Sniffynose
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gd I didn't know the o/s was eating 100gb... I wish we could just disable the stupid video recording crap altogether and save the ram and hard drive space
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Get your SSDs ready, PS4 Pro supports SATA3
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gd I didn't know the o/s was eating 100gb... I wish we could just disable the stupid video recording crap altogether and save the ram and hard drive spaceToVenusAndBack_
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Ordered the 2TB Firecuda SSHD from Amazon UK. Arrived today...a Western Blue Digital 1TB standard drive. Yay?
Nobody knows.
Definitely over 9000.
Memorabilia
Member
Assuming this actually improves load times - not a lock by any means - then this is great news. *If* this is the case, it'd probably be the one aspect of the Pro so far that might make me actually pick one up. We'll have to wait for post release reviews.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
My 1TB Seagate SSHD will likely be faster than the stock 1TB coming in the Pro right?
Crazymoogle
Member
Yep. SSHD has been proven to show some benefit on stock PS4. Just generally halfway compared to a full SSD.
https://support.us.playstation.com/articles/en_US/KC_Article/Upgrade-PS4-HDD/
Should be similar enough to the Pro since I am guessing the HD will be in the same location on top
It's almost the same as with base/slim PS4. Very easy.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Speaking of HDD, I can't download 6 GB Rapture when the storage app says I still have 30 GB free on my Ps4? What's up with that? I don't understand!
Will it happen again in Pro?
Will it happen again in Pro?
Pretty sure it has to do with the system requiring like double the amount of space the game in to unpack and install everything. Maybe there is an update that needs to be downloaded at the same time so that is hitting over your 30GBs? PS3 was like this as well.
Lemmy Caution
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Phew, skimmed this thread and accidentally ordered the 3.5" version off Amazon Canada.
Glad I caught this post as I was able to cancel my order before it was processed. Also spared me a very disappointing day as I would've realized I got the wrong drive when trying to install it in my new PS4 Pro.
Now I just need to find the proper drive in Canada
Crazymoogle
Member
Phew, skimmed this thread and accidentally ordered the 3.5" version off Amazon Canada.
Glad I caught this post as I was able to cancel my order before it was processed. Also spared me a very disappointing day as I would've realized I got the wrong drive when trying to install it in my new PS4 Pro.
Now I just need to find the proper drive in Canada
Amazon.ca (restock Nov 11)
Newegg.ca had it in stock last I looked but that was a few days ago.
Thanks for the update, my wife was waiting to order for my Christmas gift.
Crazymoogle
Member
2.5" drive with max 9.5mm height confirmed in the PS4P thread, so if you want 3TB+, you need to SSD for now...
Just to confirm it 100%, it is without a doubt a SATA III interface - PS4 Pro: The ultimate FAQ (update) - PlayStation Blog
Crazymoogle
Member
SSD (EVO, etc) is always going to be fastest, but most expensive.
SSHD (Firecuda, etc) is about half as fast, but still an improvement over a regular drive. And wayyy cheaper than SSDs
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Even on PS4 which was SATA II routed through USB, SSD was an obvious improvement. Yes, it's safer to wait or just go SSHD for the value. But if you got money to burn and want a storage upgrade, SSD will likely do at least as well as what it did last gen.
More like "some" that have the money to burn.
Black Republican
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is there a real difference between these 2?
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00BSH3CCC/
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01LWRTRZU/
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00BSH3CCC/
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01LWRTRZU/
Crazymoogle
Member
The first one is older, unclear if its 2.5", more expensive, and isn't sold by Amazon.ca.
The second one is the 1TB Firecuda. So go for that
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Crazymoogle
Member
There is no magical way in which the PS4Pro can put SSDs and HDDs on exactly the same level. SATA3 can give a better transfer rate, but its not going to be the panacea that solves access time. So looking at PS4 benchmarks using SSDs and SSHDs is a pretty reasonable facsimile of what to expect.
My fault actually...for some reason I had in my head that the 850 was an SSHD...
So is the firecuda the best SSHD drive currently?
Inglorious_ Man
Member
I wish the Firecuda 2tb was in stock in the U.S.
