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[OnPoint]

I miss Kibler

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Even though it's subjective, there are guidelines on what's considered detrimental. The important thing to keep in mind is that a trigger is either always or never considered detrimental; the current game state is never taken into account. So, for example, Bitterblossom's trigger isn't considered detrimental, even if the player is at 1 life.

When a player misses a trigger, the opponent gets to choose whether or not to place it on the stack once the error has been noticed (assuming it hasn't been too long).

No warnings are given for advantageous triggers missed this way. For detrimental triggers, the player who missed the trigger will get a warning.

that sounds like a complete mess. What's the argument to not having both players be responsible for triggers? I guess it could be hard to track since it's gonna happen a lot.

 

[Joe Molotov]

I overheard a judge giving both players a verbal warning for failing to maintain a proper board state because one player put a card in the graveyard that should have been exiled instead. Not sure what the rules are for a warning like that.

 

[Firemind]

LMAO

MTGO is fucked at the moment.

People keep disconnecting from the draft and I get random picks without actually seeing the pack.

 

[A Serious Man]

Enough with the overpowered bant creatures.

Spoiler

Bring back squirrels.

 

[Ashodin]

I dare you to do Squirrel Tribal EDH

 

[ultron87]

that sounds like a complete mess. What's the argument to not having both players be responsible for triggers? I guess it could be hard to track since it's gonna happen a lot.

It really sucked to be forced to remind your opponent of things that they should be taking care of. The current rules are pretty solid, and are backed up by the part where if someone does something like suddenly forgetting their Dark Confidant or Bitterblossom triggers when they get to low life it'll probably get them DQed for cheating.

 

[Crocodile]

For those curious, the person who WOTC consulted with on Kaya's creation talks a little about it

Interesting changes this paired with the new T8 seeding should make for less collusion hopefully

This reads like gobbly-guk to me but since I likely won't ever be in contention for Top 8 of a Pro-Tour I guess I'll just ignore this? It'll probbaly end up screwing LSV (or someone else I like) out of Top 8 though

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

It really sucked to be forced to remind your opponent of things that they should be taking care of. The current rules are pretty solid, and are backed up by the part where if someone does something like suddenly forgetting their Dark Confidant or Bitterblossom triggers when they get to low life it'll probably get them DQed for cheating.

I mean those are extreme cases but give the prior example of duskwatch recruiter it can be impossible to know of missing the trigger is beneficial or detrimental most often and I've seen it happen too often already on camera.

 

[Akim]

It's Eldritch Moon Eldritch Moon Shadows Over Innistrad in that order.
There's sites like top8draft.com but the neural network isn't particularly good.

Thanks for the answer.


If anyone plays in the Redmond (Washington) area, hit me up.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Would be a convenient time to replace Sorin as the defacto white black rep for a while.

That's what Zombie Elspeth is gonna do

 

[Santiako]

Stream of the Pro Tour is starting.

We are following BBD in the first draft, with Marshall commentating

 

[Firemind]

Stream of the Pro Tour is starting.

it's 1am

where the hell are they streaming from? lol

 

[SigmasonicX]

For those curious, the person who WOTC consulted with on Kaya's creation talks a little about it

I did notice that they gave Kaya "black hair" without making it an afro, which is very uncommon in mainstream media. Good to see that they specifically consulted people about things like that.

 

[Santiako]

it's 1am

where the hell are they streaming from? lol

Australia, so it's crap hours for all the rest of the world lol

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Sydney. I just ordered Pizza and a coke lol, long night ahead.

I hate BBd drafts, he tunnelvisions so badly.

 

[A Serious Man]

it's 1am

where the hell are they streaming from? lol

The moon, they're serious about EMN promotion.

 

[Angry Grimace]

oh yeah, I forgot they made the PT from some random country so its in the middle of the night or something comical like that

silly non-america countries, learn to sync your daytime with ours

 

[A Serious Man]

This glare is killing me.

 

[El Topo]

Huh, might as well watch some of the PT.

 

[Firemind]

zombies is a deck?

 

[shrapnelmagnet]

I wish there was a Twitch extension / option to mute particular commentators... You know which one. I am glad it's on, however

 

[bigkrev]

East coast USA here, so I'm happy we have coverage in Prime time

 

[ironmang]

I wish there was a Twitch extension / option to mute particular commentators... You know which one. I am glad it's on, however

Randy and BDM are definitely who I'd mute. Can't stand either of their voices and it doesn't help that they're generally both clueless at all times.

 

[Firemind]

"I wouldn't call Assembled Alphas a bomb."

-Ian Duke

 

[Santiako]

"I wouldn't call Assembled Alphas a bomb."

-Ian Duke

I heard that too, the card is insanely good and clearly a bomb.

 

[Firemind]

I heard that too, the card is insanely good and clearly a bomb.

