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ELDEN RING |OT| One Ring To Rule Them All
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Northeastmonk
Gold Member
the blasphemous blade is going to hit that for 5 points of damage.
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Antwix
Member
I know people can play how they want and blasphemous blade (and Darkmoon gs/moghs spear) have always been "easy mode" but I kinda do enjoy that they got a nerf 
. Never thought it would happen 2 years later.
Edit: and honestly, not even that much of a nerf on dmgs/bb. Just reduced poise damage and no knock down effect. Still does the same damage.
. Never thought it would happen 2 years later.Edit: and honestly, not even that much of a nerf on dmgs/bb. Just reduced poise damage and no knock down effect. Still does the same damage.
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Soodanim
Member
I just cracked myself up on the way to the DLC.
Mohg
Mohg's Shackle
Blood Rotten War Hammer
Wild Swings
Proc bleed
Proc multi hit
Mohg keeps counting
Dies before he even starts to initiate phase 2
A boss that used to be difficult got bullied like I've never bullied a boss before
Mohg
Mohg's Shackle
Blood Rotten War Hammer
Wild Swings
Proc bleed
Proc multi hit
Mohg keeps counting
Dies before he even starts to initiate phase 2
A boss that used to be difficult got bullied like I've never bullied a boss before
ValiantTraveler
Member
Fellow gaffers, please help a tarnished out.
I downloaded and installed both the DLC and latest update, checked the game to make sure the DLC is accessible and turned off the PS4. but then I start the game now and it says “impossible to load the profile as long as the extension is not reinstalled”.
What should I do? If I have to reinstall the whole thing Im gonna have to use my mobile data cause it’s fast but it costs money.
Edit: nevermind. I just had to connect to the internet regardless of how slow it is. Imagine my frustration when the game refused to load.
I downloaded and installed both the DLC and latest update, checked the game to make sure the DLC is accessible and turned off the PS4. but then I start the game now and it says “impossible to load the profile as long as the extension is not reinstalled”.
What should I do? If I have to reinstall the whole thing Im gonna have to use my mobile data cause it’s fast but it costs money.
Edit: nevermind. I just had to connect to the internet regardless of how slow it is. Imagine my frustration when the game refused to load.
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Soodanim
Member
It's all about finding a style you enjoy. BHF is very good, but it's also fun to use the L2s.
I hope you stick with it, there's a lot of good to be had even if you might hit your head against a wall a couple times. Even as a fan since Demon's on PS3 I still have to remind myself that there's a way to beat all enemies and if I died the likelihood is it's my approach that is flawed. Enemy lunges a lot and rolling/running back doesn't work? Time to roll forward through attacks.
sncvsrtoip
Member
Gave it another shot after 2 years and first attempt with samurai build. This time went with shield field and game was way easier so managed to finish it. Game is realy addictive, I sometimes thought about it another day during work and thats not happen often too me. World is realy impressive and amount of secrets its stunning. Graphics are rather weak (way below demon souls remake) but thx too art direction it can looks awsome. Narration is imo terrible, puting scraps of info in weapons description is cheap approach. Had to watch long youtube videos to briefly understand what happened and why (and its still far from being coherent). I heard Elden Ring show a way of how to develop open world games. Imo its far from being truth, its good because its very obscure with secrets but its far from telling good story and thats why it can have this no direction open structure (I dont remember even one npc that I would get connected with not too mention connecting with mute main character is not easy at all ;d). Also without online guides I would be nowhere near finishing it (it tooks me 70h with guides!) and would pass on it bored/frustrated without them. In summary its very good game 8.5/10 but Im surprised with so many 10/10 scores, imo it shouldnt be reviewed only by souls fans.
The_hunter
Member
I'm not disagreeing with your review, but I would like to provide my insight into the style of storytelling that Elden Ring presents.
I like to think that the story in Elden Ring takes a different approach. Most games go for the character driven story with cinematics. Elden Ring on the other hand presents a unique mythology of fantasy that is left up to the player to explore and piece together. It is much like reading about history or mythology from books or on the internet.
You also gain the feeling and emotion of storytelling from the player's actual journey, instead of watching a cinematic that relays that feeling. Stepping into Caelid for the first time or finding a secret underground zone will convey certain emotions to the player the same way watching a cinematic would.
It's a different approach to storytelling. At the end of the day both apporaches are about conveying feelings to the player.
The FromSoft style of storytelling also lends itself great to multiple playthroughs, because it's so cryptic and non-linear. These games are very re-playable friendly as you can try different weapons/builds, and try to peace together more of the mythos.
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Raven117
Member
To the one person who left a message in the Consort Radahn arena (where I couldn’t switch items, but switched actions) and screwed up my best run in probably 8 hours… fuck you.
