Plague Doctor
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Silent Hill 2 has not been dethroned as the best horror game.
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In your opinion, the oldest game that has yet to be outclassed in its genre?
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LokusAbriss
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Death Stranding. Still the best stranding game to date.
Electric-Wizard
Neo Member
F-Zero X, racing game masterpiece.
Can watch this shizzle forever. These particular videos not in 60 fps though :-(
Also, I still love Tekken 3.
Both games hold up beautifully today.
Can watch this shizzle forever. These particular videos not in 60 fps though :-(
Also, I still love Tekken 3.
Both games hold up beautifully today.
GreatnessRD
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Smackdown vs. Raw 2006
None of the games from 2008-present could ever stack up to this beast. Visual Concepts COULD NEVER.
None of the games from 2008-present could ever stack up to this beast. Visual Concepts COULD NEVER.
Fbh
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Chrono Trigger is still the best traditional JRPG IMO.
It's still the perfect mix of a fun cast of characters, an enjoyable story, a great world with a lot of varied locations, great turn based combat and a good length that doesn't make it feel as stretched out and full of padding as many of the 80+ hours RPG's we get now.
Also, thanks to the visual style and some forward thinking design decisions, it has avoided some issues that diminish some other classic JRPG. For example visually it has held up incredibly well, it has some modern features like NG+ and, maybe most importantly, no fucking random encounters.
It's still the perfect mix of a fun cast of characters, an enjoyable story, a great world with a lot of varied locations, great turn based combat and a good length that doesn't make it feel as stretched out and full of padding as many of the 80+ hours RPG's we get now.
Also, thanks to the visual style and some forward thinking design decisions, it has avoided some issues that diminish some other classic JRPG. For example visually it has held up incredibly well, it has some modern features like NG+ and, maybe most importantly, no fucking random encounters.
MikonJuice
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Of course, humble opinion, always:
- Guitar Hero 2 (you didn't need special controller)
- FFVII materia system is still one the best, most addicting rpg system ever
- Mass Effect 2: number of awesome characters and spectacular choices...\
- Mafia is still the best mafia themed game ever... which is absurdy given the time passed since its release
- Ragnarok Online still have nothing close to that...
- Guitar Hero 2 (you didn't need special controller)
- FFVII materia system is still one the best, most addicting rpg system ever
- Mass Effect 2: number of awesome characters and spectacular choices...\
- Mafia is still the best mafia themed game ever... which is absurdy given the time passed since its release
- Ragnarok Online still have nothing close to that...
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Possibly my fav PC game of all time.After thinking for a bit, and seeing so many wrong opinions, I had to drop some actual truth here. It's Heros of Might and Magic III.
If you never played it and enjoye old school turnbased strategy gaming you should try it. Came out about 20 years ago, but solid looking artwork and sprites.
Look into getting the Complete Edition which adds the expansion packs and the best feature of all......... random map generator mode. I didn't even play the campaign. I went straight to random maps against the PC and enjoyed it.
Technically, one of the expansion packs was the one that had the random map mode.... I forget which one. But if you get the Complete Edition, you get everything.
There is also a recently released Might & Magic III HD version, but I have no idea what kind of content it has vs. the 20 year old bundle.
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MilkLizard
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Gameboy Tetris.
ultrazilla
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Half-Life 2
Half Life 2 was destroyed by Crysis 1 three years later. Better single player campaign, better ai, better physics and better graphics.Half-Life 2
Oh and by Doom 3 the same year actually
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Sid Of Bee
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Streets of Rage 2
Woo-Fu
Banned
Master of Magic.
Baldur's Gate II.
Hard list to think about. Is it true the games haven't been topped or is it more a case of the player having changed enough that the experience can't be duplicated?
An example would be a time in my early 20's when I was bedridden with some mysterious illness. The only thing that kept me sane during that month or so was Warsong on Genesis. Haven't been that entangled with a game since but I haven't been stuck in a bed for a month either so clearly it isn't just the game.
I've played a number of games that were supposed to be spiritual successors to Master of Magic and Baldur's Gate II but none of them have come close to the experiences I remember from those two games.
Baldur's Gate II.
Hard list to think about. Is it true the games haven't been topped or is it more a case of the player having changed enough that the experience can't be duplicated?
An example would be a time in my early 20's when I was bedridden with some mysterious illness. The only thing that kept me sane during that month or so was Warsong on Genesis. Haven't been that entangled with a game since but I haven't been stuck in a bed for a month either so clearly it isn't just the game.
I've played a number of games that were supposed to be spiritual successors to Master of Magic and Baldur's Gate II but none of them have come close to the experiences I remember from those two games.
