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China slams Trump's Twitter policy. Possible trade war.

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Grazzt

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What kind of question is this? If so, without getting personal, more than you'd think.

Then you should know Fa Lun Gong is a cult which is responsible for hundreds of deaths, and Tibetans don't really care about what western media and Dalai Lama have been claiming all these years.
 

Madness

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Then you should know Fa Lun Gong is a cult which is responsible for hundreds of deaths, and Tibetans don't really care about what western media and Dalai Lama have been claiming all these years.

Lol, now I know you're nothing more than a troll. What makes Falun Gong a cult? Every single country outside China respects the adherents and does not consider them a cult except China which has a history of abuse and torture towards them, so much so that a lot of political refugees to Canada and Australia are Falun Gong practioners. But nah, it is their weird cult organization that allows them to be jailed and killed.

And you're kidding me about Tibet right? Have you ever heard the Dalai Lama speak? Have you ever visited Dharamsala and seen the thousands of Tibetans forced to leave, heard how they yearn for their homeland. The Tibetans no longer care because they have been under constant threat for over 60+ years now. Whether it was occupation directly by the Peoples Liberation Army, the relocation and transfer of thousands of ethnic Han Chinese into Tibet, the mass brainwashing and propaganda against them. They were able to pick their own Panchen Lama and the Chinese government secretly abducted the poor child and he was never seen from again, only stating he was being looked after and installed their own Panchen Lama who many Tibetan buddhists view wth disdain because he is a CPC puppet. In the past several years do you know how many Tibetans have self immolated in protest. But we rarely hear it because Chinese control and propaganda is so great. So save the bullshit. That is the one thing the Chinese government needs to realize. They can't force the rest of the world to believe their propaganda no matter how hard they try. Whether it is their illegal land grabs, their discrimination against religious groups, the self delusion.
 

Renekton

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I don't want him to keep this up, because America is only going to crumble faster with him pulling this shit.
From our POV, America is just so insanely far ahead of everyone in tech, military and economic leverage.

Myself I don't see Trump at his absolute worst will help China narrow the gap much.
 

kmfdmpig

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You have more faith than me.

I find the country's attitude towards this the most troubling aspect.

America is going backwards. We're regressing. We're getting worse. I hope we pull a Canada and realize out mistakes, but I'm not so sure anymore. This really bothers me, that people don't seem to care that our government wants to take us back to a more unequal, shittier time, and that so many Americans are okay with it.

I hate all of it. China gets maligned so much, but I think a lot of it stems from racism (not in that the acts aren't as bad as they seem, but rather people pretend to care more than they do about it and act more indignant when it's really a front for their bigotry), so it's always grating when people (especially Americans) keep parroting this EVIL YELLOW PERIL shit while not seeing to see that China is getting better and America is getting worse.

Oh well. We'll see how this plays out.



Do you really believe this? What leads you to this conclusion? We're a world leader, sure, but I'm not getting where this "insanely far ahead" sentiment is coming from.

I'm sure that some people do have that as their motivation, but I honestly don't think it's a major part of it. China is a superpower that has a very different view of the world, and that makes many people nervous. China creating incidents to push the issue such as the spy plane prisoners and grabbing the underwater drone don't help, nor does China's highly unusual claim of a huge swath of the ocean.

If most negative views about China were based on racism they'd likely have similar views about South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, and other countries, but American views on each are quite different from the views regarding North Korea and (to a lesser extent) mainland China. In my experience most Americans dislike China based on the government's policies, not the race of those living there. I'm one of the first in this thread that labelled China as "evil" (I likely would not have if I had known it would cause such a derail). I think Trump is evil as well. My disgust with the government of China does not extend to the people of China. In fact the people from China I met while living in Japan were mostly quite wonderful and most were not a fan of their own government.

I agree that the government of China is getting better, but it still has a long way to go. Suppression of information is a big deal to me, and I don't think I'll have much respect for any government that puts so much effort or resources into keeping its citizenry from accessing information.

I think most Americans do fear that the US is regressing due to the election. I'm hopeful that the press, citizenry, and more moderate members of congress/the supreme court can help minimize the damage until we get someone qualified into the presidency again, but I'm not holding my breath. The fact that the people elected Trump is even worse than Trump himself, but I take solace in knowing that it was an electoral college fluke and not a popular wave as well as knowing that younger voters were overwhelmingly anti-Trump.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Why jump straight to trade war when they can just hack all every Republican politician and dump their info online? We've seen the shit they'll say in public. Imagine how fucked up they are in private.
 
Why jump straight to trade war when they can just hack all every Republican politician and dump their info online? We've seen the shit they'll say in public. Imagine how fucked up they are in private.

Because saying messed up shit just rewards them with all branches of the government. The more fucked up shit Republican say the more people vote for them.
 

gaugebozo

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Everybody needs to get used to this: Trump talks a huge game in public, is a kitten in private, then does whatever he wants at the end. Chances are here he's going to buckle about everything he's said about China so far.
 
China is not backing down and are ready to fuck Americas world up. Its one thing to talk out of you ass about corporations and take credit for jobs you didn't save and bullying poor countries like Mexico its another to fuck around with a world power and an authoritarian one at that. China and countries like it are not going to allow themselves to be ridiculed in public as it is seen as a weakness of its government officials and fear it emboldens social unrest.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-06/china-said-to-mull-scrutiny-of-u-s-firms-if-trump-starts-feud-ixl2je3s

China Ready to Step Up Scrutiny of U.S. Firms If Trump Starts Feud: Sources

China is prepared to step up its scrutiny of U.S. companies in the event President-elect Donald Trump takes punitive measures against Chinese goods and triggers a trade war between the world’s two biggest economies after he takes office, according to people familiar with the matter.

The options include subjecting well-known U.S. companies or ones that have large Chinese operations to tax or antitrust probes, the people said, asking not to be identified because the matter isn’t public. Other possible measures include the launch of anti-dumping investigations and scaling back government purchases of American products, according to the people.
 

Breads

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I can't tell if this is satire, or if you really don't care how it will affects others unless it affects you?

Before I answer keep in mind that anything you add to what I have to say is your invention and I won't fight you on it.

Because no - I don't care how the fact that Trump tweets effects other people and shame on you if you try to imply that my sentiments extend to the content of the tweets themselves.

If he wants to lower discourse to 127 characters or less then that's on him. I really don't give a shit how 'undesirable' any figurehead finds it. The chinese government has a stick up their ass about social media and if they want to punish the people over the fact that Trump has a twitter account (and again, not the content of the tweets themselves) the one you should have a problem with is China. Not me. Not Trump.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike Trump (and myself). This shouldn't be one of them.
 
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