Not the Momentus XT 750 GB which is SSHD at 7200 rpm.
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Not the Momentus XT 750 GB which is SSHD at 7200 rpm.
terencecah
Member
i want to see some SSD benches
I feel like SSHD is a waste, but I tend to keep only what i'm currently playing.
I feel like SSHD is a waste, but I tend to keep only what i'm currently playing.
Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
That's the one still in the caddy though isn't it? I'm on about would it fit without the caddy?
http://gearnuke.com/first-ps4-pro-ssd-footage-shows-extremely-impressive-load-times-bloodborne/
Gearnuke?
I got the EVO 850. Downloads, installs, load times, are all buttery.
Gearnuke?
I got the EVO 850. Downloads, installs, load times, are all buttery.
Any SSD will be better than the Firecuda.
You don't need to get the Evo for that, you wouldn't see any difference with a cheaper one anyway.
n0razi
Member
The Firecuda will see its best performance when you play the same game repeatedly since its cache is only 8gb... if you swap games often then it won't perform much better than any other 5400rpm drive. If you play say Destiny or Overwatch 90% of the time then the Firecuda's cache will keep the most used game files on cache and you will see a benefit.
So, i tested boot up speed on PS4 Pro from first beep to profile logged in.
It took him around 26-27 sec with Momentus XT 750 GB.
This video is similar ( probably with stock HDD's ) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY6XLme0mcA
It took him around 26-27 sec with Momentus XT 750 GB.
This video is similar ( probably with stock HDD's ) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY6XLme0mcA
RedRooster
Member
I did a bunch of time measurements between my launch PS4 with a Seagate 1TB SSHD and my PS4 Pro with the Firecuda 2TB SSHD. These GTA times though really show the benefit of a SSHD, mainly if you play the same game all the time since it must stay partially in cache or maybe partially loaded in system memory?
3 timings, timed from hitting X on the home screen to launch the game until it loaded my character standing in single player:
PS4 w/ Seagate - 1:30 - 1:21 - 1:10
PS4 Pro w/Firecuda - 1:34 - 1:19 - 1:08
Its pretty noticeable how each loading is quicker than the last.
3 timings, timed from hitting X on the home screen to launch the game until it loaded my character standing in single player:
PS4 w/ Seagate - 1:30 - 1:21 - 1:10
PS4 Pro w/Firecuda - 1:34 - 1:19 - 1:08
Its pretty noticeable how each loading is quicker than the last.
I installed a firecuda 2tb yesterday and transfered 380gb from my og ps4. All seemed fine and dandy until i had a system software crash, the os became sluggish.
The system begun rebuilding database and when it rebooted it was still the same so i went to safe mode and rebuilt database again, everything seems fine now but im worried i might have a bad hdd.
I have since played pes, titanfall 2 and witcher for a little over 2 hours... Anyone experiencing any problems like these?
The system begun rebuilding database and when it rebooted it was still the same so i went to safe mode and rebuilt database again, everything seems fine now but im worried i might have a bad hdd.
I have since played pes, titanfall 2 and witcher for a little over 2 hours... Anyone experiencing any problems like these?
Sorry for the late reply, Australia has a funny way of sleeping when everyone is up.
Ok, so my testing was launching the same save game in both cases, so this was from the main menu to actual gameplay. In the case of TLOU and COD:IW I re ran them twice for a 3 total runs... This was the quickest. It's a very strange result that may be down to the way these game read off the HDD. I did notice the menus of the actual PlayStation load faster. It's an older 2 platter SSSHD but really it shouldn't be worse, I reckon it's down to the way the game is designed. I have a SSD I can out in the PS4 but it takes too fucking long to do it, and I can't be buggered.
Ok, so my testing was launching the same save game in both cases, so this was from the main menu to actual gameplay. In the case of TLOU and COD:IW I re ran them twice for a 3 total runs... This was the quickest. It's a very strange result that may be down to the way these game read off the HDD. I did notice the menus of the actual PlayStation load faster. It's an older 2 platter SSSHD but really it shouldn't be worse, I reckon it's down to the way the game is designed. I have a SSD I can out in the PS4 but it takes too fucking long to do it, and I can't be buggered.
I can't be assed to do property tests either, but I can confirm the loading in the terribly optimized Star Trek Online game has easily been cut in half with the EVO SSD.
I've been signing in with multiple characters to grab daily items for trophies, and there's a very noticible change in loading for the better.
I've been signing in with multiple characters to grab daily items for trophies, and there's a very noticible change in loading for the better.
The Hamburglar
Banned
Anyone tested bf1 load times yet? As on the og PS4 with a hdd they are currently comical.
Right. My spouse is all Battlefield 1, all the time so their #1 concern was being one of the first to load into the map to get the tank spawn.
For them and people who are similar the FireCuda is 100% worth it.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I noticed navigation of the menu in the Funimation app is vastly improved.
I also have my 2tb Firecuda drive almost completely filled up. I haven't downloaded everything and I still have to have room for several games I preordered on PSN.
I also have my 2tb Firecuda drive almost completely filled up. I haven't downloaded everything and I still have to have room for several games I preordered on PSN.
Marty Chinn
Member
My 2tb Firecuda arrived today, and outside of those damn caddy screws being stuck or tight and hard to unscrew, the upgrade went smooth.
I remember people were saying going over LAN for the transfer was slow compared to a direct connection but I seem to be hitting gigabit speed over my LAN. I can't expect it to go any faster so it's doing roughly 6GB a minute or 360GB an hour which is better than I was expecting. Two hours in and my 1.25TB transfer was almost half done already.
