I thought they wanted to get away from 4-mana sweepers. This seems to prove the contrary.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT8| Eldritch Moon - It's only a paper (and digital) moon
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I thought they wanted to get away from 4-mana sweepers. This seems to prove the contrary.
Languish is the last bastion of sweepers at 4 mana. Once it's gone we'll be stuck with shit like Planar Outburst or even worse, Descend Upon the Sinful, they might even be like "mehhhhhh sweepers are for commander, just keep them at 6 mana"
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Their presence causes the types of corruption that they are associated with:
Ulamog affects mana and energy by draining it.
Kozilek affects reality around itself by distorting it.
Emrakul affects life and living matter by corrupting it.
That's why they all have different types of "corruption" - Ulamog turns things to dust, Kozilek warps them into bismuth like structures, Emrakul's corrupts living things into fleshy tentacles, but has no-effect on non-living matter.
This is why Liliana is being set up as the hero of the arc: her zombies aren't alive and can't be corrupted.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Didn't Vampires get corrupted. That doesn't add up.
Angry Grimace
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At least on Innistrad, Vampirism is a curse taken on by drinking the blood of an angel. They're not undead.
I don't mind them at 5. I understand the current need, though, considering Collected Company is still in. But making 4-5 cc creatures obey the same thinking is ridiculous.
Oh don't get me wrong we still have a long way to go. I'm not out yet, just a bit disappointed thus far that's all. Emrakul just wasn't what I was looking for and so far every Mythic has been sort of disappointing except the tree, which I want for edh but that's about it. I'm still hopeful though,just burnt out on eldrazi for sure. Someone else mentioned they should have done these eldrazi sets backwards which seems like it would have been super sweet, I would have been on board for that imo.
So is Sorin a "real" vampire? Is it cause Angel's probably a part of his blood since he made them and so it just gets passed down. What happens if you just drink Sorin's blood. We must find out.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Sorin is a real vampire. He was made a vampire by his grandfather Edgar (we have no idea where Edgar is, actually), who was told how to do this by a demon named Shilgengar, and Sorin became a Planeswalker due to the strain of being made a vampire. Becoming an Oldwalker did not, apparently remove the curse either.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Weren't oldwalkers without actual form? Isn't it more like getting demoted to a Nuwalker returned him to his original cursed form.
Angry Grimace
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/savor-flavor/planes-planechase-2009-12-30
Reading this old articles on the Planes they made up makes me want sets on a lot of them.
I think Muraganda is still top of the list (Prehistoric World!). I always wanted to do real Phyrexia, but I don't know if you could even design an entire set on a place that is almost literally just Hell.
I liked that they invented an entire plane just to explain why Segovian Leviathan was a 3/3 (its a plane that is basically just Lilliput from Gulliver's Travels and everything there is tiny)
Reading this old articles on the Planes they made up makes me want sets on a lot of them.
I think Muraganda is still top of the list (Prehistoric World!). I always wanted to do real Phyrexia, but I don't know if you could even design an entire set on a place that is almost literally just Hell.
I liked that they invented an entire plane just to explain why Segovian Leviathan was a 3/3 (its a plane that is basically just Lilliput from Gulliver's Travels and everything there is tiny)
It's a throwback to
What they said was that sweeper lower than 5 will be conditional, but sweepers 5 and higher will be unconditional with upside. Languish fits that mold.
To be clear, Sorin only created Avacyn, not the other angels.
charlequin
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Aren't the base characteristics of a token applied first, before layered effects? I'm going off this: http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Interaction_of_continuous_effects
The need to put some card advantage or mitigation on the fronts does limit it somewhat.
I'm gonna be legit annoyed if this isn't true, it seems so heavily set up.
I think Muraganda and Kaldheim are intended to be settings for blocks and we'll almost certainly see them (or renamed versions of them) soonish, and I suspect we'll get Shandalar eventually. Ir and Valla also seem at least possible.
Angry Grimace
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They had a line in Nahiri's story where she mentioned the Silver Moon was made of the same material as the Helvault but it hasn't been relevant in any other way. It seems like a very obvious Chekov's Gun.
There's also the fact that the set is named Eldritch Moon and the moon is so far completely irrelevant to anything in the story.
There's also the fact that the set is named Eldritch Moon and the moon is so far completely irrelevant to anything in the story.
In this case, the base characteristics are a direct copy of the creature, then the token-creating ability sets its power and toughness to 1. it's similar to Quicksilver Gargantuan.
