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alabtrosMyster
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This is probably why, I always had problems going back to machines that can't even handle screen scrolling at least as well as the NES (that means that the Atati ST is a big no no as well, even tho I had one as a kid).
However, I will plat classics like pac-man, donkey kong, dig dug, etc. from time to time.
There is just so much back catalog to be nostalgic about, I don't think we all have to feel it for everything.
OldBoyGamer
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Yeh absolutely. I was just pointing out that’s a real shame you feel that way as there’s so much goodness on the platform.
Me personally I love jumping between as many platforms as possible when it comes to retro games. I love it when someone tells me to play game x on machine y which never played before.
But I also do understand. I struggle to play much from the old Atari, colleco vision for example. And these days I can struggle to play c64 games for some reason. They’re low res really plays havoc with my eyes I think.
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Naked Lunch
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90% of what I play these days are retro games. Modern gaming has its spots - but its mostly a miss for me.
Ill take N64 Sin & Punishment/Bangai-O, Genesis/Saturn shmups, NES action, SNES/PS1 RPGs or even things like Gameboy Donkey Kong 94 over anything modern really. No contest.
I went the original hardware route - considering Ive had these consoles just sitting there boxed up collecting dust for years.
I spent the past 5 years or so cleaning up and restoring my old consoles, acquiring Everdrives, cables, and an upscaler.
Just wild whats possible on original hardware these days. Everything from adding cd audio to SNES games with MSU1 - to simply adding Dpad support to N64 Yoshi Story.
I recently went on a Sega Racing binge (stuck on Saturn Sega Rally for a while - game is too good), lower key NES stuff like Mysterious Murasame Castle, Herebreke, and Bio Miracle Oppa, and working thru the insanely difficult SNES Fire Emblem games. Shame Nintendo never ported those over FE in the SNES heyday.
Ill take N64 Sin & Punishment/Bangai-O, Genesis/Saturn shmups, NES action, SNES/PS1 RPGs or even things like Gameboy Donkey Kong 94 over anything modern really. No contest.
I went the original hardware route - considering Ive had these consoles just sitting there boxed up collecting dust for years.
I spent the past 5 years or so cleaning up and restoring my old consoles, acquiring Everdrives, cables, and an upscaler.
Just wild whats possible on original hardware these days. Everything from adding cd audio to SNES games with MSU1 - to simply adding Dpad support to N64 Yoshi Story.
I recently went on a Sega Racing binge (stuck on Saturn Sega Rally for a while - game is too good), lower key NES stuff like Mysterious Murasame Castle, Herebreke, and Bio Miracle Oppa, and working thru the insanely difficult SNES Fire Emblem games. Shame Nintendo never ported those over FE in the SNES heyday.
OldBoyGamer
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Have you played sega rally PS3? It’s a real blast. But it has a difficulty spike a few hours in that can be a killer.
alabtrosMyster
Member
Yup, I play a lot of games on systems that I had little or no access to back in the days.
I completely agree with you for the c64, its palette is too soft as well... But at least it has some colors and does surprisingly well all things considered.
Naked Lunch
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I have the Rally on 360 - Sega Rally Revo. Not sure if thats the one you mean. Its ok - doesnt have the feel of the original. Maybe ill give it another try.
I also have Sega Rally 2005 PS2 Japanese version with a remix of the original - and even that doesnt look or play correctly.
That Saturn port is just perfection. The Plus version adds 3d controller support which is the way to play.
Just crazy the original Sega Rally never got the HD treatment on modern consoles - we got Daytona at least.
OldBoyGamer
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Oh yeh the ps2 version is fantastic.
The xb360 version is very different to the original arcade game but is pretty high octane and just pure speedy fun. Might have agreed badly now though tbf.
Of course the DC version is outback stop the one right?
Daniel Thomas MacInnes
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I thinkDaniel Thomas MacInnes would know. He's the Saturn expert around these parts.
Sorry, I've been a bit busy moving to a new house this past week, but I wanted to be sure to respond to this question. Sega Saturn's internal battery has 510 blocks, which is enough to save a number of games before running out of space. That said, I always insist that every new Saturn owner also purchase the Pro Action Replay cartridge (or perhaps the latest edition of Pseudo Saturn, I still haven't tried that one), which solves all your game save issues.
