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[kyliethicc]

Birdie knows more about Sony stuff though he had thought we would be getting an Xbox show very soon.

The writing has been on the walls for quite some time this delay was incoming and the reveal was the final blow.

The talk was Xbox was going to have a show pretty early here this month but it seems to have been pushed a whole month back.

Dont blame all this on COVID btw, 343 has been a wreck for awhile.

Do you still expect that PlayStation game to be announced tomorrow?

 

[Nickolaidas]

100%

Christ ...

 

[mejin]

What's the hurry for a xbox event anyway? We can't believe what they say...

Although I hope Sony doesn't change plans and have an event for this month.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Do you still expect that PlayStation game to be announced tomorrow?

I do not

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Looking at the video properly through YouTube... I'd honestly say late current gen/early next gen.
Graphically, it looks stupendous.
But I think my mind is stuck on the notion that Next Gen is when we get massive big sprawling worlds like in Horizon Forbidden West or the Unreal demo.

I don't think it's on the same level as HFW but it still looks quite good compared to games out right now

 

[kyliethicc]

Did you miss TLOU2 and Iron man and Ghosts all being delayed?

And with only MM looking like a launch title rn, theres no way their didn't hope to have other games ready.

I could still see Sackboy Big Adventure and Destruction Allstars being launch games, Sony just didn’t say any dates for most games. Probaly because some are behind schedule due to COVID. Multiple gaming outlets said they had heard Sumo Digital has been making a Sackboy game for a while now, so it might be ready to go. They showed a lot of it in that trailer.

 

[JonnyMP3]

I could still see Sackboy Big Adventure and Destruction Allstars being launch games, Sony just didn’t say any dates for most games. Probaly because some are behind schedule due to COVID. Multiple gaming outlets said they had heard Sumo Digital has been making a Sackboy game for a while now, so it might be ready to go. They showed a lot of it in that trailer.

*Whispers*

Bugsnax

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Do you still expect that PlayStation game to be announced tomorrow?

Playstation game? As In first-party or one of those big timed exclusives?

 

[yewles1]

But it's not the first time this has happened in History.
Saturn and Dreamcast was Sega's undoing.....

Hmmmm

The Dreamcast wasn't a screw up, it suffered from the severe aftereffects of the Saturn.

 

[jimbojim]

So, this list needs to be updated with 2020 quote. Prefer this one :

“I honestly think we’re in the best launch lineup position that we’ve ever been on Xbox,” Spencer said.

Xbox Series X will have Microsoft’s ‘most diverse collection of first-party games’

Games that you can also play on Xbox One (and elsewhere)

www.polygon.com

 

[Moridianae]

So, if you're Sony.


Pull the triggers now or wait?

 

[Insane Metal]

Guys think with me for a second

Remember we had some insiders and even actual industry professionals saying they already had PS5 devkits but XSX devkits were still coming? Now we have word that Fable doesn't even have a writer yet... and Halo has been delayed... I mean, something is happening or happened with the XBox team, something is not right.

Now imagine if XSX is also in very short supply at launch as opposed to PS5 which Sony has already stated they're ramping up production to have lots of units available.

Hmmm.

 

[Rikoi]

So, if you're Sony.


Pull the triggers now or wait?

They have no reason to rush.
They got the upper hand and they will wait as much as they can before showing what they got up their sleeve.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Guys think with me for a second

Remember we had some insiders and even actual industry professionals saying they already had PS5 devkits but XSX devkits were still coming? Now we have word that Fable doesn't even have a writer yet... and Halo has been delayed... I mean, something is happening or happened with the XBox team, something is not right.

Now imagine if XSX is also in very short supply at launch as opposed to PS5 which Sony has already stated they're ramping up production to have lots of units available.

Hmmm.

wtf are you getting at

 

[JonnyMP3]

The Dreamcast wasn't a screw up, it suffered from the severe aftereffects of the Saturn.

So the XSX isn't a screw up yet but just suffering from the Xbox 1?

It still works!

 

[Andodalf]

I could still see Sackboy Big Adventure and Destruction Allstars being launch games, Sony just didn’t say any dates for most games. Probaly because some are behind schedule due to COVID. Multiple gaming outlets said they had heard Sumo Digital has been making a Sackboy game for a while now, so it might be ready to go. They showed a lot of it in that trailer.

Yeah I think it’s possible that those two games could be at launch, but Sony’s reticence to give them the same holiday disclaimer MM had makes me less than confident

 

[FunkMiller]

Those stories about 343 being a mess in development are all true, aren't they?

Schreier’s got a story coming soon about 343 that sounds like it’s going to be a horror show.

 

[Entroyp]

Personally I was hoping for MS to announce the price and open preorders so that Sony would do the same shortly afterward.

Edit: Quoted the wrong person.

 

[mejin]

Guys think with me for a second

Remember we had some insiders and even actual industry professionals saying they already had PS5 devkits but XSX devkits were still coming? Now we have word that Fable doesn't even have a writer yet... and Halo has been delayed... I mean, something is happening or happened with the XBox team, something is not right.

