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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread

Anth0ny

Member
Honestly for DBZ you have to stretch that universe pretty thin to get past 30 characters without getting into Z tier characters like Tarbel and Jayce from the Ginyu force. That's not quite the case with a MvC game.

DBZ still needs a 20+ character roster to support 3v3 game play. Otherwise these games get stale quick when every team has a few staple characters that show up (ie. your Dooms)

I made a 36 character roster without even getting close to stretching the universe thin fam

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The question is whether Ark Sys is big enough to make a DBZ game with a large roster. I'm hoping they'll be given the time and budget to do that this time around.
 

JeTmAn81

Member
I have to admit I've watched almost 20 DBZ episodes today out of hype for DB Fighterz. I've never seen the show. The show is nuts.
 

SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
Definitely one of the biggest issues with the leaked list.
Not even being able to hit 1/4th ratio is pretty sad.

It's absolutely appalling. Like I said before they need to take their list and go back to the table because the idea that they could skate by with a total of 4 females in their starting line up is laughable, doubly so when the two reps from capcom are the safest picks you could make.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
I made a 36 character roster without even getting close to stretching the universe thin fam

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The question is whether Ark Sys is big enough to make a DBZ game with a large roster. I'm hoping they'll be given the time and budget to do that this time around.

I dont know a third of those people. Who the fuck is that dude with the penis head for example. Are these non-Z guys from Super?
 

Order

Member
I made a 36 character roster without even getting close to stretching the universe thin fam

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The question is whether Ark Sys is big enough to make a DBZ game with a large roster. I'm hoping they'll be given the time and budget to do that this time around.
If this was the full roster after all the DLC, it'd be the best DB game of all time.
 

Dahbomb

Member
I made a 36 character roster without even getting close to stretching the universe thin fam

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The question is whether Ark Sys is big enough to make a DBZ game with a large roster. I'm hoping they'll be given the time and budget to do that this time around.
Gotta be shitting me with that roster.

3 Buu characters? Fucking Yamcha? And even fusion forms of Saiyans when a third of the roster is already Saiyans? 3 Namekians? Two Trunks? 4 Gokus? LMAO!

Nah son that shit is stretching it HELLA thin.
 

Skab

Member
Gotta be shitting me with that roster.

3 Buu characters? Fucking Yamcha? And even fusion forms of Saiyans when a third of the roster is already Saiyans? 3 Namekians? Two Trunks? 4 Gokus? LMAO!

Nah son that shit is stretching it HELLA thin.

I agree with everything minus the 3 buus. That I would actually be okay with considering they all fight pretty differently and have different personalities.
 

PSqueak

Banned
Gotta be shitting me with that roster.

3 Buu characters? Fucking Yamcha? And even fusion forms of Saiyans when a third of the roster is already Saiyans? 3 Namekians? Two Trunks? 4 Gokus? LMAO!

Nah son that shit is stretching it HELLA thin.

I agree 3 buus is too much, slim bu should go away, Fat buu and Kid buu are acceptable.

Second bit tho, come the fuck on man, we all have a good laugh with yamcha jokes, but you are batshit insane if you think fans don't want Yamcha in this.
 

eggandI

Banned
Lmao penis head dude is called Hit and he's from Super. He can skip ahead in time and that's how he fights

e- ah beaten, hadn't refreshed the page
 

Sayad

Member
The question is whether Ark Sys is big enough to make a DBZ game with a large roster. I'm hoping they'll be given the time and budget to do that this time around.

ASW isn't big enough, but depending how much Bandai Namco is welling to spend it can be achieved since the majority of the work is outsourced. Xrd team was less than 30 but that's basically the talent behind the game, the labor work was outsourced in China.

Edit: wow, this isn't DBF's thread, why all the DB talk here?!!!
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enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
They just said there will be trailers and announcements during the pre-show, so if you're like me and don't have jack shit to do right now, might be worth tuning in.
 
Honestly for DBZ you have to stretch that universe pretty thin to get past 30 characters without getting into Z tier characters like Tarbel and Jayce from the Ginyu force. That's not quite the case with a MvC game. And DBZ is making characters from the ground up, MvC I already has a solid base of characters and moveset to work off of.

