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[Gamer79]

Maybe It's because I come from an older era where all this shit they use to give for free but I refuse to buy any micro-transactions. 9 out of 10 times is nothing but cosmetic bullshit anyway. I think of it as buying costume jewelry but worse because you actually own nothing. The way I see them is a way for a developer to remain lazy and just keep getting profits from old material. It's why games like GTA 5 and Fortnite and Rocket league go on for over a decade. These developers have no reason to innovate or to make new games so just keep splashing new coats of paint on the old shit and people will buy it. The state of gaming is the worst I have seen it in my many moons on this planet. Truth be told, there is only one game coming out that I want and thats GTA 6 and nothing else I see coming out I want to buy. The quality of new releases are just shit IMO.

Some will say it's my money and I like to play Fortnite and GTA 5 so what is the harm? The harm is you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. The people who keep buying the game passes and keep buying these micro-transactions are supporting this lazy shit and it effects all of us? How you ask?

Games like Fortnite and Rocket league: The developers of these games have 0 reason to innovate or to make any new games. They are making so much money by just developing a new shitty outfit or dance move. Bottom line Less games

GTA 5: Why is it still alive after a decade with Rockstar dragging it's feet for the Sequel? You guessed it... Micro-transactions. They were reeking in Billions by people buying this shit and even selling their $99 shark cards. We should of had GTA 6 years ago but because gamers kept buying the DLC, they kept it rolling.

Sony: Why are there so few great releases as opposite to other generations? Sony was spending Billions chasing that DLC money with projects like Concord. When Companies get as big as Sony they always chase trends and follow where the money is going. Micro-transactions was/is their focus now.

Madden/NBA 2K? Why are they the same game every year and mostly graded badly but refuse to change? Again Micro-transactions. The NBA 2k players by VC (virtual currency) like crack and Madden has it's MUT whales buying virtual cards to improve their virtual team and spending hundreds while doing it. Why should they change or make a good game engine or make a game that most people love? They are making so much money there is little incentive to change.

These are just a few examples off of the top of my head but I guarantee you there are dozens or hundreds more examples. Buying Micro-transactions especially when a company is making lots of cash just give them 0 incetive to innovate or even release new games. Without all this bullshit we would of Seen GTA 6 years ago, Madden and other shitty yearly franchises would be forced to improve, we would see more yearly releases with many companies who just live off ot their older work. Micro-transactions is shit for us as Gamers. Th publishers love it because the profits are off the charts but it means shit for us.

 

[NeverYouMind]

 

[Thebonehead]

Can I interest the OP in some horse armour?

 

[Kacho]

Thank you for finally saying what needed to be said

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

 

[MMaRsu]

GTA 5: Why is it still alive after a decade with Rockstar dragging it's feet for the Sequel? You guessed it... Micro-transactions. They were reeking in Billions by people buying this shit and even selling their $99 shark cards. We should of had GTA 6 years ago but because gamers kept buying the DLC, they kept it rolling.

First of all, its should have, not should of.

Second of all, they made RDR2 in the meantime, an actual achievement that no other company even comes close to matching even today. In open world standards.

Third, while it's true we might have gotten GTA V DLC, Online was always going to be a major hit and it's only logical for a company to capitalize on that success.

Four GTA 6 is going to be the best open world game going forward for probably the next 10 years. So I would hope they take all the time they need.

I do hate microtransactions and all that bullshit but there are far worse companies out there like WB, Namco Bandai, Activision/Blizzard and a lot more.

And yes EA/2K with their horrible practices, it should be illegal. But they probably pay money to regulators so they are exempt.

 

[lughnasadh123]

This would be true if there wasn't countless amazing games all through the year for as long as micro transactions have been in game.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

If 9/10 is just cosmetics, what's the problem?

 

[HRK69]

Just because something makes money doesn’t mean it isn’t absolute garbage for consumers

But let’s be real, as long as people keep feeding the beast, the industry has zero reason to change

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Everyone knew about this for about 15 years already.

 

[Bartski]

 

[Carmen Winstead]

OP is 10 year late with his shit.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

I don't really play too many games that have them. I fall of Call of Duty before the first season of the game starts so don't really see them. Other games I just ignore them, simple.

The only weird one for me is Helldivers 2 where I feel like I kind of have to engage with that stuff if I want to unlock new weapons and stuff. Super Credits are a pain in the ass to come by too so it feels like unlocking Warbonds takes an absolute age. With that game though, I probably will buy a Warbond every now and again, it's not too egregious and I only paid £25 for the game anyway.

 

[chromhound]

One of the reasons i stopped playing video games.

 

[Ceadeus]

You're against gta5 mtx yet the only game you're interested in is gta6?

Anyway, I also dislike the importance mtx has taken over the years. Unfortunately so many people seem to find joy into buying these, maybe to help maintain their addiction. It gives a burst of dopamine

 

[Gamer79]

You're against gta5 mtx yet the only game you're interested in is gta6?