I mean, I played against it, and I couldn't mass block it with my x/3 creatures because they would instantly die from the ability.

 

[Santiako]

I mean, I played against it, and I couldn't mass block it with my x/3 creatures because they would instantly die from the ability.

Yeah, I had one in my EMN prerelease and I never lost once I cast it, it's impossible to block or attack into.

 

[Infinite Stars]

This draft pod has 2 Deploy the Gatewatch.. no deck in here is going to do well, is it?

 

[SigmasonicX]

First time watching a draft stream. Nice to see that Stensia Innkeeper is appreciated.

 

[ironmang]

"I wouldn't call Assembled Alphas a bomb."

-Ian Duke

To be fair, Reid Duke gave it a Limited Rating of 2.5 during his review of the set.

 

[Firemind]

Well Reid Duke is an average player so.

 

[A Serious Man]

The Dukes are a cat family, confirmed.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Huh, might as well watch some of the PT.

Too late, Konami cancelled it.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Well Reid Duke is an average player so.

he can play control really well though.

I missed the panting of BDM and Randy on the road... not

 

[Firemind]

He compared Assembled Alphas, a red creature, to Kessig Dire Swine, a green creature.

As a red creature, you're already happy you're a Grey Ogre, Hill Giant or Gatstaf Arsonists.

 

[ironmang]

Well Reid Duke is an average player so.

He compared Assembled Alphas, a red creature, to Kessig Dire Swine, a green creature.

As a red creature, you're already happy you're a Grey Ogre, Hill Giant or Gatstaf Arsonists.

Still can't tell if serious... lol.

 

[Ashodin]

I'm ready for Constructed later when we'll see the cards all over the board like fucking 12 inches of snow

 

[WEGGLES]

Hi guys, work did a limited tournament where we started with 6 packs and added a pack a week for a bit. We're done that now, but I decided to expand my 40 card deck to 60 and give a FNM event a shot. Anyone have any critiques of my deck? I think I'm going to cut a vamp envoy and a kalastria healer for 2 pieces of card draw. Concerned I'll run out of gas with a curve such as this...

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/black-white-ally-life-steal-1/

What's some good black/white card draw currently in standard? Read the bones?

 

[Firemind]

If Reid Duke ever enters the HOF I'll commit sudoku.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Hi guys, work did a limited tournament where we started with 6 packs and added a pack a week for a bit. We're done that now, but I decided to expand my 40 card deck to 60 and give a FNM event a shot. Anyone have any critiques of my deck? I think I'm going to cut a vamp envoy and a kalastria healer for 2 pieces of card draw. Concerned I'll run out of gas with a curve such as this...

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/black-white-ally-life-steal-1/

What's some good black/white card draw currently in standard? Read the bones?

Read the bones is the card draw of choice right now but if you want to be able to operate at instant speed there's also succumb to temptation that foregoes the scry 2.

I'd recommend sideboarding a couple hallowed moonlight and seeing as creature based you are maybe eerie interludes.

 

[Ashodin]

draft is such a snoozefest

Once all the archetypes and good cards are figured out it becomes "who can get what" and then zzzzzzzz gameplay

 

[Firemind]

draft is such a snoozefest

Once all the archetypes and good cards are figured out it becomes "who can get what" and then zzzzzzzz gameplay

 

[El Topo]

draft is such a snoozefest

Once all the archetypes and good cards are figured out it becomes "who can get what" and then zzzzzzzz gameplay

You're a snoozefest.

Spoiler

Not really.

 

[ironmang]

draft is such a snoozefest

Once all the archetypes and good cards are figured out it becomes "who can get what" and then zzzzzzzz gameplay

I think the biggest problem with draft at the PT is the huge amount of downtime. The draft ended over an hour ago, why does it take so long to build, register, sleeve, and give pairings. I'd prefer if they just delayed the stream to have the draft go right into the first round with them showing draft breakdowns of other players between rounds.

 

[Firemind]

seth manfield looks so awkward

probably gonna go into the hof in a few years

oh shit owen the saltenwald

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Owen Turtenwald with hair looks weird, so normal and not at all menacing. Also handsome, he looks like he could work in a bank or something.

seth manfield looks so awkward

probably gonna go into the hof in a few years

oh shit owen the saltenwald

he constantly looks and sounds like he's close to crying

 

[Crocodile]

If Reid Duke ever enters the HOF I'll commit sudoku.

Well I guess enjoy the next three years, they will be your last on this planet.

draft is such a snoozefest

Once all the archetypes and good cards are figured out it becomes "who can get what" and then zzzzzzzz gameplay

Good lord! This might be the worst Magic related post I've seen online in a good while.

 

[blindrocket]

Watching the Snapcasters Thursday night Legacy stream instead of (ewwww) draft.

 

[SigmasonicX]

Haha, of course there was a software problem with the pairings.