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Colin Moriarty calls out Hot-Take Negativity on Social Media regarding February 2025 State of Play

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These can both be true. He’s not a journalist, he’s just a guy that speaks on the internet and people pay him for that
I mean he doesn't work for IGN anymore, but he is still a journalist whether he is independent or not.
What he does now is no different from when he was at IGN.
Sure he isn't being invited to host Dice like Greg because he isn't in with the woke crowd but I take his word over any of the above.
So unless you only listen to big media outlets which in this day & age is....well need I say more?
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
I hope so, but that doesn't change the fact that this gen is washed.
They need to fire Hermen Hulst ASAP and find someone in the like of Shuhei or even pre-Tencent Layden.
During that interview with Shuhei that people are posting, it actually seems that according to him, all the execs like Shuhei and Layden are confident that Playstation is in good hands with Hulst and all the others running the business now.

If they think so, who are we to say differently?
Clearly they all know what they're doing, seeing how this gen is easily their most profitable ever.
 
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Fabieter

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To me it looks more like PS3, where Sony is restructuring during the first half and gets into their stride during the second half. We'll probably not see the actual results until next-gen, like we did last-gen.

So we should wait en entire gen to see golden first party times again when they sold us a one grand console they aint even releasing games themselves on.

If they think so, who are we to say differently.
Clearly they all know what they're doinf, seeing how this gen is easily their most profitable ever.

It's also the most low effort generation ever. They are basically selling on brand power alone which was completely build from the old guard.
 
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Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
Itd about output. If the ps3 alreafy had x86 all those games would have been crossgen. Gt 6 as well.

If you prefer current output fine. I had more fun in those years listed above.

Except they weren't.

You can't take the negatives of today, i.e. longer development times but ignore the advances which was aligned architecture, but somehow try and say what if the architecture then was aligned. What if the development times were greater back then?

God of War Ragnarok is almost as long as God of War 1-3 combined... but you don't take into consideration game length when you're talking about productivity.

Naughty Dog pumped out Uncharted games on PS3, but they were collectively 27.5 hours long. Uncharted 4 by itself is 15 hours long and Lost Legacy was 7 hours long.

Crash 1-3 is about 15 hours long...

Gamers just have no idea what they're talking about....
 

ProtoByte

Weeb Underling
During that interview with Shuhei that people are posting, it actually seems that according to him, all the execs like Shuhei and Layden are confident that Playstation is in good hands with Hulst and all the others running the business now.
Then screw what they have to say now. I'm talking about them in the PS3-PS4 era. If they were told back then that 9 major titles had been canned and each one took up 3-5 years of dev time from major studios, they'd have gone postal.
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
So we should wait en entire gen to see golden first party times again when they sold us a one grand console they aint even releasing games themselves on.
Who says you need to wait an entire gen?
There's enough to play and there's still a lot of titles in development over at Sony, incl non-gaas sp.

Why is it that this needs to be said over and over?
It's like explaining to kids that Santa is coming every year.
 

Zacfoldor

Member
Come on guys, daddy ain't home but you know yall were fucking off during that showcase. You know you did wrong and you don't respect anyone enough to let them call you out for it. Gaming cannot survive on the 3 games a year you want to see trailers for. Sometimes there are games that appeal to a niche that might also be in the show.

What you did is like if Garth Brooks had an opening act and yall boo'd the shit out of them cause you wanted to see Garth.
 
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Killjoy-NL

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Then screw what they have to say now. I'm talking about them in the PS3-PS4 era. If they were told back then that 9 major titles had been canned and each one took up 3-5 years of dev time from major studios, they'd have gone postal.
You'd rather have them take 8+ years to develop a game, like TLG, only to have people bitch and moan it looks 'last-gen' (ignoring the fact that it was never able to run on PS3)?
 

Fabieter

Member
Who says you need to wait an entire gen?
There's enough to play and there's still a lot of titles in development over at Sony, incl non-gaas sp.

Why is it that this needs to be said over and over?
It's like explaining to kids that Santa is coming every year.

Having only one or two games released each year isn't really a lot. Over the next few years, we'll likely see more "moneyhats" to fill the gaps left by all the canceled projects. Why should we be happy about that?

for example I wondered if we might get something like Demon's Souls 2 from Bluepoint, and now we wont hear from them again for the rest of the generation. Imagine defending such poor management.
 

ProtoByte

Weeb Underling
Huh? Did I miss something?
Game was announced coming up to 3.5 years ago. Creative director left, game director was removed, and narrative lead (who argued for and justified the push for queer theory propaganda) left as well. The likes of Grubb had indicated that it was set to come out this year. It's clearly been pushed back. The leaks probably didn't help, and it might be a good thing. There are aspects of the project (like Jean Grey) that need overhauling if they expect to pass over 2 well received X-Men games on the back of this one.
 

