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Heath Ledger is dead.
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PhoenixDark
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After watching TDK I'm convinced Ledger is actually alive. I really don't buy any of this stuff
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Why was this bumped? It just makes me sad thinking about it again.Particle Physicist
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gutshot said:
or she somehow delayed calling 911 or some shit like that because she was worried she might get in trouble.
Umm..."immunity?"
If she's the only person who hasn't talked with authorities yet, what in the world does she have to leverage "immunity" with? I'm pretty sure she is going to have to talk at some point here.
My guess...she got pills from someone naughty and gave them to Ledger.
If she's the only person who hasn't talked with authorities yet, what in the world does she have to leverage "immunity" with? I'm pretty sure she is going to have to talk at some point here.
My guess...she got pills from someone naughty and gave them to Ledger.
twilitesparklemotion
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:lol :lol :lolJCtheMC said:
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And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
she probably doesn't wanna get indicted for meanderings in drug-dealing.
but she's a celebrity. that's better than having the best lawyer out there. why's she worried?
but she's a celebrity. that's better than having the best lawyer out there. why's she worried?
BlueTsunami
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TheWolf said:
She should still be held accountable. Giving out drugs like Vicotin and Oxycotin like its candy is just fucked up. Heath was retarded for taking down those and his already prescribed medication but still.
I'm not talking Manslaughter but fuck this "Celebrity status" immunity shit.
BlueTsunami
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TheWolf said:
As Blackace stated, thats how its always been. 1) She facilitated in his death and 2) The items that she gave out were illegal to give out without a prescription.
RubxQub said:
Not necessarily. They may have done drugs together at some point in the past, and she wants immunity to discuss it?
Maybe?
Yeah ... it was probably her vicoten or oxycotin :\
TheWolf said:
Exactly.
She may end up facing legal issues, but that would be pretty pathetic if the public actually blames her.
BlueTsunami
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mac said:
She has no right giving out prescribed drugs. Like I stated I'm not talking about hitting her with Manslaughter, a lesser charge surely but something. But make it known that shit like this shouldn't happen.
I mean, its not like she just gave him weed. Also, the fact that she wants immunity is just cowardice. If this shit really wasn't a big deal then she would just out and state what actually happened but she obviously knows she fucked up (if we're to assume she did supply him with said drugs).
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BlueTsunami said:
She's probably just scared. This conjecture that she's hiding because she know some horrible secret is tabloid material. So she doesn't want to talk about a clear case of accidental overdose. It's not like her testimony would lead to a huge drug bust.
There really isn't much that you can charge someone with for giving drugs to a friend. It's not like she's a dealer and it's not like they can prove she ever had more then a single pill in her possession. What sort of charges are you expecting?
BigGreenMat
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Honestly, regardless of the situation I would do what she is doing. Her lawyer is looking out for her and advising her on the best path to take. In general when talking to the police the best path is to NOT TALK TO THEM!! If you have a lawyer who tells you anything else they are a bad lawyer.
BlueTsunami
My god. Assuming this is what happened (which it very well may not be), its not like he was Heroin Bob in SLC Punk. He's been doing drugs for years.
My guess, either he was simply partying at her place and what he took mixed with the other stuff he was taking, or maybe the 'worst' happened, and he bummed something from her and that was what led to the fatal combination. Assuming the latter, I'd bet his request wasn't unusual for their normal partying at all, but unfortunately for all involved ... it mixed with something in his system and killed him.
I actually feel sorry for her, especially if its the latter. Just imagine your having a party at your place, and one of your buds bums a lortab. Its an amount you've seen him take hundreds of times, and he doesn't appear very fucked up, so you're not concerned he shouldn't be doing it at this point. Unfortuntaly, he was on some other medication (likely not even to get fucked up, but for medical reasons) ... and neither of you had any idea it would be a lethal mix.
Crap, I can't imagine the guilt I would feel. Imagine waking up and finding him dead.
My god. Assuming this is what happened (which it very well may not be), its not like he was Heroin Bob in SLC Punk. He's been doing drugs for years.
My guess, either he was simply partying at her place and what he took mixed with the other stuff he was taking, or maybe the 'worst' happened, and he bummed something from her and that was what led to the fatal combination. Assuming the latter, I'd bet his request wasn't unusual for their normal partying at all, but unfortunately for all involved ... it mixed with something in his system and killed him.
I actually feel sorry for her, especially if its the latter. Just imagine your having a party at your place, and one of your buds bums a lortab. Its an amount you've seen him take hundreds of times, and he doesn't appear very fucked up, so you're not concerned he shouldn't be doing it at this point. Unfortuntaly, he was on some other medication (likely not even to get fucked up, but for medical reasons) ... and neither of you had any idea it would be a lethal mix.
