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How is this a problem when there are a thousand alternatives available?

that is exactly the problem. once these retarded laws push all the well run and moderated sites to block users, shadier and shadier ones will become the ones people will he pushed towards.

this increases the risk of illegal materal being spread, of personal information being stolen etc.

Pornhub is only the first and most well known one to lead the rest.

 

[SlimySnake]

I've actively blocked all porn on a router level on my home network. It's not good for the brain.

Get a girlfriend or wife instead.

To be fair, they are not good for the brain either.

 

[Salz01]

It’s funny to me, because it seems mostly liberal states allow it still.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

It’s funny to me, because it seems mostly liberal states allow it still.

freedom is sorta funny that way. it's all relative.

my ex was from Texas and when I was there I'd be teased about our gun laws in California and my lack of freedom. which is valid.

meanwhile I can walk into a store an buy an ounce of marijuana in California, whereas possession of a disposable THC vape was a felony in Texas.

 

[FunkMiller]

freedom is sorta funny that way. it's all relative.

my ex was from Texas and when I was there I'd be teased about our gun laws in California and my lack of freedom. which is valid.

meanwhile I can walk into a store an buy an ounce of marijuana in California, whereas possession of a disposable THC vape was a felony in Texas.

America is not one country.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

America is not one country.

basically this

my parents both came here from Europe, and all my family is still in Europe

America is much easier to make sense of if you treat each state as its own unique country tbh

I get how Federalism works. I still think the above analogy applies.

 

[FunkMiller]

Surprised to see how many people here are OK with the Government telling them what to do, by stating that it's PornHubs choice for not wanting to do the ID verification thing is even more amusing, I thought you Americans were against that sort of thing?

Right? It's so fucking weird. There are things they will scream 'muh freedoms!' about until their blue in the face, but others - like this - meh... who cares?

I love you, my American cousins, but you have absolutely zero consistency when it comes to stuff you want your government to do, and what you don't want it to do.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Right? It's so fucking weird. There are things they will scream 'muh freedoms!' about until their blue in the face, but others - like this - meh... who cares?

I love you, my American cousins, but you have absolutely zero consistency when it comes to stuff you want your government to do, and what you don't want it to do.

its true. just like in my above example, its the same reason Texans won't admit that their inability to buy something like cannabis is an infringement on their freedom.

I definitely lean conservative, but this shouldn't be too shocking to you. lots of conservatives are still worried about whether people of the same sex should be able to get married, whether gays should be able to have anal sex, etc. it's unfortunate.

both the right and the left love crying about freedoms while simultaneously trying to restrict the freedom of others

edit: conservatives can get weird when it comes to sex stuff

 

[HAYA8U5A]

 

[Doczu]

My, my...

So it's okay for the government to require more restrictions on some things that can harm people, eh?

Beware of your cuttlery loicense mate.

 

[violence]

There’s so many weirdos now, what do we do about it?

 

[Dr.D00p]

I remember when these type of laws were first proposed in the UK years ago, which never happened BTW, and Americans routinely laughed at us for such draconian state controlled interference in people's lives.

Now I can just Laugh at you guys for actually doing it.

 

[El Muerto]

I live in a red state and it's been blocked for a little while now. Notice how red states blocked porn sites, but didnt block Grinder....

Grindr Dating App Crashes in Milwaukee During RNC: Everything We Know

RNC goers may have been looking for romantic partners while in Milwaukee.

www.newsweek.com

 

[ahtlas7]

Pornhub doesn’t offer the correct flavor of porn? Why block them specifically?

 

[HoodWinked]

Pornhub doesn’t offer the correct flavor of porn? Why block them specifically?

They aren't banned they voluntarily cease operations as a form of protest because they don't want to comply with implementing a age verification system.

 

[newtypepilot]

tbh, pornhub kinda sucks now

 

[The Pleasure]

This makes those that peddle physical porn the true magistrates of industry!

 

[GymWolf]

Pornhub is for pussies.

 

[The Pleasure]

 

[JimmyRustler]

Hate to be the guy but… good. There is way too much shady business going on in this industry and also porn is shit in general for everyone. For all I care they can ban all of it - and ai‘m saying this as occasional consumer.

