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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT6| doicare about injuries?

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Awesome Animals

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Everything is going from bad to worse, yay!

EDIT: I don't think the state of the club is as dire as the article initially led me to believe. I don't believe the sales of Downing and Young are included in the reported loss. When the numbers for June 2011 to May 2012 are released we should see an improvement. We cut a lot of our dead weight from the team over the summer, and have the sales of Downing and Young in there.

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pulga said:
Wait.

You're from the US and follow Villa?

wutwutwut
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Don't know how I missed this, but yep. I didn't want to start following a bandwagon team. Loving Manchester United doesn't mean much when you say you've been following them since Ronaldo was on the team.
 
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elsk

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According to "Bild", Podolski has agreed personal terms with Arsenal for a transfer in summer. No agreement between clubs yet.
 
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Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
Brazil are playing in 15 minutes. Sandro and Damiao are starting so I shall be watching very closely.
 
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Rocket Scientist

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Bosnia going to lose badly, I don't know why I'm going to watch =(

Edit: Bosnia being 19th on the Fifa ranking is one more reason why it shouldn't be take seriously. They do okay, but not showing up on any world or European cup gives you 19th place? Come on, let's be real here.
 
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rodvik

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Awesome Animals said:
Everything is going from bad to worse, yay!

EDIT: I don't think the state of the club is as dire as the article initially led me to believe. I don't believe the sales of Downing and Young are included in the reported loss. When the numbers for June 2011 to May 2012 are released we should see an improvement. We cut a lot of our dead weight from the team over the summer, and have the sales of Downing and Young in there.
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Yeah this year will see a dramatic improvement financially.

Actually this report make me feel a bit better. Thats a really healthy topline dragged down by some deadweight. Come summer a lot of the remaining older players will be gone.

Assuming we stay up (and there is a real risk of going down) I am actually looking forward to next season.
 
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zomgbbqftw

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Awesome Animals said:
Yea, he signed many players for large fucking salaries and then never played them. As much as I dislike the man, I hope he doesn't do that to Sunderland.
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Without Niall Quinn I'm not sure who will stop him at Sunderland. He gets average teams into the Europa League places for a couple of seasons then leaves behind an almighty mess when it turns out he can't take the team any further (Champions League, cup wins). I don't rate him at all and was very relieved when the board went for Harry and put him on a tight leash with a strict wage structure and spending limits. I'm not sure O'Neil could succeed at a club like Spurs or Arsenal where the club must make a profit to ensure continued success and investment on the pitch.
 
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Hixx

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zomgbbqftw said:
Welcome to how Martin O'Neil runs a football club. Pay dross players loads of money to perform well for a couple of seasons...
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You really think managers are the people who dish out contracts? Don't blame O'Neill for the failures of CEOs, lawyers and Chairmen. The days of anyone but the most revered managers dictating wages is long gone.

Go ask Wycombe, Leicester, Celtic fans how they feel about O'Neill. Not a single one will have a bad word to say about him.

Villa's situation speaks for itself. Competing for champions league spots constantly, and then he can't re-invest the Milner money, reportedly in Scott Parker. So he leaves. And Villa continue to spend well above their means... but O'Neill isn't there anymore... Lerner is. Hmm.

zomgbbqftw said:
1) Without Niall Quinn I'm not sure who will stop him at Sunderland. 2) He gets average teams into the Europa League places for a couple of seasons then leaves behind an 3) almighty mess when it turns out he can't take the team any further (Champions League, cup wins). I don't rate him at all and was very relieved 5) when the board went for Harry and put him on a tight leash with a strict wage structure and spending limits. I'm not sure O'Neil could succeed at a club like Spurs or Arsenal 6) where the club must make a profit to ensure continued success and investment on the pitch.
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So let's go through this.

1) Niall Quinn was chairman when we were spunking money up the wall at a rate faster than ANY Premier League club at the time. Our current chairman reigned him him and I'd be truly surprised if we didn't run a profit for this season.
2) The only club he's done this with is at Villa. He has been hugely successful at the other clubs he managed, bar Norwich.
3) Yes, it's solely his responsibility that Villa are struggling financially. It's not like they went and spent £30m 6 months after he left is... oh wait, that's exactly what they did.
5) Wow. Flabbergasted. The Harry Redknapp that left clubs like Portsmouth & Bournemouth on the brink of liquidation? Hey, if you can blame O'Neill for Villa's situation, I can play this game.
6) you're about to find out.
 
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Yenrot said:
AVB told he will be sacked if Chelsea go out of the CL according to Duncan Castles of the Times.
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I know thats how things work nowadays, but not even giving him a full season and try to get rid of some of the players that are against him on the team is kinda dumb. But well.. money spent I guess
 
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LabouredSubterfuge

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I was never confident in AVB as a signing for Chelsea. Just couldn't see how he would cope.

Regardless, it's beyond retarded to sign a young manager and then jettison him in less than one season with an ageing squad full of 'old boys' drunk on player power. Torres and Luiz weren't his signings either. He's not been good but it's possible he could get better once he has his own team in place.

Not that I have much sympathy for Chelsea. Buy the ticket, take the ride. Wouldn't have any sympathy for City if the same happened there either.
 
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Wes

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HixxSAFC said:
Villa's situation speaks for itself. Competing for champions league spots constantly, and then he can't re-invest the Milner money, reportedly in Scott Parker. So he leaves. And Villa continue to spend well above their means... but O'Neill isn't there anymore... Lerner is. Hmm.
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We're only continuing to spend above our means because of the wages left over from the O'Neill era.

That and the huge drop in attendance thanks to McLeish.
 
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Yen

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Wes said:
We're only continuing to spend above our means because of the wages left over from the O'Neill era.

That and the huge drop in attendance thanks to McLeish.
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And if he means transfers, Bent was vital in keeping Villa up.
 
pulga

pulga

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Awesome Animals said:
Everything is going from bad to worse, yay!


Don't know how I missed this, but yep. I didn't want to start following a bandwagon team. Loving Manchester United doesn't mean much when you say you've been following them since Ronaldo was on the team.
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Lol, didn't mean it that way. Most of the times people pick the "little" teams because of family or where they grew up. Just found it curious an american would pick Villa over anything else.

Myself? Since I'm not European, my family bombarded me with Juventus and Madrid. United came along out of my own will during the Beckham phase. Anyone else got any "made" stories?
 
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Patrick Bateman

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elsk said:
According to "Bild", Podolski has agreed personal terms with Arsenal for a transfer in summer. No agreement between clubs yet.
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Just read it. Can't believe it.

Edit: Well, at least he's worth 20.000.000 €. That's a nice plus for Köln.
 
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GQman2121

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Yenrot said:
AVB told he will be sacked if Chelsea go out of the CL according to Duncan Castles of the Times.
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That's just a story for the papers. I fully expect him to have the summer to make the squad his own.

However, all bets are off if we finish outside of the top four. And honestly, I wouldn't blame the board at that point if they decide that he's not the man for the job.
 
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