DenchDeckard
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Is it up on xbox yet?
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Ninja Gaiden 2 Black Announced | Available Today on Console, PC, and Xbox Game Pass
Timberwolf25
Member
It is. I'm downloading and installing now, but it is slower than usual.
Guessing a f-ton of people are also trying to get it
Timberwolf25
Member
Different difficulties could account for the number of enemies on screen. I'm pretty sure it was the same for NGB
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I feel I should buy it. Will give it a go first to make sure I'm happy with the quality.
MazingerDUDE
Member
OK EVEN WORSE NEWS!!!
They even further reduced the enemy count on screen
Now it's like 3 norm 4 max instead of 4 norm 6 max of Sigma 2
(and NG2 was like 8 norm 12 max)
black my ass
They should call this Sigma 2 Sigma
They even further reduced the enemy count on screen
Now it's like 3 norm 4 max instead of 4 norm 6 max of Sigma 2
(and NG2 was like 8 norm 12 max)
black my ass
They should call this Sigma 2 Sigma
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Timberwolf25
Member
yea, if it is as good as I hope, I'll buy it just to add to my collection of the best NG games.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
the 85gb is going to take a bit to install, so I just inserted my NGII disc and gonna play through it for a while (super upgraded NG+), so I'll have some fresh comparison material.
MMaRsu
Member
Smart Ill do the same
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Mainly interested in this as its TN's first game using UE5 and not KT's internal engine, maybe they looked at Rise Of The Ronin and realized the tech just doesn't stack up, or at the least is going to require a lot of additional investment to get on par feature-wise.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes, very beefy 86GB download.
NeverYouMind
Member
Ninja Gaiden II PinkOK EVEN WORSE NEWS!!!
They even further reduced the enemy count on screen
Now it's like 3 norm 4 max instead of 4 norm 6 max of Sigma 2
(and NG2 was like 8 norm 12 max)
black my ass
They should call this Sigma 2 Sigma
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Bry0
Member
Does difficulty change anything regarding counts or just enemy rank?OK EVEN WORSE NEWS!!!
They even further reduced the enemy count on screen
Now it's like 3 norm 4 max instead of 4 norm 6 max of Sigma 2
(and NG2 was like 8 norm 12 max)
black my ass
They should call this Sigma 2 Sigma
Timberwolf25
Member
Max playing on normal difficulty, and easily 5-7 enemies on screen. I'll do my own comparisons later, but I don't see any issues from what I've seen him play so far.
The real question is when anyone gets to the staircase of framerate death
The real question is when anyone gets to the staircase of framerate death
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Hopefully this will play well on Steam Deck.
Blood Borne
Member
Not true.
Spam Izuna drop and on-landing UTs and you’ll breeze through the game.
sainraja
Member
In the 360 version, based on this footage anyway, the enemies seem to be waiting their turn, so does it matter? lol
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paolo11
Member
Does the team missions have the upgraded weapons already?
Blood Borne
Member
Facts.The difference between Souls vs NG
Souls: When you go back after 1 year and start all over, you die exactly as many times as your first try
NG: When you go back after 10 years and start all over, you can still beat the game with both eyes closed
BossLackey
Gold Member
OK EVEN WORSE NEWS!!!
They even further reduced the enemy count on screen
Now it's like 3 norm 4 max instead of 4 norm 6 max of Sigma 2
(and NG2 was like 8 norm 12 max)
black my ass
They should call this Sigma 2 Sigma
FUCK
GHG
Member
OK EVEN WORSE NEWS!!!
They even further reduced the enemy count on screen
Now it's like 3 norm 4 max instead of 4 norm 6 max of Sigma 2
(and NG2 was like 8 norm 12 max)
black my ass
They should call this Sigma 2 Sigma
Oh shit.
Ninja Gaiden 4 is about to be for "modern audiences" isn't it?
paolo11
Member
What difficulty? Maybe master has more?OK EVEN WORSE NEWS!!!
They even further reduced the enemy count on screen
Now it's like 3 norm 4 max instead of 4 norm 6 max of Sigma 2
(and NG2 was like 8 norm 12 max)
black my ass
They should call this Sigma 2 Sigma
NeverYouMind
Member
SEGAvangelist
Member
Is it different at higher difficulties?OK EVEN WORSE NEWS!!!
They even further reduced the enemy count on screen
Now it's like 3 norm 4 max instead of 4 norm 6 max of Sigma 2
(and NG2 was like 8 norm 12 max)
black my ass
They should call this Sigma 2 Sigma
Fabieter
Member
OK just tried the game and BAD NEWS!!
THIS IS NOT NINJA GAIDEN 2 BLACK
This is just Sigma 2 with new graphics and added gore
just as I predicted
So its not worth to buy it? Serious question iam still on the fence
.MazingerDUDE
Member
Playing this game on mentor, the highest difficulty available in your first try as any NG fans would
Fabieter
Member
I never played sigma either. Iam new to the series as a whole. Why should I prefer black?
