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[icy121]

source ?

This was making the rounds a few weeks ago (on Twitter I believe), where one user said, "This was just pulled from the official Xbox website."

I was wondering if anyone could corroborate whether it came from the Xbox website or not.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

It would be boring.




Unconventional in the console world, sure. The design of the xsx is pretty damn smart and cheap, and that's really all it is. By getting rid of the console look you free yourself from the constraints that go with it.
If we look at the pube leak, we can tell "uninterrupted inbound airflow" should be a concern.

How would it be a concern? It pulls air in from the bottom and the back.

 

[Farrell55]

Dude, you went from consoles cannot be more than 8TF Rdna ever to PS5 is 9.2 Best case with RT, Xbox can be 12 because TOWER to I don't care about consoles I'm PC

All I want from you is not to dissapear when PS5 is finally revealed.

Yeah right he spreading so much BS
Very soon he gets exposed

 

[Disco_]

How would it be a concern? It pulls air in from the bottom and the back.

Because the back is almost entirely obstructed and the bottom doesn't have proper clearance to pull in air at respectable velocity, especially since it's a single, low speed 140mm fan.

Plans changed due to Coronavirus. Are you going to call everyone else liars that said they were going to GDC and now suddenly nobody is?

Not giving any insider credibility but all those people that told me MWC and GDC were happening in February/march=liars liars pants on fires.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Because the back is almost entirely obstructed and the bottom doesn't have proper clearance to pull in air at respectable velocity, especially since it's a single, low speed 140mm fan.

Clearly it does because it operates as quiet as an Xbox One X so this is a totally bunk hot take.

 

[Hobbygaming]

We already discussed that before... which advantage give Sony to deny these made up rumors?

They are market leader, have the support from the gamers, etc... they just need to reveal the PS5 and boom everybody will hype and talk about it.

It is only focused hardcore forum that feels amused with Sony silent.

That's true. I have a feeling Sony is lining up a kill shot. I wonder which exclusives they'll choose for the PS5 reveal

 

[Neo Blaster]

AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed

AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.

www.techquila.co.in

RDNA2 and RT for both next gen consoles, said AMD dude on january, they claim. I hope this "ps5 will not have rt / rdna2" nonsense ends

"
AMD AS A COMPANY…STRONGLY BELIEVES IN THE VALUE AND CAPABILITY OF RAYTRACING. RDNA 2, THE NEXT-GEN, WILL SUPPORT RAYTRACING. BOTH THE NEXT-GEN XBOX AND PLAYSTATION WILL SUPPORT HARDWARE RAYTRACING WITH RADEON NATIVELY. WE WILL BE SURE TO HAVE THE CONTENT THAT GAMERS CAN ACTUALLY USE TO RUN ON THOSE GPUS


WE BELIEVE IN OUR RAYTRACING, AND WE WILL HAVE IT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.

Mithun Chandrashekhar, Product Management Lead, AMD "

That's it, directly from the lion's mouth, what else do the XDF need to finally agree about RT/RDNA2 on PS5?

 

[Gudji]

So that's not confirmation but 9TF is? I give up. I'm going to go spend some money, get outside, anything besides be reminded of how crazy this all is. It states it from AMD. RDNA 2. Both consoles. Have a good day man

That's not what I meant. It's not confirmation because it's not put in an official document or info coming directly from Sony, just that.
For instance MS said it would be RDNA2 in their own website. I'm still sure PS5 is RDNA2.

 

[JLMC469]

That's true. I have a feeling Sony is lining up a kill shot. I wonder which exclusives they'll choose for the PS5 reveal

The hyperboles in this thread are amazing.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

That's it, directly from the lion's mouth, what else do the XDF need to finally agree about RT/RDNA2 on PS5?

Nothing in that states the PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.

 

[TLZ]

In order for the PS5 to be 13.3 is as follows..... 64×2×52×2 = 13.3tfs

Going by Tommy Fisher leak of 52 CU's at 2ghz...

That screen capture only states a clock of 1.7ghz substituting 52 with 60 and 2ghz with 1.7ghz gives a tf under 13.3 (13.056tfs)

Man. All you have to do is add a mere 0.04 to 1.7 and you'll get 13.3. it's not that hard :/

 

[SSfox]

Nothing in that states the PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.

AMD as a company…strongly believes in the value and capability of raytracing. RDNA 2, the next-gen, will support raytracing. Both the next-gen Xbox and PlayStation will support hardware raytracing with Radeon natively. We will be sure to have the content that gamers can actually use to run on those GPUs

We believe in our raytracing, and we will have it when the time is right.

 

[Neo Blaster]

Nothing in that states the PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.