DBZ still needs a 20+ character roster to support 3v3 game play. Otherwise these games get stale quick when every team has a few staple characters that show up (ie. your Dooms)

For the sake of this I won't include fusions (which could easily be their own characters) or multiple forms (like kid gohan, great saiyanman, mystic gohan) unless I think there is a very strong case for including both

Goku
Gohan
Vegeta
Piccolo
Krillin
Tien
Supreme Kai
Future Trunks
Kid Trunks
Goten
Videl
Mr Satan
Recoome
Captain Ginyu
Freeza
16
17
18
19
20
Perfect Cell
Majin Buu
Kid Buu
Beerus
Whis
Champa
Goku Black
Zamatsu
Caulifa

That's easily 30 right there and there are more characters from super and from og dragon ball they could use. If you want to split hairs over who counts as "z grade" you can move the goal post all day but of my list the character with the least significant screen time is android 19. You could swap 19 for nappa or another major character from super.
 
The thing with DB is that basically 90% of the cast fights exactly the same. Developers have to be really creative with their move sets to differentiate themselves from one another.
 
I am kind of waiting for the "For those of you who want X-Men and 3v3 in your MvC game, there is a product for you...it's called UMVC3" moment.
I'm waiting for this too.

Better to close the door entirely and honestly than to pretend the game will have more features than it does.

They screwed up calling it Marvel vs Capcom when it's really MCU vs Capcom.

Someone should launch Ike Perlmutter into outer space.
 

Dahbomb

Member
If you are doing shit like listing two versions of a character like Trunks then you are already messing up and stretching.

That's worse than listing Warmachine and Iron Man. Imagine Marvel pulling that in Infinite, people would have a fit.
 

Zetta

Member
I made a 36 character roster without even getting close to stretching the universe thin fam

dbzrosterfanartcropppbvsts.png



The question is whether Ark Sys is big enough to make a DBZ game with a large roster. I'm hoping they'll be given the time and budget to do that this time around.

I see no Uub in this so I don't like this roster. I hope they include some of the movie because Janemba is a badass character to have.
 

MrCarter

Member
It's a capcom fighting game. It's audience includes a lot of people who rather the game be popular than good, because that's more important.

Oh fuck off with that shit. "It's audience" wants the core game and mechanics just as good as any other fighting game and one of the reasons why they tend to be "popular" is because it's mostly successful at that. MvCi has issues aesthetically but I can't deny it has the potential to play very well.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
odds on Spidey being one of the new characters? Well "new".

Sony press conference and the movie is out next month.
 

JeTmAn81

Member
If you are doing shit like listing two versions of a character like Trunks then you are already messing up and stretching.

That's worse than listing Warmachine and Iron Man. Imagine Marvel pulling that in Infinite, people would have a fit.

Bone Claw Bulma pls
 
If you are doing shit like listing two versions of a character like Trunks then you are already messing up and stretching.

That's worse than listing Warmachine and Iron Man. Imagine Marvel pulling that in Infinite, people would have a fit.

Kid Trunks and Future Trunks are radically different characters and I can defend both being in the roster fairly easily. Fuck both characters existed on screen together TWICE during the series. They fight completely differently, have drastically different personalities, and have very different roles in the story.

Majin Buu and Kid buu are similar in that regard.
 
If you are doing shit like listing two versions of a character like Trunks then you are already messing up and stretching.

That's worse than listing Warmachine and Iron Man. Imagine Marvel pulling that in Infinite, people would have a fit.

I don't feel like Kid Trunks and Future Trunks are close to being the same like Warmachine and Iron man though.
 
And if you really wanna split hairs, you can drop kid trunks and kid buu for tao pai pai (major antagonist from the original dragon ball) and the infamous penis head as he's now called from super :p
 

Anth0ny

Member
Gotta be shitting me with that roster.

3 Buu characters? Fucking Yamcha? And even fusion forms of Saiyans when a third of the roster is already Saiyans? 3 Namekians? Two Trunks? 4 Gokus? LMAO!

Nah son that shit is stretching it HELLA thin.

If you consider fusions, saiyans and young/old versions of a character "stretching thin" then yeah I guess it's pretty fucking hard to make a dragon ball roster with more than 8 characters.

Fan favorite characters? Who wants that?
 

Dahbomb

Member
Kid Trunks and Future Trunks are radically different characters and I can defend both being in the roster fairly easily. Fuck both characters existed on screen together TWICE during the series. They fight completely differently, have drastically different personalities, and have very different roles in the story.

