Nope, the gap is much less now. The XONEX had more ram, better bandwidth (relative), faster CPU, faster CPU, and the same I/O.
What racism and discrimination? Are we talking the new definition of racism? White = racist? Take this crap elsewhere
Talking about whats been shown, how u doing with halo infinite . How does that look to u ? It offers enough generational leap for you to consider xsx a worthy purchase ? (I m using a sentence u just used for gt7
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Talking about whats been shown, how u doing with halo infinite . How does that look to u ? It offers enough generational leap for you to consider xsx a worthy purchase ? (I m using a sentence u just used for gt7
Thank you for your input. Can you comment on memory contention problems on a PS5? Tempest Engine consumes bandwidth too.OK, so what is the difference between XSX and Ps5, well, I have an easy picture for you of what it is likely to be
The CUs will be same, XSX has more, ps5 they run 20 % faster clock, and likely different Geometry engines...
The shader array has the CU fed by L1.
Blue is the ps5 lilely arrangment, 20 % faster clock and feeding 10 CU
Green is XSX, slower clock and feeding 14 CU
Note the PC Big Navi is also rumoured to be L1 feeding 10 CU shader array......
The internal bandwidths feeding teh CUs are just as important if not more important than memory bandwidth (as long as L2 cache is kept busy), and Ps5 will have a much better bandwidth on the silicon chip feeding those CUs.
I believe the larger shader array design of the XSX is the result of the focus on running 4 XB1s games as a server, and hence 4 larger shader arrays and this looks to be the design focus. We will need to see if any PC parts on RDNA2 have larger 14 CU shader arrays, and even then the proof will be in benchmarks..
I would bet my house on ps5 having better utilisation of shaders as a console as its Sonys sole focus, but we await benchmarks and white papers. I am not saying ps5 is stronger, but the difference will be not as you expect coming from the simple 12 > 10 brigade..
No its an xsx ported to x1 . U were saying this few months back that games are designed for highest spec and ported down. So why change of heart ?? Its a rhetorical question . U don't need to answer.
That's not raytracing either. You can go watch the gameplay segment, and specifically watch at the way the tunnel lights are reflected on the left tip of the bonnet. typical cube mapping.
It's so easy to trigger Sony fanboys into tantrums just by questioning their narrative. They either ignore me or follow me around like my dear palchilichote .
It's funny because it's true. Thanks.
Well xss makes xsx an upresolution machine for xss. Xss will have limited ram for gpu (4 gb available to gpu from the 10 gb ) which limits next gen destruction , hence xsx can't have it and ends up being an upresolutuon machine for series S . Sad but trueYou're mixing things up and constructing a fallacy. That's expected when you are in this tantrum mode you are, though.
I said back then that if the Series S exists, it's easiest to design for the highest spec Xbox Series and then downgrade from there, not that the Halo Infinite was an Xbox Series X downported to the Xbox One.
The Xbox One it's a total different architecture and it's too underpowered to work in the same way as the theorical Series S and Series X would work. They will be literally designed to be scalable, unlike the Xbox One.
Yeah, seems some people in this thread are really angry
Don't worry man, I enjoy every second of it.
Basic common sense. There will be some exceptions, but certainly not the rule.Well xss makes xsx an upresolution machine for xss. Xss will have limited ram for gpu (4 gb available to gpu from the 10 gb ) which limits next gen destruction , hence xsx can't have it and ends up being an upresolutuon machine for series S . Sad but true
Whoa watch it man. You have no idea what I'm talking about. When I was attacked I learned to just back off and leave some topics alone. Wow you even mention discrimination and "people" get hostile. The point was don't be a martyr. Jesus you all get crazy.
I mean will a 2tflops difference result in one console can run Native 4k at 60fps, and the other run Dynamic 4k at 60fps
Well xss makes xsx an upresolution machine for xss. Xss will have limited ram for gpu (4 gb available to gpu from the 10 gb ) which limits next gen destruction , hence xsx can't have it and ends up being an upresolutuon machine for series S . Sad but true
Closer than that. More like 1920p vs 2160p
You don’t get to drop the mike making a general statement like that, painting this community in such a fashion.
Yea like any dev would waste time creating 2 sets of destruction for one platform ? Maybe ms will do it.
That's not raytracing either. You can go watch the gameplay segment, and specifically watch at the way the tunnel lights are reflected on the left tip of the bonnet. typical cube mapping.
What is a "provocation"? Are you for real?
The question was:
"Now of course, I know that these games aren't doing NEARLY what that minecraft demo was. That was FULL path tracing as I understand it...part of why it was so damn impressive that the XSX could even pull it off! But my question is....to put it in simple terms...if that minecraft demo was FULL RT, then what percentage are we seeing and likely to see in our standard PS5/XSX titles? Is what we're seeing in say GT7, 10% 20%? Less? I've read some speculation that somehow the RT portions may just be 1080p to save on resources? I don't understand how that works, but is there anyone who DOES understand it and can answer these questions in a simple form...in other words, without a doctoral thesis on the subject? "
So, my answer is: We haven't seen any ray tracing in gameplay section, but in the pit section where rt reflections where shown, you can see how the resolution is lower and there is detail missing.
So for example one can see how the cupboard cover from glass is reflected as solid, see how the car is reflected without its rims, etc.
And I don't even want to comment on your "the engine can handle it at 8k@120fps (or 4k@240fps)" part, because
some of you guys make it really impossible for anything that resembles a conversation to take place.
This is basically the "praise cerny/shit on xbox" thread, filled with personal attacks to anybody that is reasonable instead of daydreaming, and he is considered a "provocateur" and gets all kinds of swearing.
And this makes the official title of this thread "Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Speculation/Analysis/Leaks Thread" very misleading unfortunately.
I doubt Xbox would allow the X and S versions to differ on content. The only differences will be resolution and or frame rate. Same as Xbox One S/X.
Save us lol. Trying to teach people to move forward and not be victims here. Think the waiting is making people crazy.
Good point. That may be the case, not just devs not bothering.
I call him. Idiot
What are you talking about? You are getting real weird. That did happen in another thread and I don't go back. Simple. Now sit down somewhere. This isn't the part where you do this. I love this community. I'm not painting anything. It was the truth. He needs to learn to let go and move on. This is what Heiesenberg was basically saying. Stay humble. You are getting hostile and will be put on ignore its all good. Don't let your inner guilt kick you in the backside.
Maybe you mis-worded your intent? “When I was attacked on here I didn't return to a certain thread due to racism and discrimination here”
Unlikely, depends on the game. Some multi-platform games already run better on PS4.
As u said we can't be sure untill we see it
. U said that one page ago. So let's wait and see
You can browse the thread for 10 minutes and you will see who are those who disrespect and always resort to personal attacks.
) but the question was not about potential
He doesn't get how provocative, disrespectful and derailing he really is. I have put him on ignore already but can't avoid seeing his comments from time to time . He is beyond fixing at this point imo. He fishes for negativity then once he receives the negativity he cries about it for 5 pages in the thread . Its like a cycle with him . He does the same everyday. If i were u ,I would put him on ignore and move on .