DryvBy

Gold Member
Sony could show off anything and the extreme anti-woke woke folks would find a reason to complain because the marketing manager at one point in time said oh my gosh instead of OMG. People like to complain. I liked it because I like action games. This was their best in years for me lol
 

Fabieter

Member
God of War Ragnarok is almost as long as God of War 1-3 combined

Game length isn't a sorly positive for me. Some of those "modern" games have shitty pacing because of it. Super linear shorter games ain't really less expensive if they go for the same high end tech.

It's just shows that they need to focus more on smaller games these days as well.
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
Having only one or two games released each year isn't really a lot. Over the next few years, we'll likely see more "moneyhats" to fill the gaps left by all the canceled projects. Why should we be happy about that?

for example I wondered if we might get something like Demon's Souls 2 from Bluepoint, and now we wont hear from them again for the rest of the generation. Imagine defending such poor management.
Imagine getting mad about not getting a game that never even existed.
 

Fabieter

Member
No you can't , because Sony doesn't have a studio to develop such a game because those studios got shutdown due to not enough people buying said games.

Financially you could totally do it. Well most of their gaas burned money and they are still trying to do it. Seems like a management problem. Hulst needs the boot like yesterday.
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
Financially you could totally do it. Well most of their gaas burned money and they are still trying to do it. Seems like a management problem. Hulst needs the boot like yesterday.
And then they start developing another TLG-like game, people will bitch that it takes another 8 years, don't buy it because it's not AAA and the studio gets shutdown again.

See how that logic works?
 
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bender

What time is it?
That’s because you’re Mexican.
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Fabieter

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And then they start developing another TLG-like game, people will bitch that it takes another 8 years, don't buy it because it's not AAA and the studio gets shutdown again.

See how that logic works?

Iam not that people. Why do you care about others when you said previously that you don't care as long you has something to play.

I would prefer if they invest in experiences like that any day of the year over their shitty gaas strategy.
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
Iam not that people. Why do you care about others when you said previously that you don't care as long you has something to play.

I would prefer if they invest in experiences like that any day of the year over their shitty gaas strategy.
Do I have to care about you to have a discussion with you?

And for what it's worth, I bought all Team ICO games and I like both those and gaas.
I'm not obsessed over particular genres.

But you do you. I don't think we're going to agree on anything here.
 

Fabieter

Member
But you do you. I don't think we're going to agree on anything here.

I guess that's what happens when one person is overly positive about the topic, and the other isn't.

I'm a big fan, but their pricing, services (seriously, those PS+ offerings and pricing are terrible), and overall gaming output feel awful. I've given them the benefit of the doubt a lot, but I think it’s gotten worse year after year.

Iam in the same boat as ProtoByte ProtoByte iam done giving them the benefit of the doubt.
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
I guess that's what happens when one person is overly positive about the topic, and the other isn't.

I'm a big fan, but their pricing, services (seriously, those PS+ offerings and pricing are terrible), and overall gaming output feel awful. I've given them the benefit of the doubt a lot, but I think it’s gotten worse year after year.

Iam in the same boat as ProtoByte ProtoByte iam done giving them the benefit of the doubt.
I'm not overly positive at all. I'm indifferent.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
Game length isn't a sorly positive for me. Some of those "modern" games have shitty pacing because of it. Super linear shorter games ain't really less expensive if they go for the same high end tech.

It's just shows that they need to focus more on smaller games these days as well.

You just have a warped view of it.

Somehow in your mind, you'd rather they break up God of War Ragnarok into two games, space it out by a couple years and charge 70 dollars for both of them and maybe give you an extra boss fight or two as if that would make it worth it.
 

Fabieter

Member
You just have a warped view of it.

Somehow in your mind, you'd rather they break up God of War Ragnarok into two games, space it out by a couple years and charge 70 dollars for both of them and maybe give you an extra boss fight or two as if that would make it worth it.

Yea i don't like overly bloated games. Bad pacing and loads of side filler sucks.

Those games are a far cry of the likes of kdc 2 or w3 where side content actually feel meaningful. Gow, Horizon FW, GoT all would have been better without the bloated and lame side content and better pacing.

Astro Bot was made in three years and it's a relatively short games. Let's see if they learn the right lesson from the game. I doubt it though.
 
I mean he doesn't work for IGN anymore, but he is still a journalist whether he is independent or not.
What he does now is no different from when he was at IGN.

He doesn’t any due diligence, that’s why he himself caveated claims of concord’s budget with the comment “I’m not in journalism anymore”

He would have never ran with that concord story at IGN
 

yurinka

Member
Well, the recipe you describe is the recipe for a show that got bad marks from people and leads to people like Colin whining. If Sony is fine with getting bad marks and getting criticized all over social media, they can keep doing that.

