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[FranXico]

Gavin Stevens it's tiring, isn't it? You know that the vitriol from both sides will never stop.

 

[photogaz]

Anyone can post to pastebin so take it with a pinch of bullshit.

 

[Kobi]

Man, if bad company 3 is real, I'll be foaming at the mouth.

 

[icerock]

Crazy when you think about it.

 

[sonomamashine]

10.5 to 11.3 and upped clocks to high which results in a shit load of heat. Sound familiar...?

What are you talking about ?

 

[Agnostic2020]

I'm a third party small developer from EU,for the last 8 months i've been helping a well known company in a AAA game development that is set to release in 2020 as a lunch game for PS5.

Some infos that i'd like to share that are 99% correct(i say 99% because small incremental hardware change can occur till 2020,although specs are set in stone).

-PS5 official info from Sony somewhere around next E3(Sony will not be participating on E3),i'd say Q2 2019 small reveal
-PS5 release March 2020 or November 2020,not yet finalized
-backward compatible
-physical games & ps store
-ps plus & ps plus premium ( premium-beta early access,create private servers,
-specs CPU 7nm ryzen 8 core 16 threads,unknown speed
GPU 7nm Navi arhitecture around 14TF,its gonna be powerful and power efficient,Sony working with Amd for Navi,some sort of Ray Tracing but will not focus on that,more focus with VR and 4k,much better bandwith overall
24GB Gddr6 + 4gb ddr4 for os,we have 32 gb dev kits
-2tb hdd some sort of nand flash
-8k upscaling
-PSVR2 in 2020 also,reveal with ps5,big resolution boost probably 2560x1440,120hz,220 field of view,eye tracking,wireless,battery life 4-5 hours,headphones integrated,less motion sickenss,no breaker box,much less cable management,much more focus on VR for aaa games,price around 250$
-dualshock 5,some sort of camera inside for VR,more analog precision for fps games,something similiar to steam analog trackpad
-price 499$,100$ loss per console at a beginning

Ps4 exclusive launch games that i know of

Gran Turismo 7 (vr)
Pubg remaster 4k f2p with ps+ only on ps5
Last of us 2 remaster
Ghost of Tsushima remaster
2-3 aaa games more + psvr2 games

Non exclusive ps5 games 2020

Battlefield bad company 3
Harry potter
Gta 6 Holiday 2020 most probably,not hearing anything ps4 related (hearing that Sony is paying huge money to secure 1 month time exclusive for ps5). Been hearing rumors about Miami and New York,so 2 big cities,but im not sure if thats 100% true
Assassins creed
Horizon 2 so far in 2021

i remember this was posted December 2018 .correct?

 

[FrozenFlame]

Man, if bad company 3 is real, I'll be foaming at the mouth.

There won't be a Battlefield game in 2020.

 

[bhunachicken]

Xbox Series X will likely be the most powerful machine this generation, but with that power will come great damage to people's bank accounts.

I believe that Sony will deliver a less powerful machine, but one that will cost less and have more unique exclusives.

~11TF
16+4GB RAM
1TB SSD
£449

 

[ZywyPL]

One has to be truly naive to think/believe that Sony, who has been extremely successful in all 4 previous generation, and even pushed many of their competitors out of the market, is now in some sort of panic mode/behind schedule/has nothing to show and so on. Their consoles have always been more or less cutting edge, there's no reason to not to believe their system will be almost identical to XBX, unless they really put the 399$ first and tried to build everything around the price tag, like they did with Pro. I won't be surprised that once revealed, PS5 will put XBX into shame because of its possibilities, the raw power but also additional features. Sony simply knows what they have to do, they are the top dog for quarter of century, that's not a coincidence, they have the know-how, they know how to recover from literally everything, and that's why they're one of the most recognizable gaming brands on the planet.

 

[jackets with pockets]

i remember this was posted December 2018 .correct?

Yes: Dec 3, 2018.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Gavin Stevens it's tiring, isn't it? You know that the vitriol from both sides will never stop.

