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Digital Foundry - Upscaling Face-Off: PS5 Pro PSSR vs PC DLSS/FSR 3.1 in Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Gentlemen...

war GIF
 
I wonder how much easier to train this type of upscaling is for a console with fixed hardware compared to a PC or if it even matters at all. I can't watch the video right now but is it discussed?
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Hilarious that Alex doesn't want to discuss framerate here... and only focuses on image quality that appears nearly identical at play...
You’ll complain about it if PSSR doesn’t compare favorably. Last time, you accused them of using 4K DLAA when the footage was labeled DLSS.

I don’t know why some of the usual suspects want a comparison when they hate DF and especially Alex and unless Alex tells you what you want to hear, you will piss and moan about his analysis. He does it on a 4090? You will complain he chooses a top-tier card to make the Pro look bad. He concludes that DLSS is better? You will find things to bitch about. The silliness I’ve seen such as one guy saying DF wants to make PSSR look bad by cropping the image is nothing short of comical.

It will probably come and within the first 10 posts, you’ll have people shitting on him and on the first page, it’ll be one complaint after the other about how unfair his analysis is.
Like clockwork.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
Like clockwork.

Just because you go into defense mode from the start doesn't change the biased or selective reporting.

The videos on framerates are going to come, because they have to, but it's a choice to ignore them now. Especially for the over farmed content they're going to make out of the PS5 Pro.

That you already know they'll choose to do a 4090 instead of a more similar performing card is actually evidence that you know they're biased... but somehow you think that's a defense by bringing it up in advance...

I think I know why I have you on ignore.
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Just because you go into defense mode from the start doesn't change the biased or selective reporting.

The videos on framerates are going to come, because they have to, but it's a choice to ignore them now. Especially for the over farmed content they're going to make out of the PS5 Pro.

That you already know they'll choose to do a 4090 instead of a more similar performing card is actually evidence that you know they're biased... but somehow you think that's a defense by bringing it up in advance...
This is a video about the quality of the upscalers. Now you’re complaining about frame rates. You would have found something to complain about no matter what.
I think I know why I have you on ignore.
Cute. You’re a little crybaby who can’t make an argument to save his life. Keep me on ignore for all I care.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
I'm struggling to see a difference except the darker dirt splats (and I'm not sure which is meant to be more correct to the native material).

At the end of the day equivalence in image quality doesn't matter as much as framerate and Alex even admits that this is a horrible title to compare PSSR and DLSS because the internal resolution is so high.

So why make this video? Engagement farming. We're going to see a FLOOD of PS5 Pro content over the next 6 months.
 

NeonGhost

uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
Does pssr have the ability improve from software updates on ps5 pro or is it locked to hardware and can’t ?
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
This is a video about the quality of the upscalers. Now you’re complaining about frame rates. You would have found something to complain about no matter what.

Cute. You’re a little crybaby who can’t make an argument to save his life. Keep me on ignore for all I care.

You think you can tell the quality of an upscaler by image quality alone and not the cost in performance to implement it? Whether that's in PSSRs favor or not.

That's not telling the whole story and anyone interested in the technical aspects of this would agree on that, but that's not what you're doing here.
 

Three

Member
You can see those straight, black lines being a little sharper and more defined on DLSS.

Kudos to Alex for the way he handled this video by the way.
I just realised they're not dirt splats but soft shadows from the bunting. At least I think they are.
 

Salz01

Member
I feel like this is so stupid. It’s click bait material because there is nothing else to compare it to. Bring on stuff like Wukong / Cyberpunk where it actually matters…
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
You think you can tell the quality of an upscaler by image quality alone and not the cost in performance to implement it? Whether that's in PSSRs favor or not.

That's not telling the whole story and anyone interested in the technical aspects of this would agree on that, but that's not what you're doing here.
How do you want him to compare the cost of the upscalers when there’s no DLSS on PlayStation and no PSSR on PC? There’s no GPU even resembling what the Pro has on PC and the settings cannot be matched 1:1. This doesn’t even begin to make sense.
 
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Topher

Identifies as young
I feel like this is so stupid. It’s click bait material because there is nothing else to compare it to. Bring on stuff like Wukong / Cyberpunk where it actually matters…

Don't think DF has access to a PS5 Pro, unfortunately. I'm sure we will get a bunch of comparisons post-launch for games that implement PSSR, but right now they are just working with what has been given to them.
 
Does pssr have the ability improve from software updates on ps5 pro or is it locked to hardware and can’t ?
Insomniac told DF that the PSSR already had updates and improved it significantly, like improving ghosting and reducing runtime and they expects more improvements over time.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
How do you want him to compare the cost of the upscalers when there’s no DLSS on PlayStation and no PSSR on PC? There’s no GPU even resembling what the Pro has on PC and the settings cannot be matched 1:1. This doesn’t even begin to make sense.

There doesn't need to be DLSS on PS5... lol it's a comparison of what's able to drive the same game better... What an odd response...

You try to match visual settings as he's done here, you bring a similar GPU and CPU and you compare framerate. It's pretty simple and they already do that with FSR on PS5 and DLSS on PC... Why are you trying to act brand new?
 
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