lose to let this escalate out of hand. Although maybe I shouldn't underestimate Trump's stupidity.
Alright then trade war it is. A $365 billion annual trade deficit cannot continue. If economic peace requires us to accept significantly disadvantageous one-sided trade arrangements then we choose confrontation instead.
Frankly, I'm concerned by all the cheering and support for China in this thread. Whose side are they on? We finally have an administration willing to stand up to China and represent America's best interests and they act like the administration is the problem.
One ignorant person in this thread doesn't mean we want this.
It's definitely more than one, I've seen this before in the other Trump vs China threads. Whatever their grievances with China they're glad to have a President 'stand up to them', without realizing that President is the most unqualified man in that position.
It's definitely more than one, I've seen this before in the other Trump vs China threads. Whatever their grievances with China they're glad to have a President 'stand up to them', without realizing that President is the most unqualified man in that position.
ive seen this sentiment too. What did China do to the US again? Afaik it was CEOs running the corporations that sold American workers out, not China. Same thing goes for illegal immigrants. Its their fault for taking the job and not the fault of the business owner for hiring them?
"Stand up to them" is a failing in basic understanding of diplomacy. US plays the One China word game to keep Taiwan off the negotiating table and works with China to keep N. Korea in check. Things like the TPP were needed to gain leverage in the region and the carrot of WTO inclusion for China helps the US. Trump with a few tweets and lack of forethought has given away more leverage to China making it much harder to actually stand up to them.
Yep I'm simpleton who thinks that murderous dictatorship regimes that threaten to invade other states are "evil".
So I'm afraid I'll have to wait with praising them for their climate efforts (which btw they are one of the most responsible for current pollution) until they stop murdering people while the world pretends to look other way.
I love how Republicans are worried about not upsetting Russia and love that Trump is brown-nosing Putin but have no worries about Trump starting war with China.
"Standing up to Russia" is dumb but "standing up to China" is smart.
What a fucking hacky joke, lol."Chinese" and "Big Sticks" does not compute.
I presume this is a reference to "speak softly and carry a big stick" used by Roosevelt.
Who the fuck are they to tell us how to conduct our affairs?
Good. America needs to bleed so that Trump goes into the history books as the absolute worst president of all time.
I agree with you that the US press is free to criticize the government. Under Donnie, though, there's been the threats of not allowing press access if he doesn't like them (read: they criticize them). No, it's not the same as literally firewalling everyone, but it's the same thought process and it's scary as fuck that half of America doesn't seem to care.
Oh yeah? Trump has the bigest sticks, the most beautiful, fantastic sticks.
You'd actively root against the entire nation's well being just because you don't like the president and want to see him fail? I'd advise against taking that strategy out of the Republican playbook.Good. America needs to bleed so that Trump goes into the history books as the absolute worst president of all time.
It's ironic that they would go back that far. Perhaps the Chinese diplomats are actually hoping there is still a better USA to appeal to. Looking at the dumbass replies in this thread, I'd say their hope is misplaced.