 

[Toons]

Right? It's so fucking weird. There are things they will scream 'muh freedoms!' about until their blue in the face, but others - like this - meh... who cares?

I love you, my American cousins, but you have absolutely zero consistency when it comes to stuff you want your government to do, and what you don't want it to do.

Principles went our of fashion here a while ago. It's all about loyalty to a "side" now.

This is absolutely government overreach/information control any way you slice it but some will let it slide because of that.

 

[Jenov]

Principles went our of fashion here a while ago. It's all about loyalty to a "side" now.

This is absolutely government overreach/information control any way you slice it but some will let it slide because of that.

It’s the same “government overreach” as making strip clubs enforce an 18+ identity check or mandating a 21+ drinking age. The states didn’t block pornhub, they blocked themselves because they don’t want to follow any age restriction controls.

 

[winjer]

I did walk into an Adult Video Store once and there was a cop right next to the guy looking at my ID. Same thing at a strip club. In my city, there can’t be a full nude club, so everyone goes right outside the state for it. I haven’t done that since I was 18.

I’m not surprised. The amount of porn I knew kids at school were viewing was unheard of. Idk about everywhere else, but that was what most guys did after school.

Parents aren’t all going to stand up and do something about it. Kids get cell phones and they google everything. I don’t exactly want my kids to watch the Pokémon XXX parody or that Simpsons porn that was everywhere decades ago.

But there is major difference.
When the guy at the store asked for your id, he just looked at it, then gave it back. And that was it.
But if you associate an id with online accounts, companies and the government can track everything you do, to your id.
It's not just one simple cookie, or your IP. Which you can delete or change, to avoid tracking.
It's tied to your personal id. And this is a huge breach of privacy.
But then remember that so many companies get hacked. Now even hackers will know exactly who you are and what you did on the internet.

 

[Paasei]

I'm not even surprised considering we're talking about the US here, lol.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

I remember when one night in Paris was going around on bootleg dvds.

 

[E-Cat]

The nation of Puritans and the Scarlet Letter

 

[Zathalus]

Does anyone know what the law says about ID verification? Is it where you upload your ID and it gets stored in a database permanently associated with your account? Or does it verify at runtime and then delete the information after the check has completed? The latter would require a check each time you visit the site but at least your ID won’t be stored with any dodgy database that a Porn site decided to use.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

My, my...

So it's okay for the government to require more restrictions on some things that can harm people, eh?

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

To be fair, they are not good for the brain either.

Touché.

 

[thefool]

We'll eventually have the tech to be able to confirm the age of an user while keeping anonymity but we're not there and I'm 100% against porn companies withholding private information of their users. But I am very favorable of limiting minors to access the absolute derangement that is porn these days, and porn companies also need to be part of the solution, as well as ISPs and, especially, parents.

 

[mitch1971]

I've actively blocked all porn on a router level on my home network. It's not good for the brain.

Get a girlfriend or wife instead.

Funny, cause I've blocked all women on the route to my home. Porn is freely available, though.

 

[Sub_Level]

Incidentally I am in Texas and have been jerking off to multiple porn sites every single day. A VPN is of course recommended but it is not even needed. There are, I don’t know, dozens of tube sites, dozens of clip sites, tons of forums where people post OF and other site content for countless models, not to mention the wild west known as discord.

You don’t even need porn sites anymore if you just want to look at chicks tbh. Peruse through instagram or twitter and you’ll find more material than you could ever browse in a lifetime. Genie is out of the bottle, can’t put it back in lol.

 

[Putonahappyface]

Pornhub is for pussies.

And arseholes too.

 

[Sushi_Combo]

Where are the anti-censorship warriors?

 

[DrFigs]

I don't see how this is anti free speech. you need an id to get into a strip club, don't you?

 

[Doczu]

Funny, cause I've blocked all women on the route to my home. Porn is freely available, though.

Ypu sure you blocked them or you got a 50 feet restraining order?

 

[LordCBH]

I don't see how this is anti free speech. you need an id to get into a strip club, don't you?