Majin Buu and Kid buu are similar in that regard.
Bro you trying to educate me like I haven't seen all of Dragon Ball. Nah putting in two Trunks is just wasting slots and is legitimately worse than putting in both IM and Warmachine. What's the point of having kid Trunks in when Gohan is already occupying the same game play space of kid Gohan? You already have a kid Saiyan in the game, the only thing of relevance that kid Trunks brings to the table is that he fuses with Goten (Goten who is another waste of another character slot). Future Trunk can least be a another sword normal character and has multiple transformations, much more of another rich moveset to be usable in a fighting game (which is what this is, not a Xenoverse type game so you have to make archetypes and character movesets that are diversified).

Like I would be less irritated by these lists if they had characters like Janenba or Piccon in them. At least they aren't generic clone Saiyan character #25.

If you consider fusions, saiyans and young/old versions of a character "stretching thin" then yeah I guess it's pretty fucking hard to make a dragon ball roster with more than 8 characters
Listing 4 versions of a character under the guise of "fan favorite" is disengenious. Not even Megaman fans want every version of MM in a VS game and you can bet your ass that all of those MM versions are fan favorites to someone.
 
In Supersonic Warriors, Ginyu was able to be assisted by the entire Ginyu Force, and #18 was able to be assisted by #17 and #18.

I know the latter option would annoy Slaythe, but I wonder if they might go that route. I don't think every Android will be in. Not right away, anyway.
 
Ehh, kinda lost me on the Iron Man and War Machine comparison, both can be pretty different when given time, I feel.

But throw me on the no kid trunks/goten train though.
 
Bro you trying to educate me like I haven't seen all of Dragon Ball. Nah putting in two Trunks is just wasting slots and is legitimately worse than putting in both IM and Warmachine. What's the point of having kid Trunks in when Gohan is already occupying the same game play space of kid Gohan? You already have a kid Saiyan in the game, the only thing of relevance that kid Trunks brings to the table is that he fuses with Goten (Goten who is another waste of another character slot). Future Trunk can least be a another sword normal character and has multiple transformations, much more of another rich moveset to be usable in a fighting game (which is what this is, not a Xenoverse type game so you have to make archetypes and character movesets that are diversified).

Like I would be less irritated by these lists if they had characters like Janenba or Piccon in them. At least they aren't generic clone Saiyan character #25.

Apparnetly you didn't pay much attention if you're trying to argue that kid trunks, goten, and cell saga gohan somehow fight the same or cover the same character coverage on the roster. You claim Jeice is a z grade character then suggestion Janemba and Piccon a one off movie villain and a rival from a filler arc that isn't even in dbz kai would be better choices? Warmachine for mvci is a far better choice then either of them for dbfz.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
the problem with fusions and kids and shit is that, lets face it, the DBZ universe characters dont really use that much of a diverse range of special moves, its mostly just blasts and shit.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Ehh, kinda lost me on the Iron Man and War Machine comparison, both can be pretty different when given time, I feel.

But throw me on the no kid trunks/goten train though.
Yea that's my point, Iron Man and War Machine are different characters with different potential movesets. It's like Green Lantern and Sinestro, similar abilities but different takes on it.

Yet the same people who want like 6 kid Saiyan characters in a DB game would have a fit over both IM and WM in a VS game.


For the record I think Janenba, Piccon and Jayce are all on the lower tier of characters. But if people are listing Broly and Gogeta then I get to list Janenba too. Hell might as well throw in Cooler too.
 

PSqueak

Banned
the problem with fusions and kids and shit is that, lets face it, the DBZ universe characters dont really use that much of a diverse range of special moves, its mostly just blasts and shit.

Ironically, the fusion of the two kids, Gotenks, had pretty unique attacks for a move set.
 

Slaythe

Member
In Supersonic Warriors, Ginyu was able to be assisted by the entire Ginyu Force, and #18 was able to be assisted by #17 and #18.

I know the latter option would annoy Slaythe, but I wonder if they might go that route. I don't think every Android will be in. Not right away, anyway.

Look.

It's a DBZ with 3 characters teams.

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This is literally shitting in the soup on their parts if the only actual 3 characters team of DBZ isn't included.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
In Supersonic Warriors, Ginyu was able to be assisted by the entire Ginyu Force, and #18 was able to be assisted by #17 and #18.

I know the latter option would annoy Slaythe, but I wonder if they might go that route. I don't think every Android will be in. Not right away, anyway.
If any android gets left out of launch, I'd rather it be 16 who waits it out.
 
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