In Tamiyo's Journal she called the force acting on Innistrad an "Eldritch Moon." It turned out to be Emrakul.
Angry Grimace
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I'm going to go with the obvious and say its just an unusual looking Asian-featured lady - the story made it clear it was a lady.
Re: Muraganda, sometime last year MaRo was trying to talk about dragons or something on one of his podcasts and accidentally said dinosaurs instead. Not to mention with the popularity of Jurassic World, I wouldn't be surprised to see dinosaurs show up in the next year or two.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Y'all talking bout dinos when they are lizard beasts ;3
charlequin
Banned
Oh, I see, the reason I didn't know how this worked is that it literally used to work the exact opposite way and they changed it: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Discussion.aspx?multiverseid=207874
Angry Grimace
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I would laugh my ass off if they had
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Muraganda Tyrannosaur
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Trample
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That card seems a lot worse than Terra Stomper.
...which means they'll probably print it.
Angry Grimace
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Its just Force of Nature, I just was mostly pointing to the creature type
The Technomancer
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Vryn, from what we've seen, would be a half decent setting for a fantasy novel but not a particularly good setting for a Magic set, I feel.
Well, they still have time
Well, they still have time
charlequin
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Right now Vryn is a bowl of Cheerios because it's hard to do creative development on ten worlds at a time so they just photocopied the one thing they'd already established about it onto every card set there. When we do a block (and we will, every other planeswalker gets one for their homeworld) presumably they'll do slightly more work to make it interesting.
I'm into it.
Angry Grimace
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Except Liliana, she has like 30 sets on her homeworld!
I thought 4 mana was for conditional sweepers, which Languish would be a part of.
Angry Grimace
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LSV named his daughter "Naya" and then tried to argue it doesn't count as naming your kid after a Magic card because that's not a card name.
Angry Grimace
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I mean, yeah it would have been worse if he tried to name her Esper or Jund.
The Technomancer
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Some Lets Players I follow most famous for playing every Sonic game named their daughter first name Amelia middle name Rose and swear that they weren't intentionally naming her Amy Rose
Also I just bust out laughing at "Esper Scott Vargas"
Also I just bust out laughing at "Esper Scott Vargas"
Jund wouldn't be too bad a middle name, actually.
...ehhhh
Infinite Stars
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I mean, I gotta give him some credit for picking a non-character Magic name that works, but there's plenty of better options.
A Serious Man
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Esper Scott Vargas would have been destined to write the next great American novel.
charlequin
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No dice. If AutocardAnywhere highlights it, it counts as a card name!
SigmasonicX
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But Chandler tho
People are seriously spoiled these days when "Use an activated ability to transform into a different creature entirely" is dull design.
We do have a bit of info on Vryn just from Jace's origin story. Assuming things haven't changed much, two sides of a confliect were warring over control of the mage rings, but Alhammaret was basically manipulating them (and Jace) to make sure the war never ends.
I think the more likely reason we won't go to Vryn right after Kaladesh is because Jace was just the protagonist of Shadows Over Innistrad. It'd be a bit too soon to have he be "the face" again just a year later. I'm guessing Kaldheim or Shandalar comes after Kaladesh. Shandalar's gimmick is that it's a "wandering plane;" it actually drifts though the multiverse. I could see them having whatever Aether shenanigans go on in Aether revolt some how affecting Shandalar and having that be the connecting thread.
Imperfected
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I wish I could enjoy my job half as much as Elder Deep-Fiend does.
charlequin
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Maro on planeswalkers:
That sure sounds like a dodge around admitting the Tamiyo card to me...
Yeah, I agree.
In terms of Rosewater's "short list" of plane ideas, excepting ones we've already seen, I think the most likely options to see show up are: Egyptian World, Prehistoric World (that would be Muraganda), High Fantasy World, Viking World (this would be Kaldheim), and maybe Fairy Tale world or Pirate World. None of the other pre-existing worlds we've talked about really fit any of those archetypes.
That sure sounds like a dodge around admitting the Tamiyo card to me...
Yeah, I agree.
In terms of Rosewater's "short list" of plane ideas, excepting ones we've already seen, I think the most likely options to see show up are: Egyptian World, Prehistoric World (that would be Muraganda), High Fantasy World, Viking World (this would be Kaldheim), and maybe Fairy Tale world or Pirate World. None of the other pre-existing worlds we've talked about really fit any of those archetypes.
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