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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine

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FunkMiller

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The Russian chemical plant fire is a really big deal​

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It seems this is due to be the only chemical plant in Ruzzia, Some interesting parts:

The extreme damage, perhaps total destruction of this chemical plant is going to have a spectacular and massive impact on the #RussianArmy. Possibly grinding entire systems to a stop in weeks, perhaps even days.

Like many industrial sectors in #Russia, they tend to be centralized, massive + singular. This is generally a result of historic centralization of production under the Soviet model, and a fear of building massive high-cost infrastructure by nonRU firms #BASF #DuPont etc.

It took 18+ months of global fill-in sourcing for US firms to stabilize post Midland Floods and US Production still has not fully recovered. #RussiaSanctions will prevent them from doing the same. I am certain in every corner of #Russian industry is in full panic.

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Rather suggests the fire was indeed deliberate sabotage, if the facility was that important.

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Kraz

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The Russian chemical plant fire is a really big deal​

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mobile.twitter.com/Spoona...

It seems this is due to be the only chemical plant in Ruzzia, Some interesting parts:

The extreme damage, perhaps total destruction of this chemical plant is going to have a spectacular and massive impact on the #RussianArmy. Possibly grinding entire systems to a stop in weeks, perhaps even days.

Like many industrial sectors in #Russia, they tend to be centralized, massive + singular. This is generally a result of historic centralization of production under the Soviet model, and a fear of building massive high-cost infrastructure by nonRU firms #BASF #DuPont etc.

It took 18+ months of global fill-in sourcing for US firms to stabilize post Midland Floods and US Production still has not fully recovered. #RussiaSanctions will prevent them from doing the same. I am certain in every corner of #Russian industry is in full panic.

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FunkMiller

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Also, Regarding the new "Fire Accident"

Russian state media claims that "sabotage specialists" from the UK are helping the Ukrainian military​

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What? What? Are they possibly trying to claim that the country responsible for some of the most effective covert ops in history might be assisting the Ukrainians and Russian opposition in attempting to sabotage Putin's war machine?

For shame!
 

Gp1

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In the short term let's hope that Ukraine can plug that hole in Kherson and Izium.

Just saw a close up of Putin's photo with Shoigu. Take a look on how thin are his thighs and calves. The man is definitely sick.
 

Tams

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Oh shit... it's worse. Here's the article about Scholz's denial of transferring heavy weapons...


The money quote:



In bold, he actually called Russia a "superpower". Bruh. If anything, these past 50+ days have told us that's just not factual. And Russia's not going to nuke anyone because of an arms transfer. This war is hot, but never has happened in other hot wars via proxy. What an idiot.
Not just undermining Germany, the EU, Europe, and NATO, but the entire democractic world.

Germans need to take the traitor(s) out back.
 
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Tams

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Well, I guess the Ukrainians got tired of playing the Chernobaevka whack-a-mole... shame tho, those daily reports of "explosions near Kherson" were amusing. I think even Zelensky mentioned that airport will enter the annals of Ukrainese military history.
Russia were claiming a couple of days ago that they hit four Ukrainian command posts in one night. Let's hope they didn't or that the posts were well enough protected.
 

Dr.D00p

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What? What? Are they possibly trying to claim that the country responsible for some of the most effective covert ops in history might be assisting the Ukrainians and Russian opposition in attempting to sabotage Putin's war machine?

For shame!

Wouldn't be too cocky about it.

It all sounds like pre justification for bombs going off in the UK, planted by Russian agents.

It really wouldn't be too hard to slip people in to the country to do such stuff...you'd have to be very naive to think the Russians wouldn't have plans for it.
 

Tams

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Wouldn't be too cocky about it.

It all sounds like pre justification for bombs going off in the UK, planted by Russian agents.

It really wouldn't be too hard to slip people in to the country to do such stuff...you'd have to be very naive to think the Russians wouldn't have plans for it.
Russia are truly fucked if they do that.

It's one thing to incredibly irresponsibly try to assassinate Russian dissidents. To outright target UK citizens? Everything but nuclear weapons would be on the table. We'd see many strategic Russian assets suddenly have 'accidents'.

So they won't.
 

Dr.D00p

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Russia are truly fucked if they do that.

It's one thing to incredibly irresponsibly try to assassinate Russian dissidents. To outright target UK citizens? Everything but nuclear weapons would be on the table. We'd see many strategic Russian assets suddenly have 'accidents'.

So they won't.

I was thinking more about places where weapon systems are made rather than bombs going off in central London, terrorist style.