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StormCell
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Going to cast this out there and see if anyone bites.
Mark Davis Pro Bass Challenge
At the time of writing this, I'm having a "Holy f#$k" moment as I never knew it released for GameCube. I own it for PS2, and it is easily the best bass fishing game ever made. I know of only one other game that actually involves boat positioning and using the trolling motor on the front deck of the boat. Casting is actually important whether you're skipping up under docks or bombing lures directly on top the fish you're trying to catch. Winter and spring seasons actually feature harsh fishing patterns that are really challenging to locate and catch bass.
I understand if you're not at all into the sport of bass fishing, but this GCN/PS2 era game is like the last great offering to this niche genre. It's really too bad that the marketplace just doesn't have the bounty of sports titles it once did, and understandably the audience for this game would obviously rather be out on the lake fishing than sitting at home in front of the TV.
Mark Davis Pro Bass Challenge
At the time of writing this, I'm having a "Holy f#$k" moment as I never knew it released for GameCube. I own it for PS2, and it is easily the best bass fishing game ever made. I know of only one other game that actually involves boat positioning and using the trolling motor on the front deck of the boat. Casting is actually important whether you're skipping up under docks or bombing lures directly on top the fish you're trying to catch. Winter and spring seasons actually feature harsh fishing patterns that are really challenging to locate and catch bass.
I understand if you're not at all into the sport of bass fishing, but this GCN/PS2 era game is like the last great offering to this niche genre. It's really too bad that the marketplace just doesn't have the bounty of sports titles it once did, and understandably the audience for this game would obviously rather be out on the lake fishing than sitting at home in front of the TV.
DeceptiveAlarm
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This is my awnser to all most all of the goat or remember when threads.
Starsiege Tribes. Best fpsz hands down.
Best team competition shooter I ever played.
Starsiege Tribes. Best fpsz hands down.
Best team competition shooter I ever played.
EightBit Man
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What is your favorite Sonic title on Mega Drive? I personally think it is so difficult to choose from because they are all really great games. I like the pureness of the Mega Drive Sonic games. They are in a way more purer than the Super Mario Bros. games, especially the first one. Some people have drawn parallels between the Mega Drive Sonic games, and Donkey Kong Country, in that they have a certain flow, and do not really rely on power-ups, and I think there is something to it.
Puyo Puyo is solid gold.
Trogdor1123
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Final Fantasy 6
Demon's souls
Guild wars
Pharoh (with the Cleopatra expansion)
Starcraft
Blades of Steel
Galaga
X-Men (6 player arcade version)
Demon's souls
Guild wars
Pharoh (with the Cleopatra expansion)
Starcraft
Blades of Steel
Galaga
X-Men (6 player arcade version)
Starlight Lotice
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What is your favorite Sonic title on Mega Drive? I personally think it is so difficult to choose from because they are all really great games. I like the pureness of the Mega Drive Sonic games. They are in a way more purer than the Super Mario Bros. games, especially the first one. Some people have drawn parallels between the Mega Drive Sonic games, and Donkey Kong Country, in that they have a certain flow, and do not really rely on power-ups, and I think there is something to it.
Puyo Puyo is solid gold.
Depends but I do go with Sonic 2 a lot despite changing my mind every single year. What makes Sonic for me is the unique and memorable levels with different gimmicks which shine well in Mania on just how great they were.
I could never get into DKC because it felt nearly impossible to beat some of the later levels and the controls aren't great on top of weird bottomless pits.
I love Puyo Puyo and own the original game as I love the art-style to it!
PlayStaytion
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Megaman X
DoctaThompson
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Superman 64. Doubt another game can come to the level of shit this game was.
DoctaThompson
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Still my favorite Zelda game to this date. Majora's mask was amazing, and so was windwaker, but I feel the 64 versions are better than the GC, WII, switch versions. Just my opinion of course.
GnomeChimpsky
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Alpha Centauri is still unsurpassed when it comes to unit customisation, world building, faction variety etc. Every spiritual successor has been a pale imitation.
Danjin44
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DoctaThompson
Banned
Daaaaaamn didn't remember this gem! This might be a contender or more lol
HerpDerpstreit
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AC4 was my favorite in the series, the story telling method they chose was fantastic and the missions were on point. Would absolutely adore a remaster of this one.
Whitesnake
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Every single Monster Hunter clone I play feels bare-bones, hollow, and lifeless.
God Eater, Toukiden, Dauntless, none of them have felt nearly as good as the OG Monster Hunter series.
And that’s odd, because it’s not like Monster Hunter has some phenomenal super-unique aspect that’s hard to imitate. Hell, some of those games are better than MH in an aspect or two. But the gameplay is never as satisfying, the playstyles are always more limited, the gameplay loop is usually a barebones imitation of MH’s gameplay loop (which wasn’t exactly complex to begin with). Kill the monster, make its equipment, get quests.