Both sides are as bad as each other. It’s embarrassing. This site has a Sony bias for sure but other sites have it the other way or whatever. I read some of this stuff and it’s pure fantasy land, like, no thought gone in to it at all. They just want the best thing ever and the competition to have the worst. They don’t for one second think about what that would do, how it would stagnate things. I’ve said it before but it’s like football fans, they just can’t imagine rooting for another team. It’s against their Very soul.

Me on the other hand, my wife would kill me if we didn’t get BOTH, day one. She is the one who made me put up the money for the two already. In her words “im not having you sit there playing whatever on Xbox and pining for the other, just get both like usual.” Of course we can’t eat for a few years, but hey, at least gaming will be fun

 

[Deleted member 775630]

Late changes? Man, the 9tf dream is years old. Sony ditched that a long time ago. That was their original plan, to release a 9tf machine sometime in 2019. But those plans changed in 2018, so they could release a faster unit in 2020. They have had a while to work on things, it’s not a last minute change. People need to let go of the 9tf stuff, it’s pure fantasy.

Late changes might have been an exaggeration, I just meant that they changes their game plan to also build a 12TF console knowing some of their other research went into differentiators for a 9TF console (years ago). The point I was trying to make was that Sony's cost for the PS5 will be higher even though the two systems will basically be on par with each other. I'm just wondering how much more different those costs will be. Enough for Microsoft to be have the advantage by $50?

 

[Darklor01]

The silence is pretty annoying now. Though Sony can not allow MS to control the message on next-gen so surely they will reveal something soon.

Sadly, Sony can do exactly that. Whatever plan they have in place, they are clearly sticking to it.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Crazy when you think about it.

Ok I’ll say it, are the two images the same
Scale?

actually impressed how small the SX is but let’s just roll.

 

[FrozenFlame]

Also, i don't get these leaks where some third party developer for some reason gets access to what games will be exclusive at launch, what online services the companies will have and so on. Like, why would Sony (or Microsoft) reveal that information to them?

 

[IkarugaDE]

i remember this was posted December 2018 .correct?

Yep. And one interesting thing I've noticed:

"dualshock 5,some sort of camera inside for VR"

Wasn't there a note in the Bloomberg article that sony cancelled a camera module?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

I'm a third party small developer from EU,for the last 8 months i've been helping a well known company in a AAA game development that is set to release in 2020 as a lunch game for PS5.

Some infos that i'd like to share that are 99% correct(i say 99% because small incremental hardware change can occur till 2020,although specs are set in stone).

-PS5 official info from Sony somewhere around next E3(Sony will not be participating on E3),i'd say Q2 2019 small reveal
-PS5 release March 2020 or November 2020,not yet finalized
-backward compatible
-physical games & ps store
-ps plus & ps plus premium ( premium-beta early access,create private servers,
-specs CPU 7nm ryzen 8 core 16 threads,unknown speed
GPU 7nm Navi arhitecture around 14TF,its gonna be powerful and power efficient,Sony working with Amd for Navi,some sort of Ray Tracing but will not focus on that,more focus with VR and 4k,much better bandwith overall
24GB Gddr6 + 4gb ddr4 for os,we have 32 gb dev kits
-2tb hdd some sort of nand flash
-8k upscaling
-PSVR2 in 2020 also,reveal with ps5,big resolution boost probably 2560x1440,120hz,220 field of view,eye tracking,wireless,battery life 4-5 hours,headphones integrated,less motion sickenss,no breaker box,much less cable management,much more focus on VR for aaa games,price around 250$
-dualshock 5,some sort of camera inside for VR,more analog precision for fps games,something similiar to steam analog trackpad
-price 499$,100$ loss per console at a beginning

Ps4 exclusive launch games that i know of

Gran Turismo 7 (vr)
Pubg remaster 4k f2p with ps+ only on ps5
Last of us 2 remaster
Ghost of Tsushima remaster
2-3 aaa games more + psvr2 games

Non exclusive ps5 games 2020

Battlefield bad company 3
Harry potter
Gta 6 Holiday 2020 most probably,not hearing anything ps4 related (hearing that Sony is paying huge money to secure 1 month time exclusive for ps5). Been hearing rumors about Miami and New York,so 2 big cities,but im not sure if thats 100% true
Assassins creed
Horizon 2 so far in 2021

I actually know a first party developer who doesn’t have even 10% of that info, yet this paste bin leaked knows the full spec, the launch price, launch date, vr details and even just for kicks some new deals that only top level executives make.