Now imagine if XSX is also in very short supply at launch as opposed to PS5 which Sony has already stated they're ramping up production to have lots of units available.

Hmmm.

Everything is fine with Xbox. Nothing to see here.

 

[kyliethicc]

Yeah I think it’s possible that those two games could be at launch, but Sony’s reticence to give them the same holiday disclaimer MM had makes me less than confident

true, I assume they’re afraid to announce then delay. Must mean Miles Morales is pretty far along. I could also see Sony holding a few games from launch to release them a bit later when people start wanting new games to play, like early 2021. Sony usually avoids putting too many games out in fall because of so many 3rd parties. For PS4, I think they only had 3 launch games.

 

[Entroyp]

Everything is fine with Xbox. Nothing to see here.

We should all focus our energy on bashing Sony for PS5 not running RE8 at 1080p/60 instead.

 

[Mod of War]

WOW! If BOTH me and you are telling the same person to 'Fuck off!'

Yeah, that person is probably a cunt.

Lay off the petty insults, this goes for everyone.

 

[JonnyMP3]

Lay off the petty insults, this goes for everyone.

Yes sir. It's done now.

 

[kyliethicc]

I bet Microsoft will wait to announce Series S at Dorito Pope’s Gamescom show. Then both Sony and Microsoft will wait til September to announce pricing. I hope I’m wrong and it comes earlier. Maybe Sony announces something this Friday for next week?

 

[IntentionalPun]

I really doubt Halo is going to be the only big delayed game this next year.

I mean, that's hardly a big gamble to say that.. but people really are underestimating how much COVID effects game development.

And I'm not just talking about "working from home" and all that entails (but it does have a negative impact either way)

It's a huge pain in the ass to do any sort of dev from home that involves massive assets that you pretty much have to download to your local box.. and games are about as massive as software gets.

 

[Metroiddarks]

Why are Sony games seemingly unaffected by this?

Or am I opening my big mouth too soon?

Sony was affected, Nintendo was affected but the decision of Sony of release a side story of Spiderman
in the end has its rewards, another difference is Sony focus in dev only for the new system, this release
a lot pressure in the dev.

 

[farmerboy]

So, if you're Sony.


Pull the triggers now or wait?

The perception is that MS is in disarray.

If Sony hit now with price, preorder, full disclosure on UI and feature list, teardown and one or two killer gameplay demos, then MS will seriously be on the back foot.

So they should do it.

If they don't, then maybe Sony isn't as far ahead as we think they are.

 

[Wraith Phantom]

It's all unravelling. Xbox was out there puffing their chest out last December. Talking all that smack. Next Gen. 12Tflop this, Power that,
We have studios & games we cant wait to show. Halo hype. And its all been average to sub par shit that never matched the hype.These guys have been winging it. When their house is all out of order. Reality is they don't have the goods.They don't have the goods.

The quality & lack of games for xbox are already revealed. I thought they had the hardware in order. But they don't. The hardware they keep covering up with PC footage is next to disappoint. Im just following the patterns. Talk big ,but don't back it up. The XSX hardware is next it wont live up to what they marketed. They did tell us with the representative disclaimer. But you know console warriors want to ignore it.

Xbox are pretty good at not delivering what they say. So let's keep watching & see how this all plays out. You cant keep doing smoke & mirror tricks. It all catches up eventually.

 

[GermanZepp]

So the Craig memes worked?

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Those stories about 343 being a mess in development are all true, aren't they?

It can't just be a 343i thing. If it was, MS would have relocated marketing and development resources to other titles. Something just doesn't add up. If 1 game is running behind schedule, show your contingencies. The contingencies were all PC games and CGI teasers.

I'd posit that Halo is actually further along than their other first party offerings. THAT should be the real concern. That was the best they had to offer in terms of XSX gameplay. Flight Sim is a PC-centric game. Always has been.

What has MS shown for XSX, from their studios, that would lead anyone to believe that 343i is the only team that's behind schedule? I think the schedule is the problem. If rumors about incomplete and buggy dev kits are true, then they're just rushing this launch.

 

[marvifrom]

Anyone notice some similarities here?

I guess we know where this is going.

 

[Insane Metal]

Everything is fine with Xbox. Nothing to see here.

I really don't think so. But I have no way to prove it, so... move along.

 

[jose4gg]

So the Craig memes worked?

Love the community and their ability to just take something fun and run with it.

 

[roops67]

Playstation Disadvantage is going to hit even harder. Dont gloat just yet. There are plenty of cross gen games coming out at launch and they might end up running better on the xsx.

Here we go again. I want to know exactly what are you basing this on? That these cross gen games will be utilizing all 12TF? You should know that's not how it works. But if there's something else you're basing this on then please let me know, cos I'm interested to know why so many say this?

 

[IntentionalPun]

So what is Sony's proposed launch lineup?

Is it Ratchet and Spiderman?

 

[GermanZepp]

So, I'm remembering OsirisBlack and his statement about xbox killing it in the games department. I'm sorry osiris you lost it.

 

[jimbojim]

So what is Sony's proposed launch lineup?

Is it Ratchet and Spiderman?