I remember people were saying going over LAN for the transfer was slow compared to a direct connection but I seem to be hitting gigabit speed over my LAN. I can't expect it to go any faster so it's doing roughly 6GB a minute or 360GB an hour which is better than I was expecting. Two hours in and my 1.25TB transfer was almost half done already.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
The only 4tb that will fit inside a PS4 Pro naturally is the 4TB Evo SSD and that will cost you around $1500.
Of course. Its a real SSD, but make sure you update the firmware on pc first.
Cool thanks man.
Keyser Soze
Member
SSD will kill all other tech in terms of speed. Some games are not going to take full advantage of it, but many load times should be noticeably shorter.
That is a great price too. You are getting 1TB for about the usual price of 512GB.
Is that an online deal?
Yeah I'm using a friends discount
I wonder how easy it would be to update the firmware. If I update the firmware for the 840 when the Pro formats the SSD, will it not reset the firmware too?
Jezbollah
Member
Yeah I'm using a friends discount
It's firmware. This is not held within the main storage.
KampferZeon
Neo Member
Found some benchmark numbers HDD vs SSHD vs SSD
http://www.ps4pro.jp/entry/2016/11/11/100000
PS4 Pro Uses these test subjects
Note: He tested the Orig PS4 too but with different disks
http://www.ps4pro.jp/entry/2016/11/11/100000
PS4 Pro Uses these test subjects
Code:
SSHD(black) Seagate FireCuda 2.5 2TB 8GB ST2000LX001
SSHD(red) TOSHIBA 1TB SSHD 8GB MQ02ABD100H
SSD Crucial MX200 2TB CT2050MX300SSD1Note: He tested the Orig PS4 too but with different disks
deathkiller
Member
It seems that games without pro-mode do not benefit from the SSD more than the OG PS4.
KampferZeon
Neo Member
games without pro mode do benefit from faster disk access, maybe not by as much as those with pro support.
PS4Pro had the same HDD but has extra RAM so the caching strategy could be different.
I don't really understand Japanese.
and I am puzzled why the Seagate which is 7200rpm in black is slower than the Toshiba which is only 5400 rpm. Both comes with 8GB Nand
Dalibor_San
Member
What is currently the best bang for buck HDD, 2TB+ capacity to use in the PS4 PRO?
I'm willing to import from Amazon if they ship to Australia, or if you know the HDD I can try to find it on Mwave,PCCASEGEAR etc local Australian PC stores.
I'm willing to import from Amazon if they ship to Australia, or if you know the HDD I can try to find it on Mwave,PCCASEGEAR etc local Australian PC stores.
audio_delay
Neo Member
No, both SSHD are 5400rpm. Only 3.5" models spin up to 7200rpm
thanks for sharing, that's a very detailed comparison.
This part is interesting, it's a direct comparison of the PS4 and PS4Pro running games from a SSD. It serves as a comparison of SATA2 vs. SATA3 in the two PS4 models:
The guy did his testing with loading times. The bolded numbers show the the difference (e.g. 24.03% reduction in loading times in Skyrim). Looks like games with a Pro mode take some advantage of SATA3 while the difference is noticeably smaller in games without a Pro mode.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Is a 1TB Crucial MX300 for $207 a good deal or am I likely to find better during Black Friday week? Also has any one done a test comparing performance of the Firecuda SSHD to a SSD on the PS4 Pro? I'm having a hard time deciding whether the faster speeds are worth sacrificing half the storage, but I'm really thinking about refusing delivery for Firecuda I ordered. Finally is there any evidence that SSDs improve texture streaming on consoles? This is probably the most important factor to me with all the open world games I'm looking forward to playing in the near future. Thanks to anyone that answers.
KampferZeon
Neo Member
Thanks. it seems for these games the Toshiba SSHD is much better than the Seagate.
The Toshiba is comparable to the Crucial SSD
KampferZeon
Neo Member
SATA3 is always going to be much better than SATA2 for SSD. probably did the tests for OG PS4 3 years ago
I think the Japanese user in my post above used a Crucial MX200 1TB in both the PS4 and PS4PRO and got a 4.44%-29.33% difference in loading times in the games he tested.
edit: He's using the same PS4 OS and game versions on both PS4 and Pro as well.
No but I can say that on MwR I'm always the first loading the map on stock HDD by 5/6 seconds sometimes xD Too bad it does nothing because you still have to wait for other players wich makes sense.
Darktalon
Member
There is a great deal right now on Crucial MX300 1TB. It's $220, no shipping or tax, sold by Newegg through ebay. check it out!
StrongBlackVine
Banned
So I guess this is a good one. I asked if $207 was a good price earlier today.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Jet.com. No shipping or tax(for me any way).
George Claw M.D.
Member
Thanks. Looks like you have to use the 15% coupon for new members to get it at that price. Definitely a good deal for a 1TB SSD. To think I was contemplating a 960GB SSD for $500 when PS4 launched. I'm also thinking about the 750GB version which is even cheaper per GB. Gonna have to delete a lot of games though, and redownload when I want to play them.
Thats some good improvements. I would appreciate some Firecuda PS4 Pro tests in comparison to SSD, diminishing returns and all that.
Impulsor
Member
Worth every penny.
Listen to this man right here......I have an 840 in my PS4. The firmware update basically extends the life permanently of your 840. It doesn't allow the drive to degrade in performance over time and constantly refreshes the data to do this.
Well hopefully I just snagged a 1TB Evo 840 at a cost to me of £125! Bargain!
Where from?