Anyway, I also dislike the importance mtx has taken over the years. Unfortunately so many people seem to find joy into buying these, maybe to help maintain their addiction. It gives a burst of dopamine

Yes single player.

 

[Gamer79]

That is the problem. It has been around for a long time but now it's getting worse. It's now called "live service"

Also, every year the game releases are getting less and less.

 

[NeverYouMind]

That is the problem. It has been around for a long time but now it's getting worse. It's now called "live service"

Also, every year the game releases are getting less and less.

I don't mind updated content that I can experience without spending a penny. Last I checked, the gacha games of the world have been around longer and the cream of the crop is still making bank with no end in sight.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Also, every year the game releases are getting less and less.

This is also because people demand more and better, drastically increasing cost and development time and if devs don't do that, people will cry about the visual quality like they do with Monster Hunter Wilds.

And live service also allows devs to expand and improve on their game after it has been released.

 

[drganon]

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

Where were you the last 2 decades ?

It's too late, brain empty children are already addicted to it.

 

[Felessan]

Games like Fortnite and Rocket league: The developers of these games have 0 reason to innovate or to make any new games. They are making so much money by just developing a new shitty outfit or dance move. Bottom line Less games

You are not very bright, are you?
If company don't innovate, someone else will and grab this cash cow for themselves. It's a very competitive market after all.

Sony: Why are there so few great releases as opposite to other generations? Sony was spending Billions chasing that DLC money with projects like Concord. When Companies get as big as Sony they always chase trends and follow where the money is going. Micro-transactions was/is their focus now.

Sony is market leader and is (and should) follow market structure. And market structure favors microtransactions even though it does mean lesser SP games.
Deal with it, it's just how life goes now.

These are just a few examples off of the top of my head but I guarantee you there are dozens or hundreds more examples. Buying Micro-transactions especially when a company is making lots of cash just give them 0 incetive to innovate or even release new games. Without all this bullshit we would of Seen GTA 6 years ago, Madden and other shitty yearly franchises would be forced to improve, we would see more yearly releases with many companies who just live off ot their older work. Micro-transactions is shit for us as Gamers. Th publishers love it because the profits are off the charts but it means shit for us.

Microtransaction is shit for old geezers who don't know how to adapt. They push them into irrelevance, sprouting tons of salty topics.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Microtransaction is shit for old geezers who don't know how to adapt. They push them into irrelevance, sprouting tons of salty topics.

Gaf in a nutshell.

 

[bender]

They are a necessary evil for certain game types like two you mentioned in Rocket League and Fortnite. I know everyone likes to think online should be free, but things like running servers and maintaining community interest costs money.

 

[Ceadeus]

Yes single player.

Ok! Yes that is what I was thinking

 

[Hollowpoint5557]

Well they certainly killed the fighting game genre for me.

Remember when Tekken came with the huge roster, multiple costumes for each character, bowling mode, the side scrolling beat-em-up mode, arcade, story, practice, multiplayer, all on one tiny disc with no downloads for one fair price? Tekken Tag Team 2 had 60(!) playable characters for god sakes.

 

[apowhungo]

the skate 4 PRE-ALPHA PLAYTEST has microtransactions, it's the first prompt to pop up in the game "WE ADDED IT SO YOU GET COMFORTABLE USING THE STORE ONCE THE GAME COMES OUT"

suck my tiny dick EA!

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

We are long past that turd, OP. The next turd we'll step in will be streaming and all-digital. Gotta catch 'em all!

 

[Magic Carpet]

Third person is the root of all Gaming Woes.
Everything wrong with the gaming industry can be boiled down to your literal view onscreen.

3rd person you must have clothing and armor on a character.
3rd person must have a gender.
3rd person must have a voice.
3rd person must have animations.

No need for microtransactions if we get rid of 3rd person

Get back to 1st person and I will only have to worry about what armor that horse is wearing.

 

[Puscifer]

If 9/10 is just cosmetics, what's the problem?

Fighting games are bad with hightligting characters you don't have.

Street Fighter is the worse of them all
Tekken
DBZ Figherz
Guilty Gear
Mortal Kombat

 

[FMX]

No one is forcing you to buy anything. 2k didn't get one dime out of me for NBA2k25 and neither did Madden 25.

 

[Gamer79]

You are not very bright, are you?
If company don't innovate, someone else will and grab this cash cow for themselves. It's a very competitive market after all.


Sony is market leader and is (and should) follow market structure. And market structure favors microtransactions even though it does mean lesser SP games.
Deal with it, it's just how life goes now.


Microtransaction is shit for old geezers who don't know how to adapt. They push them into irrelevance, sprouting tons of salty topics.

All I can say to you buddy is a big Giant Go Fuck yourself.