It’s the stiff execution in these games that makes me appreciate all the little things in MH. Like how the NPC conversations build the world and often build up the monsters as this great threat you have to fight, or how the monster parts all have names and descriptions that make it seem as if you actually carved them from a beast, or how the game build up the monsters as proper threats by showcasing their abilities before you fight them or even just having an in-game NPC tell you how dangerous it is.
In Toukiden and God Eater they just give you a dry list of shit to do. No flair, no buildup, just giving a chore to do. I think that’s the problem, MH tries with all of its might to distract you from the fact that what you’re doing is a grinding chore, which it’s usually successful in doing, but other games just don’t understand how to do that.
And they all always seem hyper-focused on multiplayer to the point that instead of making a fun single-player experience, they just give you a bunch of AI companions that all have the same toolset you do, which means they can pretty much always draw aggro and tank the monster’s hits while your sitting there doing one of two total combos your weapon is capable of, and the ones not tanking hits heal you.
Monster Hunter avoids this issue by having your AI companions be super-weak, super-limited beings that only act on the whims of the moody AI. They‘ll sometimes heal you, but you can’t depend on it. The monster will sometimes focus on your AI buddies, but it’s never for long.
In these other games it feels like they’re saying “Oh, you don’t have 3 friends playing with you? Here’s some bots to carry you until you make some friends, nerd.”
God Eater, Toukiden, Dauntless, none of them have felt nearly as good as the OG Monster Hunter series.
And that’s odd, because it’s not like Monster Hunter has some phenomenal super-unique aspect that’s hard to imitate. Hell, some of those games are better than MH in an aspect or two. But the gameplay is never as satisfying, the playstyles are always more limited, the gameplay loop is usually a barebones imitation of MH’s gameplay loop (which wasn’t exactly complex to begin with). Kill the monster, make its equipment, get quests.
It’s the stiff execution in these games that makes me appreciate all the little things in MH. Like how the NPC conversations build the world and often build up the monsters as this great threat you have to fight, or how the monster parts all have names and descriptions that make it seem as if you actually carved them from a beast, or how the game build up the monsters as proper threats by showcasing their abilities before you fight them or even just having an in-game NPC tell you how dangerous it is.
In Toukiden and God Eater they just give you a dry list of shit to do. No flair, no buildup, just giving a chore to do. I think that’s the problem, MH tries with all of its might to distract you from the fact that what you’re doing is a grinding chore, which it’s usually successful in doing, but other games just don’t understand how to do that.
And they all always seem hyper-focused on multiplayer to the point that instead of making a fun single-player experience, they just give you a bunch of AI companions that all have the same toolset you do, which means they can pretty much always draw aggro and tank the monster’s hits while your sitting there doing one of two total combos your weapon is capable of, and the ones not tanking hits heal you.
Monster Hunter avoids this issue by having your AI companions be super-weak, super-limited beings that only act on the whims of the moody AI. They‘ll sometimes heal you, but you can’t depend on it. The monster will sometimes focus on your AI buddies, but it’s never for long.
In these other games it feels like they’re saying “Oh, you don’t have 3 friends playing with you? Here’s some bots to carry you until you make some friends, nerd.”
Danjin44
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I would say Souls Sacrifice is very unique take on MH structure.
But you need to understand, it only borrows it structure, other than that its very different game than MH series.
KURDISTAN YPG
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gta, lot of wannabes not one close to it,
EightBit Man
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Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec.
DoctaThompson
Banned
Love this comment so much! Although I loved SF4 compared to 5... 3 Alpha was bae!
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NecrosaroIII
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Lord of the rings online
DelireMan7
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Dark Souls has yet to be outclassed in the category "videogame"
Bankai
Member
Deus Ex
Without a doubt! That game had branching paths, real choices that mattered immensely to story-progression. I'm still in awe on what they accomplished with it back in the day. Gameplay has it quirks for sure, but some aspects still haven't been topped.
I'm hoping Cyberpunk will be the one that trumps it (but in reality I know I'll always prefer Deus Ex ;-) )
Without a doubt! That game had branching paths, real choices that mattered immensely to story-progression. I'm still in awe on what they accomplished with it back in the day. Gameplay has it quirks for sure, but some aspects still haven't been topped.
I'm hoping Cyberpunk will be the one that trumps it (but in reality I know I'll always prefer Deus Ex ;-) )
Kadve
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Ride to hell moves into so bad it's good territory though. i would still say superman 64 i "worse" in that i wouldn't want to play it.