Can ya’ see the problems here...?

Also 14tf, shit, by next Tuesday the PS5 will be a fully sentient AI hell bent on world domination.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

More and more I see here that 12 tf by microsoft is perfectly possible and without problems but 11/12/13 tf by sony is impossible and absurd, even when all insiders are talking about equality.
Take care to listen to highly paid PR disguised in the community rather than those who have real internal contacts.

There was a user by the name of Microsoft Chad who would make several alts to push Xbox propaganda. And this was before Era existed, so every time he made a new account, he used a different paid email address. He came back to GAF after the split as Microsofts Hunert Smoke and got banned for astroturfing.

 

[Fulcizombie]

One has to be truly naive to think/believe that Sony, who has been extremely successful in all 4 previous generation, and even pushed many of their competitors out of the market, is now in some sort of panic mode/behind schedule/has nothing to show and so on. Their consoles have always been more or less cutting edge, there's no reason to not to believe their system will be almost identical to XBX, unless they really put the 399$ first and tried to build everything around the price tag, like they did with Pro. I won't be surprised that once revealed, PS5 will put XBX into shame because of its possibilities, the raw power but also additional features. Sony simply knows what they have to do, they are the top dog for quarter of century, that's not a coincidence, they have the know-how, they know how to recover from literally everything, and that's why they're one of the most recognizable gaming brands on the planet.

The only Sony console that was cutting edge was the fist PlayStation with its dedicated 3D graphics chip. The ps2 was cutting edge in delivering games with awful image quality, the ps3 was weaker than the xbox360 and was released a year later, the ps4 was anything but cutting edge (a run of the mill console design) which seemed «cutting edge» next to the fuck up that was the Xbox one and the ps4pro was as conservative as it could be in everything.

Meanwhile the first Xbox set the trends that we would see with the next generations of consoles to come (standard Hd, pc-like architecture, super powerful Gpu, broadband multiplayer), the xbox360 had a Gpu with new features even compared to what was available in the pc graphics cards at that time and the Xbox one x managed to be a beast in a relatively compact form while being ultra silent.

Now we are back to Microsoft being the traditional Microsoft , which means that their consoles are synonymous with power. Let’s see what the ps5 will have under its hood and what «unique» features it will have. I make a prediction, we will have lots of secret sauce and other bullshit once Sony finally reveals some of the ps5 specs. Phil Spencer told the MS hardware team «Make the most powerful console you can without having the traditional console form factor in mind» , let’s wait and see if Sony did the same.

 

[deccangamer]

My money is on, Sony realizing that it has a weaker console. Vying to get a "value for money" tag, trying to shuffle components, struggling to get the "low price" it wants.

There was a recent article on ps5 manufacturing cost to be around 450$. So if we assume that console makers will take a loss on distribution, marketing and retailer cut. Can it not be that sony was targetting 400$ ??

It also means Xbox Series X will cost a lot more than 500$. and Lockhart version will also be released.

 

[Mr Moose]

The only Sony console that was cutting edge was the fist PlayStation with its dedicated 3D graphics chip. The ps2 was cutting edge in delivering games with awful image quality, the ps3 was weaker than the xbox360 and was released a year later, the ps4 was anything but cutting edge (a run of the mill console design) which seemed «cutting edge» next to the fuck up that was the Xbox one and the ps4pro was as conservative as it could be in everything.

Meanwhile the first Xbox set the trends that we would see with the next generations of consoles to come (standard Hd, pc-like architecture, super powerful Gpu, broadband multiplayer), the xbox360 had a Gpu with new features even compared to what was available in the pc graphics cards at that time and the Xbox one x managed to be a beast in a relatively compact form while being ultra silent.