Bullet Club
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Episode 342 - It's Left in Japan 14, but with a twist! This time we're looking at games with IPs that originated in the west that we didn't get to play because they were only released in Japan.
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StreetsofBeige
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Anyone have these beauties? My older bros had these. Never got into them, but baseball was definitely better.
Amazingly, there was a hockey one googling this, but we never had that one. Pics of hockey handheld looks like shit.
Amazingly, there was a hockey one googling this, but we never had that one. Pics of hockey handheld looks like shit.
xpresstuning
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I've been on and off the Sega Saturn for at least 5 years now, can't think of any other retro machine that has kept my interest like that. There's been a number of releases that have been carefully translated to english by the community which i'm interested in playing wen i have the time.
The more i'm familiar with it the more i believe that it's a remarkable machine with an alluring library that's like a contained time capsule of early 90s Japan.
The more i'm familiar with it the more i believe that it's a remarkable machine with an alluring library that's like a contained time capsule of early 90s Japan.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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You need to get an Oled. It makes every pixel art game look so gosh darned great. You are missing out.
Oh and I really need some viewtiful Joe back in my life! Those games were so cool. why did I sell my gamecube?
Naked Lunch
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If you still feel like using your original hardware - just go the optical drive route for the Gamecube.
My Gamecube laser died last year and I got the GC Loader. I take immaculate care of my consoles and collection but the laser still died.
Beyond just playing the games from the loader - you can do stuff like force 480p (progressive scan) on games that never had the feature - stuff like Killer 7.
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LavitzSlambert
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That feeling where you own several high value GCN games but never want to pet with them.
Hayabusa83
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I was looking through my basement the other day and started digging up the retro games and systems I stopped playing. Man at one point I picked up these systems for relatively cheap because there was games I wanted to play on them but now I am finding out they are actually worth something? I am seeing prices for consoles like the Jaguar and 3DO are astronomical on Ebay right now. I paid like 20 bucks for a Saturn in 1998 and there are people selling them for over a hundred bucks now? With so many good emulators right now I think I am going to cash out on this plastic junk. What do I need 24 N64 carts for when I have the entire N64 library on an Everdrive? Maybe I can donate my collection to the Immortal John Hancock for his humble museum.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If only gamers knew old stuff were highly sought after the internet got into full swing.
I had a shit load of Genesis games I dumped off to mom and pop game stores, video rental stores and flea market dudes for $20 each. MUSHA, Contra and Castelvania
Who the fuck would ever know Truxton would be worth decent coin? That was like the 3rd of 4th Genesis game I had. But then Arnold Palmer Golf I bought around the same time is worth nothing.
And worst of all, I kept all my game cases and manuals in perfect shape. The only games worth more would be sealed copies.
Bullet Club
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Want some vids to watch? Here's 10+ hours of retro goodness.
Mr Hyde
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Currently doing a new playthrough of Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain. Just arrived at Maleks Bastion. I love this game so much. Grew up with it on Playstation so it's a lot of nostalgia, but the game holds up quite well in both gameplay and story. It's very well written and has excellent voice acting, far above anything that wasn't released during this time (Resident Evil released the same year and you know how VA was in that).
I'm also gonna start playing through the story modes of Mortal Kombat 1-3. Played these so much backing the days, but fighting is a genre I can't stand since it went 3D so haven't been interested in MK for quite some time.
I'm also gonna start playing through the story modes of Mortal Kombat 1-3. Played these so much backing the days, but fighting is a genre I can't stand since it went 3D so haven't been interested in MK for quite some time.
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Skelterz
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If anybody hasn’t played some of the early JP release only Goemon games there’s a wealth of info on how to apply ISP translation patches to them these days, there fantastic games and it’s really easy to accomplish I had them running in HD up scaled through my SNES mini in English…it was glorious.
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The Lunch Legend
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
What?
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RAIDEN1
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The Sega Saturn was one of the key factors that Sega imploded as a hardware manufacturer....instead of building on the success of its predecessor, it set about dismantling it with poorly thought out architecture....even being Sega's most successful platform in Japan couldn't save it...
