Silent blades
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I’m enjoying it I’m also a little lost in what I should be doing but eh it’s pretty good.
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XXL
Member
MS campus
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Indont think Ive heard anyone complain about having a space adventure and being able to actually fly in space and land in any planet etc in No Mans Sky. Except do that and add better combat, and decent story and you have Starfield. The way they made it sound was this was supposed to be the deluxe version of No Mans Sky but No Mans Sky does better than what Starfield does for space exploration, and thats a last gen game
itsjustJEFF
Member
I've worked with ppl like this in the past... the same ppl who play mobile games all the time.
I had one co-worker who thought games were for kids and that it was weird that I watched someone play a video game LOL now she watches twitch all the time while working. She has a Switch and is looking at picking up a PC. She also now a regular at watching Val tournaments... things have changed.
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Xbox fanboys losing their minds on Twitter, it’s crazy out there. They can’t cope, declaring war on the world. The most persecuted group in generations they feel like.
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feynoob
Banned
Twitter is the place for insane asylum people.
And now with Elon money, it become unbearable with dumb takes.
Gudji
Member
Seems like I'm missing out.
Thirty7ven
Banned
It’s as basic as shortening the distance between planets, and adjusting flight speed. Or you know, make a star system instead of this stupid thing they went with.
All I read are excuses. Tell me why they had to make this such a menu driven game.
Everything has a reason, what a shock.
OuterLimits
Member
I don't get why they would be that upset anyway. 87 is a pretty damn good score. If I had an Xbox or a PC that wasn't a piece of poo, I would be excited to play this.
New Vegas was scored in the mid 80s and is one of my all time favorites.
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Lokaum D+
Member
what ppl are eating ? dont know, the only thing that i know for sure is that this game has a shit ton of loading screen since
adamsapple
dont leave these Starfield threads alone.
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Humdinger
Gold Member
Saw a few reviews. Of those, Luke Stephens' was the best (I assume it's been linked already). I was disappointed with the exploration -- or rather, lack of it. That's one of my favorite parts of a Bethesda RPG, the open-world exploration. Just wandering around, finding unique locations and surprises. Luke illustrated what exploration on the "thousand planets" looked like. It looked completely boring. Just walking through barren landscapes, devoid of anything interesting. Invisible walls, so really you're limited to "exploring" just a portion of the planet. There were one or two points of interest per planet, but these were often just cut-and-paste versions of the same location. He said that just in his first 20 hours, he saw dozens of examples of these POIs that were literal copy/pastes, 4 or 5 times over, of the exact same structure, down to the enemy placement, even the loot sometimes. Procedural generation + empty landscape = boredom. That's not my idea of interesting exploration at all.
Looks like the combat is decent, and some of the quests are fun. Otherwise, what I'm seeing just isn't appealing to me. I don't care to spend my time building a ship, any more than I wanted to craft buildings in Fallout 4. That's just not fun for me. The environments themselves seem dull. No beauty anywhere, barely any color.
I enjoyed most of Bethesda's mainline RPGs in the past, so I'll probably play this one eventually, but it definitely isn't something I'm going to rush out to play.
Looks like the combat is decent, and some of the quests are fun. Otherwise, what I'm seeing just isn't appealing to me. I don't care to spend my time building a ship, any more than I wanted to craft buildings in Fallout 4. That's just not fun for me. The environments themselves seem dull. No beauty anywhere, barely any color.
I enjoyed most of Bethesda's mainline RPGs in the past, so I'll probably play this one eventually, but it definitely isn't something I'm going to rush out to play.
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SportsFan581
Member
I'm not really complaining about it. I just don't think that a game with any level of realism to it is going to provide an experience that makes interplanetary flight "fun". Maybe because I'm kind of a space nerd myself and I have a lot of experience with rocket simulators, both serious (VBS) and lighthearted (KSP) my opinion is just jaded by the reality of it. Steering around a spaceship is only fun in certain situations, a dogfight, through an asteroid field, liftoff and landing, etc. Interplanetary is just a stage where you can't really even tell if you are moving or potentially even the direction you're moving in and throttle is not much more to you than a change in the depiction of the rocket on screen.
In a game like the rocket simulators that is the game, but they know to include the ability to super-speed through the boring parts. In an RPG, I think even the potentially fun parts would get stale so quickly because the motivation behind the action is different (you probably aren't trying out a new rocket design etc.), thus even takeoff and landing would become a job once the novelty was gone (part of why I find NMS as boring as I do). NMS isn't trying to be a traditional, dialog heavy, RPG game. What makes a good survival game might distract from an RPG and so on, if NMS is the game you want to play, play that. People that want to play Starfield will play it instead. Not really something to argue about.
The market/gamers in general ultimately decide the fate of all games. If it is well received by the players it will be a success.
Rien
Jelly Belly
Care to share some screenshots?
Thirty7ven
Banned
These people don’t care about good games, they care about games that change online discourse.