Now we are back to Microsoft being the traditional Microsoft , which means that their consoles are synonymous with power. Let’s see what the ps5 will have under its hood and what «unique» features it will have. I make a prediction, we will have lots of secret sauce and other bullshit once Sony finally reveals some of the ps5 specs. Phil Spencer told the MS hardware team «Make the most powerful console you can without having the traditional console form factor in mind» , let’s wait and see if Sony did the same.

PS3 had cutting edge blu-ray.

 

[saintjules]

I first started gaming playing games that looked like the ones below (and I loved them) so to me, what you are posting is mind blowing and kids don't know how good they have it!

Haha, been on the NES since 1989, so I got a bit of that old taste. Super Dodge Ball for the win btw!

 

[Gamernyc78]

There was a user by the name of Microsoft Chad who would make several alts to push Xbox propaganda. And this was before Era existed, so every time he made a new account, he used a different paid email address. He came back to GAF after the split as Microsofts Hunert Smoke and got banned for astroturfing.

This type of stuff happens more often than not. Ppl are naive to think corporations don't have ppl on payroll to spew propoganda and confusion lol you know the same corps tht lied initially about rrod being an issue, faked videos of the preciseness of their motion control add on, etc

 

[DrDamn]

Yep. And one interesting thing I've noticed:

"dualshock 5,some sort of camera inside for VR"

Wasn't there a note in the Bloomberg article that sony cancelled a camera module?

That was related to a camera in the Sony consumer range - not related to PlayStation.

 

[Gamernyc78]

PS3 had cutting edge blu-ray.

PS3 not only had tht but was the only console to offer full Dolby 7.1 surround sound, true 3D, web browser, etc...

 

[Kumomeme]

So, @SenjutsuSage you said that Klee is full of shit.



So, any nice words for Hmqgg, an Xbox insider, who said that XSX is not RDNA 2?

funny though..i take any word from this guy who said klee is shit, is shit itself...this the person who said mark cerny is a liar, despite cerny itself multiple time confirming existance of raytracing and yet he keep coming said it lie, twisting word, refuse to hear other opinions and even refusing official fact before get banned at other site and later throw tantrum at twitter.....immediately trust whatever ms/phil said but not to cerny or even man who actually used to be part of industry which is klee. No offense, but the other site thread is much better once he gone and here he is, again with his typical emotional lengthly essay.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Yep. And one interesting thing I've noticed:

"dualshock 5,some sort of camera inside for VR"

Wasn't there a note in the Bloomberg article that sony cancelled a camera module?

yea but thats due to NAND and DRAM hat the camera uses. so they want PS5 to use those so they dont have shortages for PS5. nothing to do with camera itself.

 

[sonomamashine]

7Tf is needed for gaming at 4k, 9Tf is what you need for a steady 4k60fps, that's why they clocked it at 2Ghz, Ps5 is more than that.

 

[Fulcizombie]

PS3 had cutting edge blu-ray.

And both Xbox one s and Xbox one x have cutting edge 4k disk drive that Sony didn’t even bother to put in the pro. Ps2 has cutting edge DVD player, for its time. I am talking about gaming-related cutting edge stuff.

 

[Agnostic2020]

7Tf is needed for gaming at 4k, 9Tf is what you need for a steady 4k60fps, that's why they clocked it at 2Ghz, Ps5 is more than that.

u r not letting go of 9 tf PS5 ? lol

 

[Fulcizombie]

PS3 not only had tht but was the only console to offer full Dolby 7.1 surround sound, true 3D, web browser, etc...

Because things like web browser really made a mark in console gaming. True 3D, a dead technology already. (Are 3D tvs still being made ?).

 

[sonomamashine]

u r not letting go of 9 tf PS5 ? lol

Im saying Ps5 is more than that 9tf leak.
Lol what are you reading.