I didn't say a dozen megatons. I said one. If you can't drop one megaton don't do a show. Again, it's what Nintendo does and why people like their shows. It’s about putting on a good show. Like MGS3 Delta is probably going to be good, people are looking forward to it but it’s appearance on a show is not going to impress anyone because we know about it and have known about it for years.

This is how it is and why Sony keeps getting crapped on for these shows.
The recipe I describe is the one that makes them make more money from selling games and subs than ever and having the biggest active userbase ever. It gets record views and it's super effective.

This is the important topic for them, not what a few childish fanboy haters say on internet because they are fans of rival console, or because Sony doesn't bring back a two decades old IP that nobody bought and nobody would buy now.

They make these shows to highlight some of the main games coming in the next few months to market them, including a diverse lineup that covers different niches, with some games for some types of players, another games for other type of players, etc. And when ready and makes strategically sense for them, to make some important announcements. Just like the Nintendo shows, these videos these are for this, not to show megatons.

The structure and goal is the same in both Sony and Nintendo videos, but you happen to like the Nintendo ones and dislike the Sony ones because you're a Nintendo fan and not a Sony one. PS fans get excited with a MH Wilds trailer with its main theme because feel nostalgia of the PS2 and PSP entries, an Onimusha gameplay reveal, with Metal Gear, seeing Days Gone or Housemarque back, seeing cool PSVR2 games for those who have PSVR2 etc. Even many with getting WWE news (I don't like it but it's a top seller game).

They won't like all the games, but minimum they'll see around half a dozen of them that they'll love. Other PS fan like love other half a dozen of these games, most of which won't be shared with the other user. And another player will like other ones, etc.

Speak for yourself

We are getting DS2 and GoY this year

Saros, and possibly Intergalactic and Wolverine in 2026
We may also see Venom, Cory's new IP, Firesprite's next game (Until Dawn 2?) being released in 2025/2026. In addition to some smaller 2nd party games, some from China or Korea, from where we can get some great surprise as Stellar Blade was.

Plus we'll get the one that pretty likely will be the biggest money maker of all of them: Marathon. Sony will have very strong 2025 and 2026 years as usual,. We'll eat good.

There is a prevailing perception that Sony isn't releasing a steady stream of exclusive titles or presenting them in SoP/showcases in a way that sustains hype and goodwill for the platform. Whether it's valid or not is a different debate, but the perception exists. You may not feel it. I may not feel it, but it's there.
This is flateartherism fake concerns, more than a perception. Whiny fanboys that never will be happy no matter what they show.

Last year Sony's games (not counting 3rd party exclusives) won around 200 awards and was the company with more awarded games (around half a dozen of them), including the one with more awards of the year and Sony's fastest selling game on their history. And it isn't something new, it's almost the same almost every year.

In 2025 they'll have GoT and DS sequels, plus for the first time current gen only new MH, AC, GTA, Bungie (if not delayed, pretty likely they'll release at least an open alpha or early access) or Rainbow 6 Siege (and maybe more top IPs) stuff. It's going to be another insane and super busy year.
 
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yogaflame

Member
Its very simple, wants more true exclusives, and truly exclusives which will not be ported to PC. And most fans does not want woke crap, so stop making characters ugly and adding agendas like for example pronoun, and gender ideology narrative.
 
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Famipan

Member
How can people be disappointed they aren't eligible for the Days Gone Remaster for 10USD since they never bought the game but got to try it though PS Plus? (PS plus sucks btw. Don't pay for it.)
Also, the digital edition just costs 25 USD or something anyway. And it's worth all its costs.
 
Reminder that you were a Concord stan before it crashed and burned like the Hindenburg at release.

Don't throw stones in a glass house. 🤭 :messenger_grinning_sweat: 🤗

You’re the Hellblade 2 Stan, the Avowed Stan, and the South of Midnight Stan

So I guess maybe you can teach a class on stanning one day to all of us novices, Professor.

:lollipop_yum:
 
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Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
Yea i don't like overly bloated games. Bad pacing and loads of side filler sucks.

Those games are a far cry of the likes of kdc 2 or w3 where side content actually feel meaningful. Gow, Horizon FW, GoT all would have been better without the bloated and lame side content and better pacing.

Astro Bot was made in three years and it's a relatively short games. Let's see if they learn the right lesson from the game. I doubt it though.

Maybe these games aren't for you then, but they're getting mass market success.

Metal Gear Solid is one of the best games of all time. The wolf section and the back tracking to change the key card are terrible paced sections of the game. It's still a masterpiece.

You have blockers on and it's pretty clear. You ignore what you want to ignore and you forgive what you want to forgive.

The original FF7 had all sorts of pacing issues.

Astro Bot didn't sell nearly as well as any of the other games you mentioned. Nor do you give Sony any real credit for Astro Bot.
 
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