Clearly Starfield is a good game. But if you’ve been out there dunking on FFXVI scores and hyping Starfield every day, suddenly the lack of validation from the reviews can hurt you bad.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I had to do some cursory Starfield searches on twitter to see if this is actually happening to the extent you're saying and man y'all don't really need to make stuff up to try and get a point across
what ppl are eating ? dont know, the only thing that i know for sure is that this game has a shit ton of loading screen since
Interfectum
Member
Seems odd to single out any one group here. The other fanboys are going nuts on Twitter too with massive trolling. Both sides have more incentive to be as dramatic as possible because Musk gives them a fat check for it now.
Lokaum D+
Member
i can wait 5 more days, but since u are not playing i need to ask, do u mind to share ur account in order to me play it ?I had to do some cursory Starfield searches on twitter to see if this is actually happening to the extent you're saying and man y'all don't really need to make stuff up to try and get a point across
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Gudji
Member
Checks for trolling? Where do I sign up?
Don't do it you won't be able to handle the load.
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itsjustJEFF
Member
it's best to avoid videogame twitter at times like this... it's just toxic all around.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Pay for the premium upgrade like a good fomo or wait till the 6th for Todd's next great adventure.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
This thread:
Romulus
Member
Yes, but we're talking more about the flair of Fallout 4 quality, not Fallout 3.
Big difference
Lokaum D+
Member
if by "Todd's next great adventure" you mean "standard Bethesda expirience" i can wait even more and i dont think its so "great of an adventure" at 86, if it was TOTK 96, BG3 96 or even GOWR 94 i would agree with you, but at 86 is more like a "average" adventure.
Pay for the premium upgrade like a good fomo or wait till the 6th for Todd's next great adventure.
Lokaum D+
Member
Revolutionary
Member
That's because the spaceship HUD is 30fps for some reason lol. There's already a mod that fixes it though!The dialogue boxes and flying movement (esp the the icons) feel weird.
Even though I'm getting 80+, they look very slow and janky, kinda like 30 fps
Smooth Ship Reticle (120fps Smooth UI)
Fixes the spaceship targeting reticle looking choppy. Also includes an option to boost every UI element to 120fps!
www.nexusmods.com
feynoob
Banned
Who invited this troll here?what ppl are eating ? dont know, the only thing that i know for sure is that this game has a shit ton of loading screen since
b0uncyfr0
Member
Ha! I knew it.That's because the spaceship HUD is 30fps for some reason lol. There's already a mod that fixes it though!
Smooth Ship Reticle (120fps Smooth UI)
Fixes the spaceship targeting reticle looking choppy. Also includes an option to boost every UI element to 120fps!
Thanks.
feynoob
Banned
It will be 10s because of mods.
This game is just base Skyrim.
I can't wait for Star wars and Star Trek expansion.
SportsFan581
Member
Rien
Jelly Belly
That would be me
feynoob
Banned
You need to revoke his license.
fart town usa
Member
Lots of good info in that reply chain.
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feynoob
Banned
No city map sadly.
I hope Bethesda changes that soon.
feynoob
Banned
Hype.
It's what we Bethesda fans were afraid of. Creation engine isn't equipped for seamless exploration and it's showing it's limitations.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Bethesda being Bethesda. The awkward moment where mentioning NMS and Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, hell, even Starlink was considered trolling months ago, and this was supposed to blow them away "space exploration" wise, all last gen games... yeah... about that. F this engine.
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feynoob
Banned
Bethesda with new engine would have made an amazing game.
Now it's up to mods to make this game a generational game.
Lokaum D+
Member
a lot of developers do the same thing, as long these games are selling like crazy they won't even bother to change.
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havoc00
Member
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
According to Bethesda's managing director Ashley Cheng, Starfield's more barren planets came about from the studio needing to walk a fine line between enjoyment and authenticity. Not every planet "is supposed to be Disney World," Cheng said to the New York Times. The other reason for some of the desolate worlds that you'll encounter is that it helps keep expectations in check, emphasizes the vastness of space, and is designed to make you feel small against this backdrop of the infinite expanse of space.
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
Turns out that a big, empty planet is the perfect environment in which you can contemplate your insignificance in a cold and uncaring universe.
www.gamespot.com
feynoob
Banned
Except 343i. Those folks are on some weird shit.
wasted time on new engine, just for them to abandon it.
Lokaum D+
Member
we could say the same about CDPR Red engine, but at least they used that engine to the end.
FunkMiller
Member
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
According to Bethesda's managing director Ashley Cheng, Starfield's more barren planets came about from the studio needing to walk a fine line between enjoyment and authenticity. Not every planet "is supposed to be Disney World," Cheng said to the New York Times. The other reason for some of the desolate worlds that you'll encounter is that it helps keep expectations in check, emphasizes the vastness of space, and is designed to make you feel small against this backdrop of the infinite expanse of space.
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
Turns out that a big, empty planet is the perfect environment in which you can contemplate your insignificance in a cold and uncaring universe.
"Hey hey now! Let's not have too much fantasy in our space fantasy game!"
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It would not be an issue if these planets weren't so cumbersome to access.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Are you playing the game?
It's very good. If you like Bethesda games. I'm just making a coffee and seeing more of your constant posting about this game.
You can play it you know.