The factories that make the missiles & bombs we're sending to Ukraine, would be viewed as legitimate targets by the Russians.
 

Tams

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I was thinking more about places where weapon systems are made rather than bombs going off in central London, terrorist style.

The factories that make the missiles & bombs we're sending to Ukraine, would be viewed as legitimate targets by the Russians.
Lol, you think the UK would roll over and not retaliate in orders of magnitude greater just because they wouldn't be normal terrorist targets?

If anything, that would legitimise the UK attacking any Russian military assets anywhere in the world. There'd be sunk Russian warships in the Mediterranean before you knew it (and the UK already has an Astute class submarine there). Both sister ships to the Moskova in fact.

So the Russians won't do that.
 
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GymWolf

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What’s even better is that there’s zero chance the Russian forces will be told that the Ukrainians are going to have this kind of weaponry. The first they are going to know about it is when they get blown to fucking pieces, and that warms my heart no end.

I expect there will be a growing number of desertions among Russian troops once word eventually does get round about how we’re arming their enemy to the fucking teeth.
Why?

Does putrid fear that his men are gonna run away if they know that the ukranians have those weapons?

What kinda of fucked up tactic is that?
 

FunkMiller

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Why?

Does putrid fear that his men are gonna run away if they know that the ukranians have those weapons?

What kinda of fucked up tactic is that?

Absolutely. They were told they’d be welcomed as liberators. There’s not a chance in hell they’ll be told the truth about the kinds of weapons that are likely to be used against them. Russian soldiers have proved they are cowardly, pathetic scum, and they will run like little bitches once they realise what they’re up against.
 

FunkMiller

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I was thinking more about places where weapon systems are made rather than bombs going off in central London, terrorist style.

The factories that make the missiles & bombs we're sending to Ukraine, would be viewed as legitimate targets by the Russians.

I would hazard (I’d be willing to bet this is probably the truth) that Russia has been made well aware via back channels of what happens if they chose to launch an attack if that nature.
 

Wildebeest

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Rather suggests the fire was indeed deliberate sabotage, if the facility was that important.
Don't need to assume that at all. A lot of foreign specialists and local high skill workers have buggered off to less murderous countries. Now they have the Homer Simpsons left running things, and they are probably overworked. Expect their oil production to crash not because of sanctions, but because they don't know what they are doing.
 

Tams

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Brainwashed father is okay for his son to ended up being "statistic". This is Russia lads and gents.

Time for that lad to abscond to the West. Get himself an actual life.

No commitments at home or people who could really be used to hurt him.
 

GymWolf

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Absolutely. They were told they’d be welcomed as liberators. There’s not a chance in hell they’ll be told the truth about the kinds of weapons that are likely to be used against them. Russian soldiers have proved they are cowardly, pathetic scum, and they will run like little bitches once they realise what they’re up against.
I have a simple question, do russian soldiers have smartphones with internet access with them? I mean by now they surely know that no one think of them as liberators and that everyone and their mother is giving weapons to ukraine...

How clueless can they be?
 
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Nikodemos

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It's one out of two things: either the rumors about Moskva carrying nukes are true, and they're trying to recover them, or the rumors about that Kilo-class sub that sank due to an accident are true, and they're trying to salvage it.
 
I doubt very much NATO would launch a full scale war against Russia, over any sabotage efforts by the Russians.
No, but military blockades in the Baltic and Mediterrarian Sea.
Kaliningrad 100% cut off from Russia. St. Petersburg nothing going out anymore, aswell as Rostov.
 
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FunkMiller

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I have a simple question, do russian soldiers have smartphones with internet access with them? I mean by now they surely know that no one think of them as liberators and that everyone and their mother is giving weapons to ukraine...

How clueless can they be?

I very much doubt it. If the Russian citizenry in general is being denied internet access, because it would show them the truth, then I do t see a situation where the soldiers are allowed to see it either.
 

GymWolf

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I very much doubt it. If the Russian citizenry in general is being denied internet access, because it would show them the truth, then I do t see a situation where the soldiers are allowed to see it either.
I have equal pity and rage against these soldiers, probably many of them are not bad people and they are just forced to join the army while being brainwashed.
 

tommolb

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I was thinking more about places where weapon systems are made rather than bombs going off in central London, terrorist style.

The factories that make the missiles & bombs we're sending to Ukraine, would be viewed as legitimate targets by the Russians.
Would trigger NATO article 5 if Russia started targeting British infrastructure in that way.
 
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