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Damien Crowley
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SF Kosmo
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Been working on modernizing and curating my rom collections with two retro projects together:
1) Pi4 Game Boy: GPi Case 2, with dock, based on a Raspberry Pi CM4, with 400GB of storage. 8bitdo SN30 Pro 2 in DMG colors as the main console mode controller. RecalBox 8.0 as the basis, because it handles controllers better and it's easier to go between handheld and docked.
This one is focused on classic pre-2000 consoles and handhelds. I am a believer that classic handheld games look like canned ass on a big screen no matter what you do, so having a handheld that plays them well is really awesome, plus it works in docked console mode for console stuff. Skipping computers as I don't intend to hook up a keyboard to this set up. Since I have 400GB of space I was able to fit basically full 1G1R sets for everything cart based, and full English Language (and select import) sets for the CD based systems (Sega CD, Turbo CD, 3DO, Amiga CD32, etc). I pared down the PS1 set to like 400 games and DC to like 200 but I still have space so I might start adding back.
Also as part of this project I have been making sure all my disc based games are in compressed formats (PBP for multi disc PS1 games, CHD for everything else). Makes it a lot easier to store a ton of games while still being able.to access and play them quickly.
2) Cleaning House and moving to Launch Box. I had been holding onto my standalone emulators and poorly organized ROM collection for decades now. And while I keep everything up to date, a lot of these systems don't even really have modern emus. So I purchased a new 4TB hard drive, and I am moving everything to LaunchBox, to keep it organized and unified. Including everything from the PiBoy, plus classic computers, systems unemulated on RecalBox, and more demanding systems that the Pi won't play, like Saturn, GameCube, PS2. For now, I am not going to be adding large collections of PS3, Wii U, and 360 games, just a handful of favorites. I may add an XBLA collection though.
Putting all this together had taken a ton of effort, but it really makes the difference in terms of being able to browse, find, and play my games, which is what it's all about. I've been playing my retro game collection in ways I haven't in years now. Right now I am at about 22,000 unique games (removed clones and regional variants), and I still have a few systems to add.
1) Pi4 Game Boy: GPi Case 2, with dock, based on a Raspberry Pi CM4, with 400GB of storage. 8bitdo SN30 Pro 2 in DMG colors as the main console mode controller. RecalBox 8.0 as the basis, because it handles controllers better and it's easier to go between handheld and docked.
This one is focused on classic pre-2000 consoles and handhelds. I am a believer that classic handheld games look like canned ass on a big screen no matter what you do, so having a handheld that plays them well is really awesome, plus it works in docked console mode for console stuff. Skipping computers as I don't intend to hook up a keyboard to this set up. Since I have 400GB of space I was able to fit basically full 1G1R sets for everything cart based, and full English Language (and select import) sets for the CD based systems (Sega CD, Turbo CD, 3DO, Amiga CD32, etc). I pared down the PS1 set to like 400 games and DC to like 200 but I still have space so I might start adding back.
Also as part of this project I have been making sure all my disc based games are in compressed formats (PBP for multi disc PS1 games, CHD for everything else). Makes it a lot easier to store a ton of games while still being able.to access and play them quickly.
2) Cleaning House and moving to Launch Box. I had been holding onto my standalone emulators and poorly organized ROM collection for decades now. And while I keep everything up to date, a lot of these systems don't even really have modern emus. So I purchased a new 4TB hard drive, and I am moving everything to LaunchBox, to keep it organized and unified. Including everything from the PiBoy, plus classic computers, systems unemulated on RecalBox, and more demanding systems that the Pi won't play, like Saturn, GameCube, PS2. For now, I am not going to be adding large collections of PS3, Wii U, and 360 games, just a handful of favorites. I may add an XBLA collection though.
Putting all this together had taken a ton of effort, but it really makes the difference in terms of being able to browse, find, and play my games, which is what it's all about. I've been playing my retro game collection in ways I haven't in years now. Right now I am at about 22,000 unique games (removed clones and regional variants), and I still have a few systems to add.
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InfiniteCombo
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Yup. And if you only save to the machine itself and your CR232 battery dies, you lose your saves. So the Pro Action Replay is the sensible choice for saving purposes (and of course the other major side benefits, playing imports and 1MB/4MB functionality).
Of course then you find out the cartridge port on the Saturn wasn't well designed either and has tons of trouble reading cartridges.(If you think the NES was bad for trying to read a cart the Saturn was definitely worse.)