Crap, I can't imagine the guilt I would feel. Imagine waking up and finding him dead.
Karma Kramer
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Onix said:
Seriously... awesome post. People calling her a bitch, when they know NOTHING about this situation or her... are fucking RIDICULOUS.
eso76
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Enk said:
heh, i have been thinking Brandon Lee's death was faked for quite some time.
they really wanted the crow to become some cult movie, and i found it very hard to believe that kind of thing happens accidentally. Very hard, especially considering the analogies with his father's death.
who was held responsible for his death anyway ?
i remember him claiming he thought he was very lucky to be given the chance to star in the movie...
now, to think Johnny Depp could have been in his place...(producers initially thought of him as Eric Draven).
nobody was held "accountable". The first blank casing didn't eject properly causing the second blank to fire it like a bullet. the person who fired the gun was the stunt coordinator if I recall.eso76 said:
this is 100% false under US law. please try again.jtardiou said:
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I still can't believe they called the Olson girl BEFORE calling 911. What the fuck?
Mr. Durden
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HE DID NOT KILL HIMSELF, THE LITTLE SLUT MADE HIM TAKE THE PILLSJustin Bailey said:
The Wispy Scoundrel said:
yeah yeah while it's cool for an overactive imagination to be on a Gilliam set maybe your source is a little too blithe with her observations
You should read a recently released insight from an extra on the final two or so days of filming Parnassus in London. Heath was pushing himself to the brink for the movie.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...inal-cut-an-exculsive-onset-diary-864638.html
jtardiou said:
Does anyone know if there are actual laws on this ruling either way regarding drug dealers? I work in a bar, and if I serve someone, they leave, kill themselves/other people, then I'm accountable. If they kill someone else on the road, the victim's family can sue me or the restaurant before the drunk fucker. I can serve someone 1 drink, unaware that they've been out drinking all day, and I'm still accountable. And a lot of times, people will come in drunk, and I'll tell them they can have 1 drink, then pour it outrageously weak or make it all soda, but I would have no way to prove in court that their drink was only made to look alcoholic, and not actually alcoholic.
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MagicJackBauer said:
Heath Ledger killed himself. Michelle just is his supplier
DemonSwordsman
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I hope they tear the olsen hoes apart just because they are bitches.
no, the law (as in criminal) works directly. If you give someone drugs (aka administer or even sell) and that person dies as a direct result from taking those drugs (aka ODs, not drives off the road) then you are liable. Your alcohol references would only be valid if you kept serving the person alcohol and he died right there on the spot from alcohol poisoning. That is how the criminal portion of it works.lennedsay said:
Now the CIVIL portion.. oh shit... no real limit. Sure, I can see you serving a patron, that guy killing someone else and then their family suing you. who knows if it would stick or not, but thus the fucked up'edness of civil suits.
But as far as criminal level shit goes, it basically comes down to "did something you did with that person directly relate to their death". If the answer to that is yes, then you could be facing charges. and frankly once you get out of the "recreational" area of this argument and get down to basics, that's how it SHOULD work. If something you did directly lead to someones death, you should definitely be considered for charges depending on the circumstances.
BlueTsunami said:
Tell that to every fucking doctor in the U.S. Oxycontin is not so widely prescribed, but the amount of Vicodin scripts given out is insane. I'm not so eager to hop into the witch hunt because of that.
Plus, who the hell is to say that it wasn't just a casual "hey, mind if I bum a few vicodins off of you" kinda request. That wouldn't be completely out of the ordinary, especially in hollywood. No way she should be held accountable for that.
But I know gaf is gonna turn this into "OMG She forced him to take so he would die i luv batman"
One thing the people referencing drug laws are forgetting, he didn't actually OD in the traditional sense.
ie. he wasn't given some drug by someone, took too much and it killed him. He had an accidental overdose, where something he took mixed with something else. In otherwords, the stuff taken seperately would not have killed him, and were relatively normal amounts (I don't recall any info in the coroner's report stating he had extremely high levels of anything in his system).
It was an unfortunate bad combo that killed him.
ie. he wasn't given some drug by someone, took too much and it killed him. He had an accidental overdose, where something he took mixed with something else. In otherwords, the stuff taken seperately would not have killed him, and were relatively normal amounts (I don't recall any info in the coroner's report stating he had extremely high levels of anything in his system).
It was an unfortunate bad combo that killed him.
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