(I finally got it after probably another 5 hours over three days… with my last run literally going to be the last one before i deleted it from my hard drive).
That is easily the hardest and “worst” boss From has ever done. That was awful and viciously unfun. When I beat it, I felt nothing but relief and continued anger at it.
What a terrible end to an otherwise masterpiece of a game.
(I finally got it after probably another 5 hours over three days… with my last run literally going to be the last one before i deleted it from my hard drive).
That is easily the hardest and “worst” boss From has ever done. That was awful and viciously unfun. When I beat it, I felt nothing but relief and continued anger at it.
What a terrible end to an otherwise masterpiece of a game.
ValiantTraveler
Member
I fought Radahn a couple of time and decided to move on and start Armored Core. By the time I reached him I had my fill. What I enjoyed the most in ER was exploration anyways, not the bosses. I did love some of them like Relanna and Midra, but Radahn was just too much. I didn’t feel the need to prove to myself that I can beat him - especially since there is no worthwhile ending to watch. There are so many games I’d rather spend my time on rather than fight Radahn.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
i hope you can use block while dual-wielding in elden ring 2
Raven117
Member
You are more mature than me in trying to prove to yourself you can beat it. I was pissed off for two weeks.
My favorite part of From games is the exploration...and really the focus on levels. This is why Demon's Souls is still my favorite. The focus on the levels was incredible. (Dark Souls 1 close behind). The levels were the point, not the boss fights. The bosses in Demon's weren't the fast reading twitch-fests that they are now, but much slower and tactical (with alot on positioning).
I wish they would go back to that.
Im just really getting tired of these kinds of boss fights where their attacks have ridiculous tracking and they can spin on their axis once they have committed to some huge attack. Plus unlimited stamina. (Compared to something like Monster Hunter).
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Soodanim
Member
Patch 1.14: https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-114
The headline change is nerfing the last boss.
The other big change is speeding up quick R2s for most weapons, which is a fundamental change to the gameplay. I jumped back in to test, and I've enjoyed it. It definitely opens up options.
Notable weapon changes include Smithscript Dagger's range getting boosted and Hand to Hand weapons getting damage and recovery buffs.
Other weapons/skills/spell buffs and fixes, but some spell buffs like Feathers' reportedly don't make enough of a difference.
No buff for the damaging electric buff incant, no buff for bottles.
The headline change is nerfing the last boss.
The other big change is speeding up quick R2s for most weapons, which is a fundamental change to the gameplay. I jumped back in to test, and I've enjoyed it. It definitely opens up options.
Notable weapon changes include Smithscript Dagger's range getting boosted and Hand to Hand weapons getting damage and recovery buffs.
Other weapons/skills/spell buffs and fixes, but some spell buffs like Feathers' reportedly don't make enough of a difference.
No buff for the damaging electric buff incant, no buff for bottles.
Trogdor1123
Member
Was going to jump back in and beat the last 2 hero tombs. I have. I’ve been using the moonlight great sword but heard it got totally nerfed. Is that true? Anything else I should know? Haven’t played in around 7 or 8 months and I’m on the vanilla version. Ps5 if that matters.
The_hunter
Member
I used the sword in my run of elden ring.
If I recall, they nerfed the stagger damage from the projectile of the Moonlight sword. Before you could stun enemies with just the projectile, but not anymore.
Jumping heavy attacks do lots of stagger damage with great swords now. The projectile of the moonlight sword is good at conserving mana while doing ranged attacks, or at doing frost build-up damage.
Soodanim
Member
Any nerfs are part of a greater balancing effort of all weapons. The OP specifics were toned down, while other general and specific things were buffed. A few examples:
- Tap R2s are now faster for most weapon types, which changes a lot of fights
- Critical attacks were buffed (may pre-date your last play)
- One of the DLC talismans in particular got an insane buff
- Entire weapon type buffs
- Buffs to shields, summons, ashes of war, and spells
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NeverYouMind
Member
I rolled my game version back to take back my beloved Bloodhound Step and undo all the pre-DLC nerf shenanigans. Only thing I even slightly miss is the NPC invasion spot at Writheblood Ruins.
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Soodanim
Member
If we're talking pre-nerf favourites, Hoarfrost Stomp was fantastic. It was my big gun I saved for special occasions. Got me through twin gargoyles when I didn't want to try again.
Soodanim
Member
They do in quite a few cases, which was a great choice. Preserve PvE fun while helping the PvP side of the fan base.
