bitbydeath
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I remember people getting shot for those $600 PS3s
Shot through the heart, but your too late, I sold my PS3, on eBay 
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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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Shot through the heart, but your too late, I sold my PS3, on eBay 
Bernoulli
M2 slut
Imo it's getting approved
But it's strange if the CMA accepts the Ubisoft cloud agreement. In the core it doesn't adress any concerns for the CMA and COD isn't divested
When you see from the leaks the plan is clear to use the Cloud for everything, and after the deal make everything exclusive.
But even with all that proof the FTC and CMA couldn't do anything
Schmick
Member
Wasn't the deal that required divestiture blocked?
Ginzeen
Banned
it does address the concerns. You think MS and the CMA would talk about a deal that doesn't address their concerns? We would be at the CAT if that was the case. CMA pointed MS in the right direction on what needed to be done.
CMA effectively killed that deal. So they did a lot.
FTC exposed a lot of dirt as well but the legal system was just not there to support them, they needed to prove that Microsoft had the intention to withdraw COD from other platforms and they just couldn't.
We'll see what CMA will decide about this new deal. They could accept it, they could ask for a permanent sale of the cloud streaming rights to an other company in their new preliminary findings, they could go into phase 2.
bitbydeath
Member
CMA have blocked it twice so far and MS still haven’t addressed the issues laid out in the preliminaries.
CMA blocking it again would just be par for the course.
CMA blocking it again would just be par for the course.
PaintTinJr
Member
AFAIK the process is such that they can't talk directly to the inquiry group,. just front of house CMA, which is why the CMA barrister in the CMC meeting said he couldn't pre-empt what the group would decide.
I assume the bar for procedural mechanisms to get something assessed and supported by front of house are significantly lower than the bar by which the inquiry group approve, and I suspect front of house don't actually give their opinion on a proposals likelihood of success in context of standing inquiry group recommendations, and merely advise on it being procedurally within the realms of "substantially different/special reasons" for consideration.
Ginzeen
Banned
They didn't kill anything. MS is still expected to get ABK. I mean if that makes the CMA ego feel better then by all means cool. pass the deal. Deal has a high chance of approving. FTC had better chances of the scoring the PI then the CMA blocking again. CMA the only outlier.
KingT731
Member
What if I told you nothing changed but the balance because "buy it" was literally their most successful strategy through the 360 era timed or otherwise.
Schmick
Member
The first deal was blocked by the CMA.
Ginzeen
Banned
I can't wait for your reaction when the deal clears, and your face is this
. You have a small chance of being right. Keep on hoping to the end i say! You might get your miracle.
bitbydeath
Member
CMA did the double-tap.
They killed the 2022 deal as it was.
It's a new proposal.
The rest you can say whatever you want, no one knows what's going to happen with certainty.
Ginzeen
Banned
MS is still bound to get ABK
. Keep on hoping to the end i say! you may get your miracle
bitbydeath
Member
You should re-read these when your sober.MS is still bound to get ABK
MS is still bound to get ABK
The only one pretending to know how things will go is you.
I'm open to all possible scenarios.
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PaintTinJr
Member
I'm in the same position I was before the phase 2 preliminary decision came out, where everyone said it was passing, and I pointed to a Sky news piece about ofcom contacting the CMA about competition issues in all of Cloud, and then said I believed the CMA would still block.I can't wait for your reaction when the deal clears, and your face is this
I'm not saying it is 50:50 based on heart, I'm being pragmatic. The inquiry group shouldn't be satisfied - from the pragmatic standpoint - but I can't rule out influence or desire for a cheap and easy - approved - "we won !! we got it to look like we sort of stopped them."
Ginzeen
Banned
I mean you think the FTC is still in the fight, are you the one under the influence?
Keep hoping buddy. Nothing wrong with a little hope! You got a chance! Just a small one.
Ginzeen
Banned
I just think the deal has a high chance of closing like most people. Their is still a chance of it not clearing. I been saying this. Im just confident the deal will close. Nothing more. Nothing less.
TheRedRiders
Member
Christ man, we’re trying to have a calm discussion here… but you seem to be really emotionally invested.I can't wait for your reaction when the deal clears, and your face is this
“The deal will be cleared ” was parroted by everyone and the CMA came in and blocked it, and no one saw it coming.
There’s nothing stopping that from happening again, it entirety depends on the CMA’s discretion.
Ginzeen
Banned
this is a calm discussion. Again, the deal has a high chance of closing. Their is still a small chance of failure. I said this, the whole time.....i don't have a crystal ball.
Topher
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I can't wait for your reaction when the deal clears, and your face is this
Good grief. Will you stop with this childish "can't wait to see your face" rhetoric? There is nothing wrong with people having a sober, realistic understanding that we don't know what is going to happen next. This things has turned left when a number of times already when the expectation was that it was a done deal.
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DarkBatman
SBI’s Employee of the Year
And how exactly do you come to the conclusion that there is a big high chance of closng?
Because several MS mouth pieces said so on Twitter/X?
Schmick
Member
You gonna have to explain why you think why there is a high chance... because in the past the first deal was said to have a high chance of passing but then it was blocked.
In one post you're saying "keep hoping for the miracle block" showing disrespect for every possibility other than a clear, in the next one you acknowledge the chance of it not clearing.
You also deny that CMA has killed the original deal proposal.
I have the impression you're way more invested in this than you should
Personally as I said I'm open for all scenarios, we'll find out what happens.
bitbydeath
Member
Wait til you hear about Europe as well.I mean you think the FTC is still in the fight, are you the one under the influence?