InfiniteCombo
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YES... Yes it is.
I still have the same Saturn that I bought used in 1997. I'm a huge fan of the Saturn version of KoF '95, which of course has its own custom 1MB ROM cart (instead of the generic version used for later games)... and in order to play that game, you have to have your Action Replay cart in, wait for the SEGA logo/"licensed by SEGA" message to show up, then quickly take out the Action Replay cart and insert the KoF '95 cart in. Little did I know that every time I did that, I was further wrecking an already fragile cart slot
And before anybody shows up with "hur hur why did you do it like that?" (followed by their low-IQ NPC drooling), that's the way that the guy at the import video game store taught me how to play that game when I bought it as a kid. Maybe there was a more optimal way to do it, but if the guy at the import store didn't know, I sure as hell wouldn't know either.
Needless to say that in 2022, the generic Action Replay (which serves as memory card/import enabler/1MB/4MB) is in my Saturn's cart slot permanently, that shit ain't moving from there
Oh I can add on to this. Even just using the sega backup cart and nothing else this still happens. Admittedly I now have a Saturn with a region switch and was using the Sega Ram carts as well and it's still a problem. I'm not sure what the problem with that port is but like you say, it's so fragile and even if you didn't do what you did you would have had problems.YES... Yes it is.
I still have the same Saturn that I bought used in 1997. I'm a huge fan of the Saturn version of KoF '95, which of course has its own custom 1MB ROM cart (instead of the generic version used for later games)... and in order to play that game, you have to have your Action Replay cart in, wait for the SEGA logo/"licensed by SEGA" message to show up, then quickly take out the Action Replay cart and insert the KoF '95 cart in. Little did I know that every time I did that, I was further wrecking an already fragile cart slot
And before anybody shows up with "hur hur why did you do it like that?" (followed by their low-IQ NPC drooling), that's the way that the guy at the import video game store taught me how to play that game when I bought it as a kid. Maybe there was a more optimal way to do it, but if the guy at the import store didn't know, I sure as hell wouldn't know either.
Needless to say that in 2022, the generic Action Replay (which serves as memory card/import enabler/1MB/4MB) is in my Saturn's cart slot permanently, that shit ain't moving from there
InfiniteCombo
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I'm sure you've done more research than I have, so... Do you know if the pins/structure of that cart slot can be replaced? You know, kind of how like the NES 72-pin connector can be replaced?
Sorry now. I know this from have multiple different models of Saturns. (My current one is a White Japanese Saturn) I mean when I look at that slot I swear it looks like a PCI slot from a PC in the mid 90s so I think on the old boards (rec.games.video and rec.games.video.sega) some people mentioned trying to replace it but I don't think anyone there ever got anywhere with replacing their slots.
OmegaSupreme
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Oh, we do have a retro thread. Nice. I've been wanting to play Dune 2000 lately. One of my favorite games ever. Not so easy to do. I wish GOG would get those great games.
InfiniteCombo
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That's what I thought, thanks for confirming.
Because of that I have two Saturns -- the American black one I use for everything, and a Japanese gray one I bought on the cheap exclusively for KoF 95. If I didn't have a sentimental attachment to that game I would've tossed it into the garbage long ago
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It's been a long time but one of the things was one of the people on that board checked what metal they used for the pins. I think they said it was tin, not something you'd expect it'd be like copper. (Which was supposedly one of the big problems since I kind of remember them saying the pins would oxidize a little and that was a big problem.)That's what I thought, thanks for confirming.
Because of that I have two Saturns -- the American black one I use for everything, and a Japanese gray one I bought on the cheap exclusively for KoF 95. If I wasn't nostalgically attached to that game I would've tossed it into the garbage long ago
Damien Crowley
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This is more or less how my Retro-Games-gaming looks too.
The organizing, the testing, downloading of media.
My handheld of choice is the powkiddy 10 max with the custom (and awesome) RetroOz firmware beta and on PC I too run everything through Launchbox. And someday in the future (10 years from now, or so) I will be happy with the setup and will play old games... just play them and not mettle with the infos and looks of the frontend... Uuuuuh, there's a new update... here we go again
Bullet Club
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It looks pretty good. Nintendo should have stolen the game back, cleaned it up a bit and released it.
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LavitzSlambert
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Never want to part with them. Welp.