Crazymoogle
Member
In theory? It's the only 2TB option on the market. at 1TB there probably isn't much difference between the SSHD options.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
They're impatient. Not like we're going to run out of ssds. I'll wait for another df video.
Quick Mustard
Member
So, any particular reason the Seagate website doesnt list the 2TB Firecuda as SSHD and only a normal 2.5HDD, or am I not looking in the correct place?
http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/firecuda/#features
http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/firecuda/#features
Crazymoogle
Member
Click on "2.5 SPECS"
Firecuda is the name of the SSHD line, there is no "regular HD" designator, and if you click on the info sheet you will see all of the SSHD promo your heart can handle.
Quick Mustard
Member
Yea, I saw all of that, it just strikes me as odd that in the column for FireCuda - 2.5SSHD it only lists 1TB and 500Gb, not the 2TB. And no where on the SPECS section does it have 2TB SHDD.
I mean, I know the 2.5SHDD we've all bought is correct, just strikes me as odd they've not put everything on the website.
Crazymoogle
Member
I guess I don't see what you're talking about? On your specific link, it shows for the 2.5" column "2TB,1TB, 500GB" in both charts. There is a "Capacity - Related Products" section that omits 2TB, but I really have no idea what that is for, because it mentions actual capacity right above.
Anyway I have the 2TB FireCuda right now at home. It's SSHD, it's real, so no worries.
Quick Mustard
Member
I guess I don't see what you're talking about? On your specific link, it shows for the 2.5" column "2TB,1TB, 500GB" in both charts. There is a "Capacity - Related Products" section that omits 2TB, but I really have no idea what that is for, because it mentions actual capacity right above.
Anyway I have the 2TB FireCuda right now at home. It's SSHD, it's real, so no worries.
Yea, its the capacity bit that threw me.
As you say, its 2TB on the top part and then not there on the bottom part.
And the only other thing I noticed was on the bottom part with the big old SPECS button, the 2TB reads as this: "FireCuda 2 TB ST2000LX001" where as all the SSHD ones have SSHD next to them.
I'm guessing its just a cock up on the website, as you say you have it there with you and can confirm it, but im picky with the website details.
Crazymoogle
Member
Also, I'm not actually recommending anyone do this, but...since we now know the HDD inserts from the rear using a caddy, two ideas come to mind:
1. It's possible if you could find a replacement adapter for the caddy (or are skilled enough to disassemble the caddy) that you would definitely gain some drive clearance. Hard to say if it could hit 14/15mm without measuring tape though.
2. Since only a small piece of the rear case is removed, I have to think Nyko or somebody is going to come up with a replacement caddy that is empty and just houses an eSATA port. Would be a really simple way to connect whatever drive you want externally without messing up the look or frame of the system. Probably not hard to bake your own solution either, just need to pick the right eSATA/power cable lengths.
1. It's possible if you could find a replacement adapter for the caddy (or are skilled enough to disassemble the caddy) that you would definitely gain some drive clearance. Hard to say if it could hit 14/15mm without measuring tape though.
2. Since only a small piece of the rear case is removed, I have to think Nyko or somebody is going to come up with a replacement caddy that is empty and just houses an eSATA port. Would be a really simple way to connect whatever drive you want externally without messing up the look or frame of the system. Probably not hard to bake your own solution either, just need to pick the right eSATA/power cable lengths.
That's the hope. They make those for the current PS4 though it's not as pretty as this could be. And they even had them for PS3.
My recollection is that if you power a 3.5inch drive, it needs to be powered independently, and since it is separate there was an issue with sleep mode (drive stays on).
ArkhamFantasy
Member
What are the chances we get comparisons between normal drives and SSD's before pro launch?
Crazymoogle
Member
Ah, you're right, with 3.5" there would be the added power requirement. But a 2.5" full height might still be okay.
Entirely dependent on the press having SSDs on hand to test with. Digital Foundry maybe?
Entirely dependent on the press having SSDs on hand to test with. Digital Foundry maybe?
Good point actually, I can't see any reason why you could just have a lead hanging out the back of your PS4P directly into any HDD of your choice.
Digital Foundry are working on it.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Pretty good since a huge fuss was made over the jump to SATA3