 

[MilkyJoe]

God I swear some of you are really hard to handle. A TF is a TF no matter the architecture. The console is 12 TF. And now confirmed that it is RDNA 2.0.

12TF is twice the TF of XBX. However, in actual performance it is higher because the efficiency of RDNA means the same TF deliver higher performance.

This was not an asterik 12TF equivalent in GCN.

Some of you need to just stop. I mean what the hell else do you all need?

Think he needs a dummy

 

[ANIMAL1975]

Yep. And one interesting thing I've noticed:

"dualshock 5,some sort of camera inside for VR"

Wasn't there a note in the Bloomberg article that sony cancelled a camera module?

Yes, but im pretty much sure they were talking about their actual camera business. As for the ds5 camera built in, i think that it's a misinterpretation of the the original rumor that, if my memory doesn't fail, talked about IR image sensors (that Sony produces for their cameras and third customers), and somehow extrapolated to camera sensors and built-in cameras on the DS5.

 

[Neo Blaster]

PS3 had cutting edge blu-ray.

And don't forget PS2 was the first with a DVD drive.

 

[Fatal Enigma]

I've only recently started posting but would be nice to see "insiders" post in one place what they see PS5 coming in at with teraflop counts. Lets see your insider knowledge in an easy repository to look back on after official details... If this already exists, please link me....thx

heisenberg (xx TF)
fisher (xx TF)
osiris (xx TF)
vfx (xx TF)
bgs (xx TF)

Am I missing anyone?

 

[M-V2]

MS = The ultimate genius they can do anything. (12,16,50tf) is possible to MS

Sony = The rat in hole, they are afraid they have no confidence in their product. (10, 11, 12) is impossible they have heating issue.

I mean just go & be the lead architecture instead of Mark Cerny let's see how you handle things instead of spreading your BS here.

 

[Neo Blaster]

And both Xbox one s and Xbox one x have cutting edge 4k disk drive that Sony didn’t even bother to put in the pro. Ps2 has cutting edge DVD player, for its time. I am talking about gaming-related cutting edge stuff.

Gotta love this selectiveness...and cool to have a 4k disk drive, but Sony opted it out to avoid compromising price for a resource very few used(4k Blu-ray is niche in these streaming times). They're using it now because game size.

 

[Agnostic2020]

I've only recently started posting but would be nice to see "insiders" post in one place what they see PS5 coming in at with teraflop counts. Lets see your insider knowledge in an easy repository to look back on after official details... If this already exists, please link me....thx

heisenberg (xx TF)
fisher (xx TF)
osiris (xx TF)
vfx (xx TF)
bgs (xx TF)

Am I missing anyone?

heisenberg (11-12TF for both with XSX leading very small)
fisher (12 TF XSX ,13 TF PS5)
osiris (11.8 TF XSX and 12.4 TF ps5)
vfx (changes his view nonstop he said both are 1080 level but he keeps changing as soon as a news come up so disregard him )
bgs (doesnt say it and randomly says 13.8 and then says 13.8 is imaginary number he just says its not 9 Vs 12)
Klee(12TF RDNA XSX and slightly above PS5)
Jason(both extremely close and both above 10.7 TF)

 

[Fatal Enigma]

heisenberg (11-12TF for both with XSX leading very small)
fisher (12 TF XSX ,13 TF PS5)
osiris (11.8 TF XSX and 12.4 TF ps5)
vfx (changes his view nonstop he said both are 1080 level but he keeps changing so disregard him)
bgs (doesnt say it and randomly says 13.8 and then says 13.8 is imaginary number lol)

We know xsx number now (confirmed) Just looking for ps5
Im looking for these guys to pony up with a number since they portray as insiders (btw, not saying they are not)
Just want easy data from them at this point in time
Should be a simple thing for an insider with anonymity to drop

 

[Mendou]

I'm a third party small developer from EU,for the last 8 months i've been helping a well known company in a AAA game development that is set to release in 2020 as a lunch game for PS5.

Some infos that i'd like to share that are 99% correct(i say 99% because small incremental hardware change can occur till 2020,although specs are set in stone).