If this is indeed the future of games than my old geezer ass will stick to the classics and won't bend over and take it like you seem so happy to do. Thank god there are literally thousands of older games and even better less tools like you who have an independent thought. Go spend your allowance on your fortnite skin or your shiny Pink hair for Call of Duty.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I am an older gamer and I don't mind them, either buy them or don't

Heck I have even purchased many World of Tanks tanks that were 100% pay to win

I don't care how others spend their money, don't much care if people don't like how I spend mine either

 

[Icymanipulator]

My first thought was, did someone necro a thread from 2015?

My second thought was of this gif

 

[NeverYouMind]

Fighting games are bad with hightligting characters you don't have.

Street Fighter is the worse of them all
Tekken
DBZ Figherz
Guilty Gear
Mortal Kombat

Street Fighter 6 has the DLC fighter rental tickets that they give out for free though... (I still don't like Street Fighter VI)

P.S. Having to see the mug of that Final Fantasy edgelord on booting Tekken 8 always gets a scowl from me and I unfortunately own that bastard even if I keep that shitbird uninstalled.

 

[MMaRsu]

Well they certainly killed the fighting game genre for me.

Remember when Tekken came with the huge roster, multiple costumes for each character, bowling mode, the side scrolling beat-em-up mode, arcade, story, practice, multiplayer, all on one tiny disc with no downloads for one fair price? Tekken Tag Team 2 had 60(!) playable characters for god sakes.

Same

Unlocking stuff used to be a cool thing that adds replayability

Now you buy stuff

 

[Pop]

If 9/10 is just cosmetics, what's the problem?

well cause those "just cosmetics" could and should be earned in game

we all know those store cosmetics always look better than whatever is in the game

as for microtransactions, thats gamers fault. idiots keep buying them

 

[jcorb]

well cause those "just cosmetics" could and should be earned in game

we all know those store cosmetics always look better than whatever is in the game

as for microtransactions, thats gamers fault. idiots keep buying them

Exactly.

The thing is, I don't think microtransactions *HAVE* to be shitty. Having "silly" cosmetics, or collabs, as paid cosmetics is totally fine, as long as the "cool shit" is all attainable in-game.

Just doesn't seem like games always find a balance.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

well cause those "just cosmetics" could and should be earned in game

we all know those store cosmetics always look better than whatever is in the game

as for microtransactions, thats gamers fault. idiots keep buying them

Then buy them or don't.

Or quit gaming.

 

[Barakov]

It's been this way for a while. Best thing you can do is not buy them.

 

[touchfuzzy]

If the only game you're looking forward to is GTA6, you should just give up on gaming really. There's awesome games big and small being released every week, more than a normal person could ever possibly keep up with. If literally none of those interest you then gaming just isn't for you.

 

[chromhound]

 

[LordOcidax]

One and done

 

[No BBC=Anger]

It's probably never going away, and it's a generational thing but I do get cheap laughs from typical cringe shit like the ''wacky'' Rainbow Six style bunny suits, pink hair, equipping rainbow dildos or whatever. Just so lame my god.

 

[Fbh]

I honestly just don't get modern microtransactions because they stoped being "micro" a long time ago.
Like I play Rocket League enough that I'd be willing to spend a few bucks on cosmetics, but anything that looks sort of good or fun is like $20. And yeah no, I'm not spending $20 on some cosmetic item when I can get a whole game for that.

This is also because people demand more and better, drastically increasing cost and development time and if devs don't do that, people will cry about the visual quality like they do with Monster Hunter Wilds.

And live service also allows devs to expand and improve on their game after it has been released.

Exactly.
Specially in the single player space a big reason for the slowdown of releases is people want long games with ever increasing production values.
The studios that actually don't hyper focus on graphics and don't mind recycling assets, like Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio or From Software have had a pretty steady flow of games this gen.

We could be getting tons of games if people were still willing to spend $60 on a 10-20 hours game with Ps3-4 production values.

 

[ReBurn]

Are they? I can't remember the last time I felt compelled to buy something via MTX.

 

[AJUMP23]

Probably keeping a lot of people employed.

 

[Ikutachi]

The DeanBeat: This player spent $2 million in a mobile game. Then he led a boycott.

Gree, the Japanese game company that owns mobile games such as Modern War, hit the gold mine with Stephen Barnes of Houston. The 59-year-old owner of an appliance store has spent more than $2 million in Modern War, as one of the leaders of a clan that has been around for more than four years. […]

venturebeat.com

 

[JimmyRustler]

Games used to be made by around 50 people in 1-2 years and cost 60 bucks. Now they are made by 500 people in 4-5 years for 70 bucks.

How would the industry even be viable if it wasn’t for this? I’m puzzled.

Just ignore it.

 

[RoboFu]

Yeah it's bad and the worst of it aimed at kids.