Timberwolf25
Member
Straight from the boss:
Yasuda continued: "This version is crafted to satisfy both those who played the original and newcomers discovering it as a current-generation action game. We’ve meticulously incorporated some of the additions of Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 while staying true to the challenge and feel of the original 360 version, including its signature gore and violence. We’ve also adjusted the weapon upgrade system to more align with the original release.”
So like I thought, based on the OG, but added some elements from Sigma. True to the challenge of the OG means it'll likely be harder than Sigma
Yasuda continued: "This version is crafted to satisfy both those who played the original and newcomers discovering it as a current-generation action game. We’ve meticulously incorporated some of the additions of Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 while staying true to the challenge and feel of the original 360 version, including its signature gore and violence. We’ve also adjusted the weapon upgrade system to more align with the original release.”
So like I thought, based on the OG, but added some elements from Sigma. True to the challenge of the OG means it'll likely be harder than Sigma
Timberwolf25
Member
Definitive version of the NG games with harder and additional enemies if the OG Ninja Gaiden Black is anything to go by.
NeverYouMind
Member
Projectile mechanics are Sigma as are interactive elements that simply are in the final state. You can quote me on that.
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paolo11
Member
If the weapon upgrade is like 2, I assume the damage will be higher in team missions
Timberwolf25
Member
Do you mean the bow???
I don't remember the projectile mechanics of either. It's been such a long time since I played them
TonberrysKnife
Member
OH MY FUCK. TAKE MY FUCKING MONEY NOW.
Griffon
Member
Eh... maybe someday I should track down and try NG1 Black, because NG2 never impressed me much. It's jank af and doesn't get better the farther you play.
MGR, even in its unfinished state, is a better Ninja Gaiden than NG2 could ever hope to be, and is also far from perfect...
MGR, even in its unfinished state, is a better Ninja Gaiden than NG2 could ever hope to be, and is also far from perfect...
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NeverYouMind
Member
Timberwolf25
Member
Comparison to previous versions from the Team Ninja website
3 bosses from the Sigma versions are not present here as well as less costumes for the playable additional characters than Sigma
5 levels of difficulty
NINJA GAIDEN 2 Black
Take on the role of Ryu Hayabusa, a ninja who has inherited the legendary “Dragon Sword”, and battles across the world in this graphically enhanced remaster, delivering the most breathtaking and frenetic ninja action to date!
teamninja-studio.com
3 bosses from the Sigma versions are not present here as well as less costumes for the playable additional characters than Sigma
5 levels of difficulty
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Giallo Corsa
Member
"Comparison between NINJA GAIDEN 2 and other entries in the series
Graphics
The game uses Unreal Engine 5 to significantly refine the graphics.
Balance Adjustment
Combat balance such as damage and enemy placements has been adjusted from previous entries in the series.
Bosses like the "Giant Buddha Statue: Hatensoku" and the "The Statue of Liberty" do not appear in this title.
Online Features
Online features such as ranking and co-op play, which were included in NINJA GAIDEN 2 and NINJA GAIDEN Σ2, are not available in this title.
The "NINJA RACE" Mode
The "NINJA RACE Mode," featured in NINJA GAIDEN Σ2 PLUS, is not included in this title.
Gore
Blood and dismemberment effects in this title are based on NINJA GAIDEN 2.
However, you can switch the settings to match the effects in NINJA GAIDEN Σ2 via the options menu."
Apparently, it's something in-between NG2 and Sigma2 ? If true, I'm wouldn't necessarily have a problem with that.
Can someone test this ? On mentor, during the 1st hallway (immediately after the intro) there's some rocket launcher enemies IIRC, are they present in this version ?
Aion002
Member
If it's like the original Sigma 2, I think that the upgrades are carried from from sp mode. So you need to upgrade them there first.
saintjules
Gold Member
edit: wrong game.
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MazingerDUDE
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Reizo Ryuu
Member
Already in chapter 2, forgot how OP the true dragon sword is, killed the first boss in like 4 heavy hits lol.
Aion002
Member
A quick comparison between Sigma 2 Remaster and Black 2 Remaster on the Series S:
Other than the graphics and some art style changes: Black 2 Remaster has lots of blood, no purple effect, the camera is a little better and on normal it seems to be easier than Sigma 2. Other than that, apparently, is the same thing.
I will probably finish it thanks to gamepass and I will buy it during a sale for less than 10 usd.
Other than the graphics and some art style changes: Black 2 Remaster has lots of blood, no purple effect, the camera is a little better and on normal it seems to be easier than Sigma 2. Other than that, apparently, is the same thing.
I will probably finish it thanks to gamepass and I will buy it during a sale for less than 10 usd.
Timberwolf25
Member
Can you change to the highest difficulty on the fly or is it unlocked via playthroughs?
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I'm replaying NG2, still downloading black.