 

[Disco_]

AMD as a company…strongly believes in the value and capability of raytracing. RDNA 2, the next-gen, will support raytracing. Both the next-gen Xbox and PlayStation will support hardware raytracing with Radeon natively. We will be sure to have the content that gamers can actually use to run on those GPUs

We believe in our raytracing, and we will have it when the time is right.

Use smaller words and write really really slowly.

 

[Hobbygaming]

The hyperboles in this thread are amazing.

I'm just figuratively speaking when I say kill shot. I'm just saying that they'll show some big games and be ahead as far as impressions and mindshare go

 

[DynamiteCop!]

AMD as a company…strongly believes in the value and capability of raytracing. RDNA 2, the next-gen, will support raytracing. Both the next-gen Xbox and PlayStation will support hardware raytracing with Radeon natively. We will be sure to have the content that gamers can actually use to run on those GPUs

We believe in our raytracing, and we will have it when the time is right.

You're seeing what you want to see.

All it says is the next-gen will support RDNA 2 and both Xbox and PlayStation will support RT. Xbox is RDNA 2 so that statement alone is accurate and can apply to only their system, but it doesn't mean the PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.

You're slipping.

 

[RookX22]

Here we go. Maybe sony renting azure servers will allow them to use the power of the cloud and bridge the 9.2 to 12 tf gap./s

 

[JediMind]

You're seeing what you want to see.

All it says is the next-gen will support RDNA 2 and both Xbox and PlayStation will support RT. Xbox is RDNA 2 so that statement alone is accurate and can apply to only their system, but it doesn't mean the PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.

You're slipping.

With Radeon natively. Can't you read? Just stop it. You people...

 

[SSfox]

Use smaller words and write really really slowly.

I just copy/paste.

You're seeing what you want to see.

All it says is the next-gen will support RDNA 2 and both Xbox and PlayStation will support RT. Xbox is RDNA 2 so that statement alone is accurate and can apply to only their system, but it doesn't mean the PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.

You're slipping.

I get what you mean. Tho only RDNA2 supporte RT natively, so.

 

[Moridianae]

Oh boy, guys.

 

[bitbydeath]

RDNA 2, the next-gen, Both the next-gen Xbox and PlayStation

Now with less words.
Once again AMD already confirmed RDNA2 is required for RT.

We were previously questioning if Next Gen RDNA = RDNA2 and we have since received our answer that they are one in the same.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

With Radeon natively. Can't you read? Just stop it. You people...

I can read fine, you looney tunes are trying to read into more than is being said.

The PS5 could be a 1.0/2.0 hybrid, it could be based from the 5700 XT with RT adapted to it, no one knows. This isn't confirmation of anything, stop being so obtuse like you don't clearly understand this.

 

[ethomaz]

You're seeing what you want to see.

All it says is the next-gen will support RDNA 2 and both Xbox and PlayStation will support RT. Xbox is RDNA 2 so that statement alone is accurate and can apply to only their system, but it doesn't mean the PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.

You're slipping.

You never learn... seems like you like to be wrong with your posts all the time

 

[Insiderus]

GitHub believers could start to feel ashamed now.

AMD confirmed again both APUs is based in RDNA 2 and has hardware RT.

PS. I did wish it could be “secret” until PS5 reveal to be entertained by these jokers lol

Here is all Tommy Fisher leaks about PS5 and XSX :-


XseX - 12.1 RDNA 2.0 Flops
PS5 - 13.3 RDNA 2.0 Flops

You read it first here folks

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52 active CUs at 2.0Ghz ~ 13.3TFlops
PS5

52 active CUs at 1.82Ghz ~ 12.1TFlops
XseX

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Good luck with that believe it or not, these are the actual specifications for both XseX and PS5 GPUs.

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A Little less (0.2) than XseX CPU clock speed.

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I know the full specifications of both PS5 and XX, Can you give us a glimpse of what kind of memory gonna be in PS5?

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Just tell me one thing, did your source tell you anything about the amount of Memory in PS5? will it be higher than 16GB? )

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CameFromNearFuture said: (BOTH Will be equivalent on Ray tracing aspect)
Tommy Fisher : You know nothing

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7nm+/EUV - TSMC's InFo-MS.

After AMD confirmed RDNA2 for both next gen consoles , here what he got them right so far:

XSX is 12 TF ✔
XSX RDNA2 (7nm+) ✔
PS5 has faster SSD ✔
PS5 RDNA2 (7nm+) ✔

 

[Reindeer]

You're seeing what you want to see.

All it says is the next-gen will support RDNA 2 and both Xbox and PlayStation will support RT. Xbox is RDNA 2 so that statement alone is accurate and can apply to only their system, but it doesn't mean the PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.