-PS5 official info from Sony somewhere around next E3(Sony will not be participating on E3),i'd say Q2 2019 small reveal
-PS5 release March 2020 or November 2020,not yet finalized
-backward compatible
-physical games & ps store
-ps plus & ps plus premium ( premium-beta early access,create private servers,
-specs CPU 7nm ryzen 8 core 16 threads,unknown speed
GPU 7nm Navi arhitecture around 14TF,its gonna be powerful and power efficient,Sony working with Amd for Navi,some sort of Ray Tracing but will not focus on that,more focus with VR and 4k,much better bandwith overall
24GB Gddr6 + 4gb ddr4 for os,we have 32 gb dev kits
-2tb hdd some sort of nand flash
-8k upscaling
-PSVR2 in 2020 also,reveal with ps5,big resolution boost probably 2560x1440,120hz,220 field of view,eye tracking,wireless,battery life 4-5 hours,headphones integrated,less motion sickenss,no breaker box,much less cable management,much more focus on VR for aaa games,price around 250$
-dualshock 5,some sort of camera inside for VR,more analog precision for fps games,something similiar to steam analog trackpad
-price 499$,100$ loss per console at a beginning

Ps4 exclusive launch games that i know of

Gran Turismo 7 (vr)
Pubg remaster 4k f2p with ps+ only on ps5
Last of us 2 remaster
Ghost of Tsushima remaster
2-3 aaa games more + psvr2 games

Non exclusive ps5 games 2020

Battlefield bad company 3
Harry potter
Gta 6 Holiday 2020 most probably,not hearing anything ps4 related (hearing that Sony is paying huge money to secure 1 month time exclusive for ps5). Been hearing rumors about Miami and New York,so 2 big cities,but im not sure if thats 100% true
Assassins creed
Horizon 2 so far in 2021

14tf?
Sold for $500?
$100 loss on each console?

The Bloomberg article stated that the BOM is $450. A real game developer wouldn't know the retail price of the system and Sony isn't going to lose $100 when the BOM is $450 and they sell it for $500. The Pastebin you linked is fake. Don't believe it, but thanks for sharing nonetheless.

 

[Shio]

or github is BC regression test with boost mode being 2ghz at 36 cu and disabling rest of CU . so they didnt need to be in the test. so basically ps5 is 9 tf in BC boost mode

This would make sense. Mark Cerny stated that 8tf would be needed for 4k (PS4 graphics complexity) so if PS5 wanted to run PS4 games in back compat mode at 4k then 9tf would be around that figure (also the 36 CUs match the PS4 PRO). Them trying to reach 2Ghz with this setup might be them trying to get close to the 2.1Ghz CPU speed of the PS4 pro for back compat.

 

[deccangamer]

M-V2 MS will not place a console in the same price segment as Sony, if playstation brand gets momentum xbox will be doomed again. (maybe) MS has done the wise decision and created a premium and a cheaper segment. It's ABC of business management.

If the dev kits are so numerous, there would be numerous identical (accurate to the decimal) leaks.

 

[LED Guy?]

heisenberg (11-12TF for both with XSX leading very small)
fisher (12 TF XSX ,13 TF PS5)
osiris (11.8 TF XSX and 12.4 TF ps5)
vfx (changes his view nonstop he said both are 1080 level but he keeps changing so disregard him)
bgs (doesnt say it and randomly says 13.8 and then says 13.8 is imaginary number lol he just says its not 9 Vs 12)

Let’s add Andrew Reiner from Game Inforner who said PS5 is more powerful in the GPU Flops than XSX.

Kleegamefan (Xbox fanboys’ #1 target) said both are double digits and PS5 is a bit more powerful than XSX in GPU Flops before anyone else.

Jason Schreier said both are more powerful than RTX 2080.

Edited:

 

[Fulcizombie]

Gotta love this selectiveness...and cool to have a 4k disk drive, but Sony opted it out to avoid compromising price for a resource very few used(4k Blu-ray is niche in these streaming times). They're using it now because game size.