Ginzeen
Banned
The same people are constantly in this thread(you included). You can argue the same people that keep popping in here all the time are heavily invested into this. So it doesn't matter lol. Its not disrespect for saying something is a miracle if it has a low chance of succeeding.In one post you're saying "keep hoping for the miracle block" showing disrespect for every possibility other than a clear, in the next one you acknowledge the chance of it not clearing.
You also deny that CMA has killed the original deal proposal.
I have the impression you're way more invested in this than you should
Personally as I said I'm open for all scenarios, we'll find out what happens.
Who has calculated these chances and has established they're a fact?
You?
Again you're just too invested in your position and it's obvious that just reading the possibility that things won't go the way you want being discussed triggers you. That's your problem.
And again no, I said that I'm open to all possibilities, I'm not the one claiming it will take a miracle for this or that to happen.
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HoofHearted
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Ginzeen
Banned
No. The market. The analysts. The circumstantial evidence.
You're too invested as well. You're in this thread all the time. No i have said the deal can fail. Its not 100 percent certain. It doesn't trigger me.
Okay cool. I think the odds are low of failing so i says its miracle. Same thing i said during the FTC trial, when they were trying to get an injunction.
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kvltus lvlzvs
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The 360 was my personal favorite of the 7th gen (at least at the time) but now it is apparent to me that Ms lacks the ability to create and so they just want to use their riches to buy up all competition, and probably ruin every ip they buy in the process.Yeah, and it sucks too because Xbox 360 humbled PlayStation and taught Sony a lesson about their own arrogance in trying to push a $600 into the market just because they could. Think that was the point @HeisenbergFX4 was making. But now there is no keeping in check Phil Spencer getting the green light from the powers that be at MS to utilize that fat bank account and transform the console and PC market into an MS wholly owned entity.
Oh....except for regulators who some of us have been hoping will get in Microsoft's way and prevent an oncoming disaster. If I needed vindication for opposing Microsoft's acquisition ambitions (which I don't) then I can simply point to a single email from Phil Spencer who envisions buying Nintendo and chunking their Switch hardware aside, all for Spencer's personal glory.
How did he put it? It would be a "career moment".
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If you sincerely want a calm/rational discussion, then saying antagonistic things like: "I can't wait for your reaction when the deal clears, and your face is this
" Would suggest the opposite and instead that you're trolling.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I can't wait for your reaction when the deal clears, and your face is this
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
CMA decision is today?
Negotiator101
Member
Next week they'll be a preliminary judgement apparently, but who knows?
The Pleasure
Gold Member
This sounds like you and the lie that Microsoft makes great games after acquisition.MS is still bound to get ABK
supernova8
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Wait is he seriously suing people lol
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Unknown Soldier
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Microsoft’s Activision Deal Set to Clear Final UK Hurdle
Microsoft Corp.’s $69 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard Inc. looks set to clear its final regulatory hurdle after the UK competition authorities signaled they will accept the latest concessions, ending a wait of more than a year and a half to complete the biggest ever gaming deal.
www.bloomberg.com
Pack it up, boys. Gaming is finished. Well, console gaming is anyways. I play more games on mobile these days anyways so I'm good. Most of GAF don't have phones tho, so some of you guys are fucked.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
Microsoft’s Activision Deal Set to Clear Final UK Hurdle
Microsoft Corp.’s $69 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard Inc. looks set to clear its final regulatory hurdle after the UK competition authorities signaled they will accept the latest concessions, ending a wait of more than a year and a half to complete the biggest ever gaming deal.
Pack it up, boys. Gaming is finished. Well, console gaming is anyways. I play more games on mobile these days anyways so I'm good. Most of GAF don't have phones tho, so some of you guys are fucked.
XesqueVara
Member
Looks like it's a done deal.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yeah, that's where I am it.
This proposal does not meet the criterion set by the CMA in their previous Phase 2 findings. They asked for the divestment of COD and Activision, which would have been permanent. This new deal will temporarily divest cloud gaming rights to Ubisoft and then Microsoft regains 100% control after 15 years.
Having said that, it seems like this deal will be approved now.
3liteDragon
Member
Banjo64
cumsessed
No mention of the 15 year term until the footnotes.
Pathetic to see a supposed independent body so blatantly pressurised.
Daneel Elijah
Member
At least we got fun and the leaks from it.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
I’ll believe it when I see it! That being said, it would a truly remarkable action from this point for the CMA to block the deal. In the face of all the regulatory approval worldwide, them coming back to the table and agreeing to put CAT on hold with MS they really would look like the most obstructive body in the world to block it now, especially given the concessions made to appease their concerns.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
It's clear
Sarah Cardell, CEO of the CMA, said:
“The CMA’s position has been consistent throughout – this merger could only go ahead if competition, innovation, and choice in cloud gaming was preserved. In response to our original prohibition, Microsoft has now substantially restructured the deal, taking the necessary steps to address our original concerns.
“It would have been far better, though, if Microsoft had put forward this restructure during our original investigation. This case illustrates the costs, uncertainty and delay that parties can incur if a credible and effective remedy option exists but is not put on the table at the right time.”
the CMA has limited residual concerns that certain provisions in the sale of Activision’s cloud streaming rights to Ubisoft could be circumvented, terminated, or not enforced.
To address these concerns, Microsoft has offered remedies to ensure that the terms of the sale of Activision’s rights to Ubisoft are enforceable by the CMA. The CMA has provisionally concluded that this additional protection should resolve those residual concerns.
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