You're slipping.

It does say that RDNA2 will support Ray Tracing and then mentions that PS5 will have Ray Tracing, so that obviously mean that PS5 has to have RDNA2 if it's to have Ray Tracing. We already know that GPU will have Ray Tracing as Cerny said and you can't have Ray Tracing in GPU without RDNA2.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

It does say that RDNA2 will support Ray Tracing and then mentions that PS5 will have Ray Tracing, so that obviously mean that PS5 has to have RDNA2 if it's to have Ray Tracing. We already know that GPU will have Ray Tracing as Cerny said and you can't have Ray Tracing in GPU without RDNA2.

Try to keep up champion.

Now with less words.
Once again AMD already confirmed RDNA2 is required for RT.

We were previously questioning if Next Gen RDNA = RDNA2 and we have since received our answer that they are one in the same.

Yeah just like the PlayStation 4 Pro and Xbox One X are Polaris yet one has Vega RPM and the other has Vega DCC... Right... Never been done before.

You geniuses have absolutely lost the plot.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Not gonna lie, there’s been a lot of buzz
About 13tf, and even I can’t ignore it all. I still think it’s a fake following another fake and then a snow ball effect but whatever.

I’m still team 10.5-11.5 with it being on the upper end of that, 11.5 or so. I have no reason to doubt it.

p.s. fuck the github leak.

 

[Gudji]

It does say that RDNA2 will support Ray Tracing and then mentions that PS5 will have Ray Tracing, so that obviously mean that PS5 has to have RDNA2 if it's to have Ray Tracing. We already know that GPU will have Ray Tracing as Cerny said and you can't have Ray Tracing in GPU without RDNA2.

Seriously, it can't be more obvious than this.

It's almost like people have been saying the same things all along: both are similar, both are close in performance.
Somehow there's still guys that think XSX will have a huge difference in tech and specs even at identical BOMs. Get real folks.

 

[bitbydeath]

Yeah just like the PlayStation 4 Pro and Xbox One X are Polaris yet one has Vega RPM and the other has Vega DCC... Right... Never been done before.

You geniuses have absolutely lost the plot.

So you’re stating AMD is lying because wishful thinking?

 

[Mod of War]

Try to keep up champion.

Yeah just like the PlayStation 4 Pro and Xbox One X are Polaris yet one has Vega RPM and the other has Vega DCC... Right... Never been done before.

You geniuses have absolutely lost the plot.

You know, we allow you back in and you go right to petty insults in multiple posts already.

Again, you have nobody to blame but yourself if you’re removed from the thread again.

 

[Disco_]

I get what you mean. Tho only RDNA2 supporte RT natively, so.

Which probably means nothing to clients working with the semi-custom division of AMD.

After AMD confirmed RDNA2 for both next gen consoles , here what he got them right so far:


XSX RDNA2 (7nm+) ✔

PS5 RDNA2 (7nm+) ✔

Unfortunately this isn't confirmed, the 400mm2 die of xsx almost confirms it isn't. Yes, the rdna2/7nm slide exists,

but that's in terms of AMD's desktop GPU products. Rdna2 is not tied to 7nm+, none of the architectures are tied to a node. AMD could make rdna2 on 7nm which would make it easier for them as ZEN2 is on 7nm and 7nm masks/libraries are incompatible with EUV(7nm+)

 

[MARTYWOLF]

Surely this month we will get new info

 

[DynamiteCop!]

So you’re stating AMD is lying because wishful thinking?

I'm stating that AMD has a history (recent history in both Sony and MS's latest machines) of incorporating advanced architectural features from the next-generation of hardware into the existing. There's been no actual confirmation that the PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.0, just a lot of vagaries like "The next-generation will have RDNA 2.0 and RT" which could apply to both, one or be a mixture of the two, it's not clear.

The PlayStation 5 could easily be an RDNA 1.0 device with a 2.0 feature i.e. RT incorporated into its design. This would get them somewhat close to Microsoft's spec and be a major cost cutting measure. Without direct confirmation that says "The PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.0" in one fashion or another; it's still as vague as its ever been.

You know, we allow you back in and you go right to petty insults in multiple posts already.

Again, you have nobody to blame but yourself if you’re removed from the thread again.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

 

[Reindeer]

Surely this month we will get new info

Just don't bet your PS4 on it.

 

[RookX22]

There is really no point in arguing one way or the other soony the specs will be released then we will know, but then we still can argue one way or the other since you can interpret things people say differently. The only way to be certain is to wait until release and system tear downs and benchmark side by side impressions, but still they can be falsified and tampered so you can argue for or against. So what I am saying is, it doesnt matter. People well have favorites and opinions doubts and theories. Just buy thing you like and that your friends are on and just put blinders on ignorance is bliss.