Jsisto
Member
Just finished subterranean shunning grounds. That was absolutely nuts. It’s insane to me that an area on par with the best dungeons of any 3d Zelda is just hidden in a random, completely missable sewage pit in Leyndell. There was so many fucking layers that I almost didn’t expect it to end. I wonder what percentage of players didn’t even encounter it. Elden Ring is so good that I almost can’t believe it even exists.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
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Antwix
Member
I just started a new playthrough last week. For whatever reason, I haven't done a pure str build yet so I decided to do that. If you have a specific build/weapon you're aiming for, it's not too bad to get thru the base game at all. I killed radahn/mohg in like 20-25 hours give or take. Once I decided on a few weapons that I wanted to use, I just looked up on overview of each major area for any talismans/armor/tears that I wanted and left everything else alone. I haven't entered the dlc yet (lvl 105) and I'm just casually wrapping up some odds and ends. I think the catacombs/caves/etc are a big time sink. I've only been in like 3 or 4 of them just to get bell bearings. Just going thru the game linearly is pretty quick. Im getting sidetracked a lot doing quests and saying to myself "well I'm already here, may as well knock this out too" lol. Having a lot of fun tho.
ÆMNE22A!C
NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Yeah that would exactly be my approach on a fresh start. But exploring is my fetish lol and yeah I'd have to look up where to go to get my build pieces.
On my XSS I have almost everything.
Just have to look up where to enter the DLC and fuck around to get the mechanics and all back in my fingers.
If I go the fresh route efficiently I'd indeed have to look shit up and go from A to BCD ETC. Eh...
Antwix
Member
I used Youwy's guide found here if you're at all interested :
He's really knowledgeable but goes a bit quick for everything lol. Obviously depending on what build you want, you'd have to add/subtract some stuff from what he does. But it served as a nice quick rundown of a bunch of the important stuff especially since he's got timestamps on the video. I'm sure there's tons of guides out there varying on depth/explanation. And yeah, I get distracted and go off an explore areas just cuz I'm like "yeah i think i remember something being over here" lol. But whatever, it's all for fun and that's all that matters.
First playthrough of the DLC? Honestly I wouldn't recommend a guide if that's the case. It's worth just exploring and finding out shit on your own. And if you get stuck, just google specifically how to get progress that specific area. The DLC map does get kind of confusing with its verticality.
Trogdor1123
Member
Is there a way to tell which caves and dungeons you have beaten? There are like a million of them and I think I’ve beaten them all but don’t want to visit each to confirm.
Antwix
Member
not from just a glance unfortunately. there's probably a mod for pc that does it since i believe the convergence mod has that feature. I think the best bet to check is to go into the catacomb/cave/etc via grace and walk further into the cave. Not sure how far you'd need to go but if you can still fast travel out, then you've beat it already since fast travel unlocks when you beat the boss there. Or I guess check the wiki at fextralife/etc and compare the main reward(s) you get from that area to what you have. Kinda tedious tho lol.
ÆMNE22A!C
NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Trogdor1123
Member
That’s about what I thought too. I think I’ve beaten everything but I want to make sure before jumping into the dlc or starting another run.
I think Rellana is DLC boss and Rennala main game boss. What did you guys think of dlc vs main game? I gave up on messmer, but i think i will try to level up with fragments a bit later.
Trogdor1123
Member
How is Erdtree? I have a hankering for more elden ring but I I bought the original on ps5 and then moved to pc but I really want to play expansion. Im just wondering if I should grab it on ps5, keep my character, or start all over again on pc and essentially double the price... i need some wisdom here!
Antwix
Member
I love it but some don't. It has the same flaws as the base game in terms of loot and repeating enemies but its highs like the legacy dungeons are awesome imo. You get cool new weapons, items, craftables, tears, and talismans to further experiment/augment builds as well as some peak bosses and a beautiful map that's quite vertical yet confusing at times. I could go on but I don't want to spoil anything. At the end of the day, it's more Elden Ring with a different map to explore that's a bit more condensed.
Soodanim
Member
I largely agree with Antwix. I'm not a huge fan of the bosses personally, but I haven't been through the DLC too many times and haven't gotten used to them, but I know many have.
The new equipment is very good fun. Entire weapon types will add some variety you didn't know there was room for - some are my favourites of all. Excellent talismans etc too.
I don't know if it's because I went in at NG+4, but I wasn't a fan of the difficult scaling. I found that too many things hit too hard. It's a consequence of trying to design a DLC for people that could be anywhere between level 100 and 500. There is a new DLC-only scaling system to help, so don't be too put off by that.
For what it's worth, I put 1200 hours into the base game and 60 into the DLC. But that 60 was one initial play through. Plenty to explore and find and do. I plan to return to it and give it another full run when I build a new PC.
Overall I had a great time with some of it, less of a great time with some, and while it didn't make me want to keep playing it over and over like the base game it was worth my time and money. It expands the Elden Ring experience, so if you like one you'll like the other.
I would say to wait for a sale at this point, but you'll get your money's worth either way.