You need an ID to basically everything in America….except vote.

 

[Punished Miku]

America. Now the home of censorship.

All blocked by the "freedom" "free speech" party. The party of "limited government" that wants you to now log in with your driver's license so the state can log all your viewing in this area.

Also about to block Tik Tok because it might show people news not controlled by the US government.

 

[Tokio Blues]

What a joke.

 

[Toons]

It’s the same “government overreach” as making strip clubs enforce an 18+ identity check or mandating a 21+ drinking age. The states didn’t block pornhub, they blocked themselves because they don’t want to follow any age restriction controls.

Strip clubs having an 18+ identity check is usually handled by the strip club itself not the government. And my ID probably doesn't go to some database when this happens. Its just checked by a real life person and thats it.

 

[daffyduck]

So what’s the online alternative to physically checking ID at Brick & Mortar, that isn’t also a massive violation of privacy, that the US or really any government would accept?

Don’t get me wrong, whatever methods they have now are too invasive, but I don’t imagine governments getting less invasive, if anything it will be more.

 

[GymWolf]

What a joke.

A sperm donor walk into a sperm bank and the nurse ask: why the long face?
The dude: read the news darling, a face is the only long thing i can maintain today.

 

[demented waffle]

They're doing it based on puritanical government legislation that was explicitly designed by pearl clutchers to make accessing the site more difficult.

Meh, nvm, was having a bad day.

 

[Kacho]

Damn, porn is tearing this place apart! Muthafucka...

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Damn, porn is tearing this place apart! Muthafucka...

Yeah, I guess that good ol’ “NeoGAF discusses pornography” meme doesn’t cut it anymore.

 

[stn]

Eh, I think some time away from porn is a healthy thing in general. I'm not saying ban porn permanently, and I'm not a hardcore conservative-type or anything, but some people go nuts with porn and it screws with their brain chemicals and body.

 

[Kraz]

Billie Eilish went off about the negative impacts of accessing porn at a young age.


It's not an uncommon opinion.

ID requirements being applied uniformly to the different sites, and those that don't meet those requirements being blocked should help the established sites and shouldn't be a free speech issue. It won't completely stop it, but that with parental oversight and social disapproval should greatly reduce it.

 

[FunkMiller]

Eh, I think some time away from porn is a healthy thing in general. I'm not saying ban porn permanently, and I'm not a hardcore conservative-type or anything, but some people go nuts with porn and it screws with their brain chemicals and body.

No argument there. It’s just the towering hypocrisy of some Americans that does my head in.

 

[Nydius]

Strip clubs having an 18+ identity check is usually handled by the strip club itself not the government. And my ID probably doesn't go to some database when this happens. Its just checked by a real life person and thats it.

Why would it be any different online? You're not submitting your information to the government, you're submitting it to the site runner/owner. The onus is on them to ensure they verify identity, just as it's on the strip club bouncer or the convenience store clerk to verify age before selling restricted items.

If you have to be 18+ to go into an adult porn video store, or an adult club, or an adult novelty store, or buy an porno magazine, online should he held to the exact same standard. That's not an anti-porn position. I'm not calling for the banning of porn. Just that the rules be consistent. Society, at least here in the US, has decided that anyone under 18 shouldn't be legally allowed to access porn. I don't want to hear any excuses about why it can't/shouldn't be done for online sites because what you're doing is establishing a different set of rules for the internet which opens a bigger pandora's box regarding other age restricted things.

Also, the complaint of "I don't want my information going to a database" is kinda meaningless considering everyone's ID is already in multiple government and civil databases already. You probably don't even know how many. In the US, there are 14 conditions where your DL or state ID information can be shared, many of which don't even require your authorization.

 

[Punished Miku]

So what’s the online alternative to physically checking ID at Brick & Mortar, that isn’t also a massive violation of privacy, that the US or really any government would accept?

Don’t get me wrong, whatever methods they have now are too invasive, but I don’t imagine governments getting less invasive, if anything it will be more.

Could just have the ISPs flag sites and do it without ever reporting anywhere else. When you sign up for internet, you check a box if you want the filter off and never touch it again. Done.