Ok so just like orig ps4, there were improvements, but not drastic ones.
I went with SSHD then, planned on doing same for the pro.
Good enough for day one. =)
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Ok so just like orig ps4, there were improvements, but not drastic ones.
I went with SSHD then, planned on doing same for the pro.
Good enough for day one. =)
Same, I'll use the 1tb sshd i got for the orig ps4, until the firecuda becomes available.
Poot Poot Splash
Member
Got my firecuda prepped and ready.
PS4 is shipped and should be here by tomorrow.
PS4 is shipped and should be here by tomorrow.
fargofallout
Member
Damn, I wasn't expecting such minimal improvements. Seems like a missed opportunity.
boujeejamboree
Member
Money never bought an ounce of time.
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Those are acceptable speed improvements from my perspective, so I'm going with an SSD. It likely helps with texture streaming as well!
Yeah ill be moving my SSD from PS4 to Pro, and I agree it's not all about the load times. Heat and noise are better with SSD, as well as texture streaming like you said
anyone here already had an SSD in their PS4 and those games care to comment?
Which bloodborne level was it? we have some times for that
Bloodborne Loading Times Stock PS4 500GB HDD HGST 7200rpm 1TB HDD Seagate 1TB SSHD Hybrid Sandisk Extreme Pro 480GB SSD
First Floor Sickroom 36.7 31.5 32.6 26.6
Central Yharnam 41.1 35.3 33.5 29.8
Respawn at Central Yharnam 44.4 37.5 33.9 31.9
Great Bridge 35.1 30.9 28.0 26.8
Tomb of Oedon 30.0 27.8 24.8 22.7
Cathedral Ward 48.3 39.2 36.6 33.2
Old Yharnam 45.8 38.3 36.5 31.0
Respawn at Old Yharnam 53.5 44.7 39.0 36.8
Return to Hunter's Dream from Old Yharnam 12.1 11.1 10.4 9.6
Trogdor1123
Member
I'd like to see fallout numbers with an SSD. That could be interesting.
This isn't really an adequate comparison due to them being two completely unrelated tests but this is data from DF in January concerning the original PS4 so that we can see the PS4 to PS4 Pro loading times.
DF (Standard PS4 Only) said:
Is it time for a PS4 SSD upgrade? (Digital Foundry 23rd January 2016)
EDIT:
I want to emphasise again, this is not a like for like test so please try not to read too much into the improvements you see on the PS4 Pro. Just use it as a rough guide until we get a proper comparison.
PadPoet
505 Games Ltd
Did that guy in the SSD speed comparison video stated they are using a Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB SSD? (even though they show a Sandisk SSD)
That SSD is kind of old in terms of controller used and if compared to a Samsung 850 Evo it seems a bit slower.
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Evo-1TB-vs-HyperX-Fury-240GB/3576vsm13145
I know the above is PC testing only but take into account cheap SSDs that advertise great read and write speeds (500mb/500mbs) usually don't fair well in the small filesize department.
I have a 850 Evo to go in my PS4 Pro when I get one.
That SSD is kind of old in terms of controller used and if compared to a Samsung 850 Evo it seems a bit slower.
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Evo-1TB-vs-HyperX-Fury-240GB/3576vsm13145
I know the above is PC testing only but take into account cheap SSDs that advertise great read and write speeds (500mb/500mbs) usually don't fair well in the small filesize department.
I have a 850 Evo to go in my PS4 Pro when I get one.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Well that is definitely not worth it.
Those are great loading times tbh, 10 seconds is nothing.
No tests so far. It's popular because it's 2TB and it's SSHD which has shown improvements over regular drive in the PS4. So if you are going for larger size, might as well go for SSHD as the price difference is minimal.
The Last Wizard
Member
Any chance the firecuda goes on sale soon?
It just came out and it's super popular. You'd be lucky to find it in stock let alone on sale. A base price point around $100 is likely to stay for months bar some crazy coupon combo on clickdeals.
I think also Bloodborne got some post launch optimisation on loading times which may skew results. I'm going to test my PS4 with SSHD tonight, then stock Pro when it's up and running...once the results are out I'll go for 1TB SSD or 2TB SSHD.
Yeah, we need some long loaders like GTA V - something that might really test a loading time.
Seeing as how bottlenecked the PS4 is, it wouldn't be anything substantial.
You appear to just be repeating what I've already said?
Dang. What was the reason for SATA 3 implementation, then? I don't know anything about the hardware, so I apologize for the lack of knowledge.
Got the Crucial MX300 750GB SSD today from neweeg! Cant wait to drop it into the Pro tomorrow
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156124
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156124
Chris_Rivera
Member
Is it a USB based Sata3 interface? Like the OG PS4 did?
I think the 1200 series removed that, wonder if its back. Think a chip breakdown found that.
I think the 1200 series removed that, wonder if its back. Think a chip breakdown found that.
The SATA2 interface wasn't bottlenecking the PS4
It couldn't even max out SATA2 specs (far from it) so it's not weird not to see any improvement
The limitation that was in place on the standard PS4 seems to still be here on the Pro
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
See gooner's post above from a really old test:
Bloodborne Loading Times:
Stock / 7200rpm / SSHD / SSD
First Floor Sickroom 36.7 31.5 32.6 26.6
Central Yharnam 41.1 35.3 33.5 29.8
Respawn at Central Yharnam 44.4 37.5 33.9 31.9
Great Bridge 35.1 30.9 28.0 26.8
Tomb of Oedon 30.0 27.8 24.8 22.7
Cathedral Ward 48.3 39.2 36.6 33.2
Old Yharnam 45.8 38.3 36.5 31.0
Respawn at Old Yharnam 53.5 44.7 39.0 36.8
Return to Hunter's Dream from Old Yharnam 12.1 11.1 10.4 9.6
In short SSHD is better than 7200 by a bit, but relatively even compared to stock and SSD gaps so: Stock<<<<<7200<<SSHD<<<<<<<SSD
n0razi
Member
its been out of stock everywhere for the past 2 weeks that all of us have been waiting for it to come back in stock
Yep, saving my money.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
There is not enough data to judge. You will want games like GTA, Fallout 4, Skyrim, Witcher 3 to test. It's also not just load times but also stuttering as you stream in game assets.
Backfoggen
Banned
Proper not bottlenecked SSD support would mean huge improvements across the board. Not just for certain games. That is what people were hoping for. Sticking an SSD into this is not worth it more than it was sticking it in a standard PS4.
katsubento
Member
I already have a 1TB SSD waiting to go in, just like my OG PS4. Too bad the gains aren't greater, but I'll take any lowering of loading etc I can.
Quick Mustard
Member
So strange to add it to the FAQ and make a small deal out of it, if in the end there isnt really any change at all.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Firecuda it is if I can ever find one in srock again.
Cheapest would be a 2TB HDD that you remove from the external casing yourself. Should cost about $70.
Cheapest would be a 2TB HDD that you remove from the external casing yourself. Should cost about $70.
styl3s
Member
Like one of those seagate backup plus ones? I will snag one at BB tomorrow when i pick up my PS4 pro.
Yep. You want the Seagate 2TB Backup Plus Slim external drive. It's a little tricky to get the hard drive out without bending the (flimsy metal) case, but you'll save like $20 versus buying the bare drive it contains (a 2tb Seagate Samsung Spinpoint M9T) online and they definitely stock them at BB, Target, etc.
I currently have that sea gate drive.
Would the stock pro drive run significantly faster than the seagate?
Crazymoogle
Member
SeanR1221 said:
No, stock is just 1TB 5400rpm.