No selectiveness, in my original post I never mentioned the type of media as a revolutionary feature, someone else did that so I just replied to him. Oh and yeah Sony is always right, they were right when they cheapened their «4k» console, that did absolutely nothing in 4k, but now of course they are right again because game sizes.

 

[ethomaz]

Crazy when you think about it.

That is probably one of the dumbest comparisons he already did.

IBM ASCII White 12TFs is about CPU processing only and for it pourpose it is extreme, vastly, ultra, superior to the power of Xbox One Series X.

Plus it is way dated... ancient... today IBM have way more powerful servers for the same purpose.

BTW this cluster has 512 servers with 6 CPUs POWER3-II running at 375Mhz each.

 

[Kobi]

heisenberg (11-12TF for both with XSX leading very small)
fisher (12 TF XSX ,13 TF PS5)
osiris (11.8 TF XSX and 12.4 TF ps5)
vfx (changes his view nonstop he said both are 1080 level but he keeps changing so disregard him)
bgs (doesnt say it and randomly says 13.8 and then says 13.8 is imaginary number he just says its not 9 Vs 12)

And these are just for the Dev kits. All of them are right to some degree. But none of them are the final retail version. Technically none of them can be wrong because the specs change so often.

We know for a fact that the Xbox is 12. So it's now trying to figure out where In between 11-13 will Sony land. Looks like 12 too.

 

[Old Empire.]

One has to be truly naive to think/believe that Sony, who has been extremely successful in all 4 previous generation, and even pushed many of their competitors out of the market, is now in some sort of panic mode/behind schedule/has nothing to show and so on. Their consoles have always been more or less cutting edge, there's no reason to not to believe their system will be almost identical to XBX, unless they really put the 399$ first and tried to build everything around the price tag, like they did with Pro. I won't be surprised that once revealed, PS5 will put XBX into shame because of its possibilities, the raw power but also additional features. Sony simply knows what they have to do, they are the top dog for quarter of century, that's not a coincidence, they have the know-how, they know how to recover from literally everything, and that's why they're one of the most recognizable gaming brands on the planet.

It’s a bit different Sony merely shown a PS5 logo and console 9 months out from launching at retail. Microsoft shown their package/ box and most of the specs of the machine already known

Sony offered us nothing, and with the rumor PS5 has lower teraflops, you have to wonder did just go for 2x the power of the pro?

Custom RDNA 2 GPU may have unsettled Sony? The PS5 GPU maybe a RDNA 1 with less compute units? Its speculation, but Sony silence could be problem or them trying to upgrade the machine?

 

[Agnostic2020]

We know xsx number now (confirmed) Just looking for ps5
Im looking for these guys to pony up with a number since they portray as insiders (btw, not saying they are not)
Just want easy data from them at this point in time
Should be a simple thing for an insider with anonymity to drop

i updated it for you so we keep a track of them all

 

[Fulcizombie]

Oof! You DESTROYED him!!

Let’s add Andrew Reiner from Game Inforner who said PS5 is more powerful in the GPU Flops than XSX.

Kleegamefan (Xbox fanboys’ #1 target) said both are double digits and PS5 is a bit more powerful than XSX in GPU Flops.

Jason Schreier said both are more powerful than RTX 2080.

Yeah he destroyed him with sources like ..Tommy fisher (), Osiris black (who got everything,,,,right, and by right I mean wrong, during the pro/Xbox one x period), Kleegamefan (a guy who was writing for gamefan and anyone that is old enough to remember gamefan remembers how.....ahem let’s put it gently and say very enthusiastic they were about everything and how many times they were proven wrong) who was saying that he will be back in February for Sony’s grand unveiling (but hey plans change) and Reiner who has posted absolutely nothing about the consoles for ages.

Can’t wait for Sony to FINALLY reveal ps5 specs cause yeah now they have TLOU2 and Ff remake to focus on while during the ps3’ final months they didn’t have......TLOU a new GOW title and GT6 to focus on.