 

[SgtCaffran]

Try to keep up champion.

Yeah just like the PlayStation 4 Pro and Xbox One X are Polaris yet one has Vega RPM and the other has Vega DCC... Right... Never been done before.

You geniuses have absolutely lost the plot.

I'd like to give it a go as well, if you let me:

- "Both the next-gen Xbox and PlayStation will support hardware raytracing with Radeon natively "
- Hardware raytracing is a key RDNA2 feature, together with VRS
- XsX is confirmed to have hardware raytracing, VRS and RDNA2
- PS5 is confirmed to have hardware raytracing and is rumored to have VRS and RDNA2
- Considering the above, it appears likely that PS5 has RDNA2

If the argument is that PS5 will be RDNA1 with added RT and VRS.... then you're simply describing RDNA2. The simplest answer is usually the right one. (Occam's razor).

 

[Koopatrol]

p.s. fuck the github leak.

 

[DaMonsta]

@JAMMA @R600 D DaMonsta @darkinstinct

GitHub...

What does any of this have to do with me?

 

[DynamiteCop!]

I'd like to give it a go as well, if you let me:

- "Both the next-gen Xbox and PlayStation will support hardware raytracing with Radeon natively "
- Hardware raytracing is a key RDNA2 feature, together with VRS
- XsX is confirmed to have hardware raytracing, VRS and RDNA2
- PS5 is confirmed to have hardware raytracing and is rumored to have VRS and RDNA2
- Considering the above, it appears likely that PS5 has RDNA2

If the argument is that PS5 will be RDNA1 with added RT and VRS.... then you're simply describing RDNA2. The simplest answer is usually the right one. (Occam's razor).

We don't even know what RDNA 2.0 actually is or its entire scope of benefits and features so to say added RT and VRS is the scope of what 2.0 will do is wholly dishonest.

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

You're seeing what you want to see.

All it says is the next-gen will support RDNA 2 and both Xbox and PlayStation will support RT. Xbox is RDNA 2 so that statement alone is accurate and can apply to only their system, but it doesn't mean the PlayStation 5 is RDNA 2.

You're slipping.

And you need to wake up

 

[DynamiteCop!]

And you need to wake up

I'm very awake, I don't take speculative vagaries and reading into what's being said more than is there as some kind of definitive answer to a question, because it's not.

 

[44alltheway]

Surely this month we will get new info

Don’t bet your account on it... Oh wait! Someone did that and they’re still here!

 

[pasterpl]

Lol. Xbox is a fraction of PS here in Brazil.

isn’t everyone saying that “global” domination is the measure? We can pickup countries randomly but the totals are always more accurate.

 

[HonkingTonk]

A significant portion of posters in this thread are gonna look like retard after the PS5 reveal:

either
(1) PS5 is much more powerful than XSX (people claiming PS5 is 9.2 TF are gonna look like retard).
(2) PS5 is much less powerful than XSX (people claiming PS5 is 13 TF+ are gonna look like retard).

A sensible prediction for not being regarded as retards post-PS5 reveal:
(3) PS5's power is on par with XSX.
(4) Not jumping on any prediction train until the reveal.

Whatever the result, someone will get mad over it and I suggest we point and laugh at them.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Thanks!

It's a Atari 2600 Junior (Slim in other words ). Not so beautiful like the original VCS, but much smaller.

By the way, my complete collection (without my red/black PS4 and the Switch):

And some games with original packaging:

If I collected all the games in my room I might suffocate It would've been nice to show them to my kid. I have my SEGA Game Boy since 5th grade, I only found it last month! a yellow one. Should photograph it and send it later.

 

[RookX22]

Don’t bet your account on it... Oh wait! Someone did that and they’re still here!

Maybe they sent proof of a contact saying sony change dates due to covid19 or something.

 

[bitbydeath]

We don't even know what RDNA 2.0 actually is or its entire scope of benefits and features so to say added RT and VRS is the scope of what 2.0 will do is wholly dishonest.

That was confirmed by AMD in the slide I posted above.

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

I'm very awake, I don't take speculative vagaries and reading into what's being said more than is there as some kind of definitive answer to a question, because it's not.

You’re still in the denial fase... a few more steps before you accept... then it will be easier...

 

[ethomaz]

BTW official RDNA2 news will come in March 5, 2020.
Mithun Chandrashekhar confirmed that too.

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

BTW official RDNA2 news will come in March 5, 2020.
Mithun Chandrashekhar confirmed that too.

I believe Sony will drop something on the 3th