Spider man i think. For Ratchet they didn't mentioned it is a launch title. We will see 3rd party exclusives then. LOL

 

[GermanZepp]

Love the community and their ability to just take something fun and run with it.

It felt good after the ps5 show

 

[roops67]

They won't run so much better on XsX that anyone will care. Only hardcores watch DigitalFoundry. Casuals just want good games to play and when they find out that PSAdv is giving them exclusive content their mind will be made up. I expect XsX to have better resolution or better effects but it won't be so much better that it will matter to me, or you

I'm just repeating what I asked slimysnake above. How are you coming to this conclusion that XSX will have better res or effects, will these cross gen games max out the PS5 10TF?

 

[kyliethicc]

So what is Sony's proposed launch lineup?

Is it Ratchet and Spiderman?

Spider Miles, Sackboy, Destruction Allstars, and Astro’s Playroom. That’s my guess.

Horizon 2, Ratchet, Demon’s Souls, GT7, Returnal all seem like 2021 games.
But who knows. I could see one of those slipping into early 2022 as well.

 

[Insane Metal]

So, I'm remembering OsirisBlack and his statement about xbox killing it in the games department. I'm sorry osiris you lost it.

Maybe we got it wrong, they are KILLING the games.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Spider Miles, Sackboy, Destruction Allstars, and Astro’s Playroom

That’s my guess. Horizon 2, Ratchet, Demon’s Souls, GT7, Returnal all seem like 2021 games. But who knows. I could see one of those splitting into early 2022 as well.

I really have very little excitement for anything from either side until Horizon 2 myself.

But that's a pretty normal console launch.. and I have a PS4 backlog I plan on playing in BC with that sweet sweet SSD so I'll be good lol

Thinking I'll pause on Days Gone and wait for BC for instance.. some of the loading is atrocious in that game.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

I'm on PC, i have more games than all the consoles put together. And again the snide remarks, the insults. Counter what i posted.

I'm also on PC and I have more games on my PC than all my consoles put together, too. And I find the power gap to be insignificant because teraflops are not everything.

Isn't the Appeal to Authority game very fun?

 

[onQ123]

So what is Sony's proposed launch lineup?

Is it Ratchet and Spiderman?

Unlike Xbox , PlayStation can actually sell without a big launch line up because they have a track record of delivering.


Xbox need everything they can to weather this storm & things just keep getting worse & if it wasn't for the fact that Xbox Series X can be used for Xcloud it would probably be on the chopping block.


Saying "Sony Too" isn't going to make you feel better about the way things are going Xbox console brand is dying & a bad launch can finish them off & get the plug pulled but people keep ignoring the smoke.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Unlike Xbox , PlayStation can actually sell without a big launch line up because they have a track record of delivering.


Xbox need everything they can to weather this storm & things just keep getting worse & if it wasn't for the fact that Xbox Series X can be used for Xcloud it would probably be on the chopping block.


Saying "Sony Too" isn't going to make you feel better about the way things are going Xbox console brand is dying & a bad launch can finish them off & get the plug pulled but people keep ignoring the smoke.

I'm not saying "Sony Too" though? lol

Just legit asking the question as I was trying to think of what I'll be playing this winter. Not every comment is some console war bullshit jesus.

Search my comments I've been suggesting XBox could be on the way out for months around here.

 

[SlimySnake]

Here we go again. I want to know exactly what are you basing this on? That these cross gen games will be utilizing all 12TF? You should know that's not how it works. But if there's something else you're basing this on then please let me know, cos I'm interested to know why so many say this?

Basing this on 4 consoles this gen. And every single pc card that's ever been released since tflops became an acceptable metric.

More tflops means more pixels that can be rendered. More pixels means better resolution. This isn't rocket science. A 2080 will always perform better than a 2070. A 5700xt will always perform better than a 5600 xt. It's just numbers.

 

[Dave_at_Home]

I really don't know what all the fuss is about with launch games on PS5 or Series X. Launch lineups are usually weak. Whatever, so not ever lineup can consist of ESPN International Track and Field, or FantaVision. Big whoop. You need mama to wipe away those tears? BIG FAT BABIES.

 

[geordiemp]

Guys think with me for a second

Remember we had some insiders and even actual industry professionals saying they already had PS5 devkits but XSX devkits were still coming? Now we have word that Fable doesn't even have a writer yet... and Halo has been delayed... I mean, something is happening or happened with the XBox team, something is not right.

Now imagine if XSX is also in very short supply at launch as opposed to PS5 which Sony has already stated they're ramping up production to have lots of units available.

Hmmm.

And the fast loading of XSX was not fast, games running on PC. Maybe, just maybe, MS are stioll working on velocity arcitecture as we have had allot of PR and no show.

 

[GlassAwful]

So when does the nextgen hype cycle begin again? 2021?

Oh, it already started... Really? That's unfortunate. Good luck to them, lol.

 

[Dodkrake]

seems like the pricing of next gen is not this month.

While I agree a delay like this takes balls, can we stop blaming covid for games being incomplete? This game has been in development for 5 years. They had plenty of time and showed an Xbox One game not running on the target hardware.